Importing Skylines to the US

Can you help me do a little research on this car? I'm finding that it may not be a GT-R. A GT-T perhaps, a rear-wheel drive version. I could be wrong of course.

Can't you guys do a license plate check?
 
Alright. Just wanted to see if I was just seeing things. :P

The thing about the GT-T is that it does not break any safety rules like the GT-R version does. If ya didn't know.
 
Oww. You guys across the pond just need to wait until the R32 and R34 are 25 years old, then you can import them without any hassle. :lol:

Yeah I forgot to add that tid bit, glad Dennisch did though.

If the cop doesn't feel like pulling you over, then yes. As far as I know, they crush any GT-Rs that are seized.

this is true

Not sure where in NY state but I seen it a car show in NYC about 5 or 6 years ago.
Here the front of it http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_m089wcEaRK1r8kxo3o1_1280.png

I found the pics online but it was the same car that I saw and it street legal.

no it's not
 

It's almost always overcast in NY. Save for the rain or the occasional sunny day. Then it's all wind. Miserable. XD

EDIT: According to your location, you live about an hour from me (46 miles). Pretty cool seeing another close NY guy to me besides Master__Shake_. You're just north of Rochester. I live about 6 miles from Darien Lake.
 
I was somewhat planning on waiting for the 25 year mark for a Skyline, so much easier.

Speaking of GTRs in 'Merica, an R34 Spec V here in Michigan.


R34 by E_Delaney, on Flickr

I'm not sure if you've ever spoke to the owner but he seems like a pretty cool dude. I only briefly talked to him in a parking lot the first time I saw the car and then he obliged me by revving the engine.
 
I'm not sure if you've ever spoke to the owner but he seems like a pretty cool dude. I only briefly talked to him in a parking lot the first time I saw the car and then he obliged me by revving the engine.

I actually don't even know what he looks like :lol:. It would be cool to talk to him though, I'm sure he has some good stories about it.
 
Found this story from a few years back when I was interested like the OP about getting a GT-R...though I was only 17 or 18. This was what made me give up back then. Also made me research this subject since I would like to collect these cars one day down the road.

Imported specialty cars are no rare thing in the U.S. Collectors all across the nation have been shipping in rare automotive gems for decades. Laws regarding foreign-market car shipped into the U.S. aren't taken lightly, though, as several Nissan Skyline owners are finding out.

Making a splash on the Web today is the plight of some Southern California-based previous-generation Nissan Skyline GT-R owners who've found out they're being targeted by Federal authorities for driving illegally registered vehicles. The cars were imported using loopholes in customs laws regarding automobiles and automobile parts and now that the Feds have caught wind of it, they're shutting it down quick.



According to some owners, at least two R34 series Skyline GT-Rs and one R32 have already been confiscated by officers. Many more cars, they speculate, will be receiving a similar fate.

As the story goes, many of the California Skyline GT-Rs have been imported by a company called Kaiso, who has for a number of years made a profitable business out of importing individual GT-R shells and drivetrains, presumably to be sold for parts.

Upon delivery of the components, the company reassembled the GT-Rs and several owners have registered the cars as "kit cars" under a California-specific Specially Constructed Vehicles (SPCNS) 4750.1 title. The title is fairly rare -- only 500 permits per calendar year are issued -- and grants a 'Specially Constructed Vehicle' a highly desired smog exemption. Legal details are many, but essentially, a "kit car" by law cannot resemble the vehicle its components are based on. Additionally, the engine used must be California-legal -- previous-generation Skyline GT-Rs were never sold in the U.S. and do not meet either EPA or DOT regulations. That's two strikes against the reassembled GT-Rs, and registering the cars may have been what brought them to the Feds' attention.

It seems the Feds have had enough with the shady importation and titling procedures and have begun their sweep on illegally titled, assembled, and publically-driven Skyline GT-Rs. According to the Feds, the vehicles have violated both EPA and Department of Transportation law as they have neither been crash-tested or smog-approved per Federal mandates and will therefore be confiscated. So far, the confiscations have all taken place in Southern California where the local branch of the U.S. District Attorney's office has been handling the case. If the Feds learn the whereabouts of any GT-Rs imported to other states, it's possible they could be confiscated as well.

If you happen to be wondering what the big deal is, pristine, low mileage Skylines GT-Rs can go for a pretty penny that's usually close to the six figure amount. Also, other states have been known to be more lax on their emissions regulations, so if you know of 10 Skyline GT-Rs running around in your town, you most likely live in one of those states.

Check back for more as the story unfolds.

How do you know?
I saw it drive on the street when it was leaving the show and there was cops there, so if it was illegal they would have stopped.

Not necessarily, I know becasue the U.S. DOJ (department of Justice) considers the ownership of such cars as contraband. I gave you all the evidence a couple pages back. Perhaps you should look it over again, the NHTSA, EPA and DOT do not recognize the R34 or R32 of any year or model as a legal car in the states. It can not be sent over grey market wise and the import of such cars has caused the collapse of import companies such as Moterex and Kaiso which are massive. Kaiso was the company that provided the Skyline driving by Brian in Fast and Furious (FF4 movie). After that movie was done it was confiscated by the DOJ. Hell I've seen people speed by the cops 10-20 over and not get pulled over, does that mean they weren't speeding?

Cops don't have a list of cars that are illegal grey market cars when they drive around. Just because they were there doesn't mean they know the car is illegal, so your conclusion isn't correct. You can not own such cars in the U.S. yet.

I know because of years of research into this subject and reading legislation that say it is illegal.
 
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It may not be a legal Road-going vehicle, but can they stop you from owning one as say... a race car? Just don't register it and never drive it on the road?
 
There was just a registered and inspected Skyline GT-T in my local craigslist a week or two ago for 50k. I wondered how that could happen but figured the owner knew someone that could sneak it through. Furthermore how would you get insurance on one of those.
 
Also, I believe that after all of the Drama was over, some Motorex owners were given Bond Releases, deeming their cars legal?
 
Can't you guys do a license plate check?

Not really...As in, it's technically illegal in some states, but sometimes tag bureaus are really stupid. There was an actress years ago that was stalked, the stalker went to the driver's license bureau and received a copy of another's registration for a few bucks, and that's all that psycho needed.

I say stupid because I lost my registration back in 1999; couldn't find it anywhere, so I headed over to the driver's license bureau with my wife. They asked "what's the tag number". I told them the tag, and three dollars and zero identification required, there's my registration slip with license plate, make, model, VIN, name, and address. I told them..."you know, I could have been anyone asking for that information", and showed them my ID as a form of goodwill. So it's a bit of a sore spot to me, which has likely changed in this day and age.

Most cops aren't stupid; many of them read car magazines. They know when something looks a little out of place (never saw one of these before?) The question is, do they really want to waste time for an impound vehicle, knowing that the said offender is likely to draw revenue-seeking attention once again? Might as well catch, (ticket,) and release. I suppose there's always one or two that think they're doing something heroic/covering their blue-clad behinds/by the book.
 
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Most cops aren't stupid; many of them read car magazines. They know when something looks a little out of place (never saw one of these before?) The question is, do they really want to waste time for an impound vehicle, knowing that the said offender is likely to draw revenue-seeking attention once again? Might as well catch, (ticket,) and release. I suppose there's always one or two that think they're doing something heroic/covering their blue-clad behinds/by the book.

Basically that's what I was saying. They don't really want to waste the time, especially if said driver is obeying all laws (beside driving a supposed contraband car). However, the cops aren't the ones that pull these cars over in mass. DOJ warrants for snatching and crushing the cars with federal authorties are what get the cars off the roads. Police have their own big fish to fry with out worrying about a few emission, non-crash test verified imports.
 
R32s and R33s can be imported here (Ontario, Canada) without a problem... since our only seriously restricting import rule is that the car must be 15+ years old. I've only heard of one instance where there was an R34 in Toronto... It was sent over in pieces, took a very long time to reassemble, and was registered as a kit car with a brand new VIN. (It was also later sold for ~$100,000...)
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There are always loop holes to infamous laws... For example tourists and visitors may import their own car, no matter its age and register it for use here without a problem.

You can also import a car if it's restricted for track use only.

Not that I support or promote finding loop holes in laws... just tossing out my two cents. ;)

That R34 was pretty on the outside but man was it ugly underneath. Literally shipped into pieces, frame rails and important structural bits hacked up and then welded back. I believe from what I heard it was two car's turned into one from those who saw it up close. $100,000 was when it first went on sale, then he reduced t to 75k and then it went to 50k I believe. I'd rather wait a few more years when they'll be legal for decent prices.
 
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I think there is an other loophole.

But that's mean joining the army. I think army personal can import their car from where they were stationed at and the car recieves a new Vin number or something.

Luckly for me, I am not in the US.
Hurray Skyline :D

Though it is really sad the Us Skylines were crushed. There are already not so many of them running around (well maybe except the R32), thus reducing the number futher :(

I'm sorry but this notion that Nissan Skylines are some type of Godzilla in the JDM car world is quite false. Skylines are quite the overweight girl

Well the name Godzilla is already false. It was given by a journo in Australia and since stuck with it. But then they are also the only one carrying that name tag,
Overweight?
for what a car from the 80's? yes, But they are cars from the 90's so the 1500kg tag is quite right.
Also the complex 4*4 adds quite some weight but with it the Skyline decimates a lot of competitors.

And talking JDM queens, there are only a few noteworthy and it is mostly related to what engine it has in (Rb's or JZ beeing definitely at the top for the 90's)
 
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I think there is an other loophole.

But that's mean joining the army. I think army personal can import their car from where they were stationed at and the car recieves a new Vin number or something.

Luckly for me, I am not in the US.
Hurray Skyline :D

Though it is really sad the Us Skylines were crushed. There are already not so many of them running around (well maybe except the R32), thus reducing the number futher :(

Might be, I'm not in the U.S. military yet till this June so couldn't tell you. This I don't know about at all and if you could find further info that would help us all learn more about this.
 
^I read that somewhere, sometime,... ;) I look if i find that article again, otherwise shoot the question to biggamehit, he is stationed in Japan, so he should know if it's possible or not.
 
I see a decent amount of imported Skylines where I live, Minnesota. I know of 4 R33s, 4 R32s, and 1 R34, and all but one of the 32s are registered, in Minnesota. The owner of one of the 33s is on his fourth Skyline right now. I don't know how they did it, but they are here.
 
The thing people are confusing is that just because it is deemed illegal doesn't mean it can't be done. I know there are several Skylines in the states, where I live there is right hand drive Civic type r. California is known to have a host of different japanese cars with the occasional but highly rare S15 Silvia.

Being state registered is not enough to save you from having your car taken away of local federal agencies see fit. Also most of the car that have been taken were done so in California, it hasn't spread too much from there.
 
Personally if I imported and they siezed my vehicle, I would demand the purchase me a new one or refund me.
 
Not really...As in, it's technically illegal in some states, but sometimes tag bureaus are really stupid. There was an actress years ago that was stalked, the stalker went to the driver's license bureau and received a copy of another's registration for a few bucks, and that's all that psycho needed.

I say stupid because I lost my registration back in 1999; couldn't find it anywhere, so I headed over to the driver's license bureau with my wife. They asked "what's the tag number". I told them the tag, and three dollars and zero identification required, there's my registration slip with license plate, make, model, VIN, name, and address. I told them..."you know, I could have been anyone asking for that information", and showed them my ID as a form of goodwill. So it's a bit of a sore spot to me, which has likely changed in this day and age.

Most cops aren't stupid; many of them read car magazines. They know when something looks a little out of place (never saw one of these before?) The question is, do they really want to waste time for an impound vehicle, knowing that the said offender is likely to draw revenue-seeking attention once again? Might as well catch, (ticket,) and release. I suppose there's always one or two that think they're doing something heroic/covering their blue-clad behinds/by the book.

Ah. Here in the Netherlands it works a bit different:

You can check the plate, and all you get is car information, nothing about the owner. Look at this, the RDW site, the Dutch registration office.

RDW and then type this into the yellow block: 40VRF6 , my car.
 
Ah. Here in the Netherlands it works a bit different:

You can check the plate, and all you get is car information, nothing about the owner. Look at this, the RDW site, the Dutch registration office.

RDW and then type this into the yellow block: 40VRF6 , my car.

Thanks a lot! :lol: Found out my APK is due in 8 days.. totally forgot about that.
 
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