Imports VS Domestics (reliabilty wise)

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This site, will tell you want manufactors are good in reliabilty and whats not. I do think that the way you treat your car has alot to do with its reliability but these are the result from many tests.

heres the site. Tell me what you guys think.


Import Vs Domestic (reliability wise)
 
Fixed the link for you. ;) (You had the url and description flipped, so it wasn't clickable)
 
Ok, thanks sage. Im not making this one of those "Import vs Domestic" comparison. Im just trying to let you guys see the reliabiltys of alot of different manufactors.
 
In the UK the best (Mazda) and worst (Alfa Romeo) cars for reliability are both imports... The ratings were calculated based on frequency of car failure (Mazda topped the list) against average cost of repair (Mazda again topped the list) according to "What Car?" magazine.

Classically, our customer satisfaction surveys usually fill out their top ten with Mazda, Honda, Subaru, Toyota (including Lexus variants) and the odd Jaguar. Last are always FIAT, Alfa Romeo, Land Rover and Rover cars.



Funnily, the most reliable car in Germany is the Ford Focus.
 
AOL's such BS, don't listen to that silly article.

Then again maybe I'm just very anti-AOL because the AOL spam controls on my account have been sending valid E-mail from GTP, other forums, and people I know, directly to the spam folder without letting me know, so AOL's been screwing me on important E-mails. Brilliant. If I didn't just check my spam folder I wouldn't have known that my important E-mail was going bye-bye.

And reading that article, it's so bland. They say what brands they have had problems with, but they don't list the cars. They said that they had problems with a Mazda, but don't say that it was a Fordified Mazda(I'm 100% sure it was either the Mazda 6, B-series, or Tribute, all have Ford engines and many other parts. But they don't say that in the article, so it appears that Mazda as a whole isn't reliable even though the Miata, Protege, and MPV are very good and reliable cars.

Every car company has bad cars, but they also(hopefully) have some good ones, but since AOL doesn't say what cars were tested from each company, how are we supposed to know if they drove a good car from the company, or a bad one? It's all just generalized based on 1 car, so you can't go by the info in the article.
 
how lame is it to brag about how your favorite area of cars happen to be more reliable than another areas cars.

oh yea? well bmws are the BEST cockaroach. argue about something that matters.

what what, who has the most fuel efficient? hahahha, lame.
 
Originally posted by MazKid
AOL's such BS, don't listen to that silly article.

Then again maybe I'm just very anti-AOL because the AOL spam controls on my account have been sending valid E-mail from GTP, other forums, and people I know, directly to the spam folder without letting me know, so AOL's been screwing me on important E-mails. Brilliant. If I didn't just check my spam folder I wouldn't have known that my important E-mail was going bye-bye.

And reading that article, it's so bland. They say what brands they have had problems with, but they don't list the cars. They said that they had problems with a Mazda, but don't say that it was a Fordified Mazda(I'm 100% sure it was either the Mazda 6, B-series, or Tribute, all have Ford engines and many other parts. But they don't say that in the article, so it appears that Mazda as a whole isn't reliable even though the Miata, Protege, and MPV are very good and reliable cars.

Every car company has bad cars, but they also(hopefully) have some good ones, but since AOL doesn't say what cars were tested from each company, how are we supposed to know if they drove a good car from the company, or a bad one? It's all just generalized based on 1 car, so you can't go by the info in the article.
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But its true though Japanese companies (excluding Mazda and mitsubisi) have superior reliability. Check JD Power and Consumer reports. American Cars were poor some time ago, but they are getting much better especially Buick. The European car manufactuers are weird as at the beginning of the 90s they had the best reliability, and now they are at the bottom.
 
Originally posted by advanR
how lame is it to brag about how your favorite area of cars happen to be more reliable than another areas cars.

oh yea? well bmws are the BEST cockaroach. argue about something that matters.

what what, who has the most fuel efficient? hahahha, lame.
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Stop being a pest, a brat who could care less about the topic at hand.

being Fuel effiecent helps the enviorment and our way of life.

and what do mean by cockroach? you cant spell it right
 
Originally posted by advanR
what what, who has the most fuel efficient? hahahha, lame.
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Pay the equivalent of $6.50 for a gallon of gas, then tell me how lame it is.

Originally posted by askia47
But its true though Japanese companies (excluding Mazda and mitsubisi) have superior reliability
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Like I said, in the What Car? survey, not only were Mazda top in average cost of repair (ie theirs was on average the lowest cost to repair), but also top in number of vehicle failures (as in least often cars to break down). This test encompassed ALL models across ALL ages. However, it was based on the English market.
 
Originally posted by Famine
Pay the equivalent of $6.50 for a gallon of gas, then tell me how lame it is.



Like I said, in the What Car? survey, not only were Mazda top in average cost of repair (ie theirs was on average the lowest cost to repair), but also top in number of vehicle failures (as in least often cars to break down). This test encompassed ALL models across ALL ages. However, it was based on the English market.
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In America, The mazda B-series pick up and the Mazda Tribute are bad offenders, mostly because they use ford engines.
 
Aaaah - we don't get them.

We do have the Mazda-engined Ford Probe (and sister engined MX-6 and MX-3 (kind of)) though - but no Ford-engined Mazdas...

But again, European Fords are near the top. The Ford Focus is near bulletproof and was the top car in Germany's 3rd-year tests.
 
I know 1 manufacturer that is totally unreliable:
FORD
They skimp on too many parts
owned:
1975 F-250 -Problem: Blown Engine
1982 Fairmont -Problem: Blown Head gasket
1986 Aerostar -Problem: Blown Head gasket
1992 Mercury Sable- Problem- Blown Head gasket

I blew the head gasket on my sable three times within a year, taking it to the dealership to have it replaced.
The third time i replaced it myself, I found out the reason it kept happening was that the heads were warped

If i could see they were warped, you'd think the ford dealership would know too.

I cant speak for anything newer though, maybe ford has changed
 
Originally posted by askia47
In America, The mazda B-series pick up and the Mazda Tribute are bad offenders, mostly because they use ford engines.
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I just stated that in my post, read it again buddy.
 
Reliabilty wise all auto will perform about the same if taken care of. I mean my truck will last just as long as say a Civic if I do proper maintanice and other things. And as long as you don't drive the auto hard it should last a long time, but if you want something reliable and runs forever buy a deisle truck or car.
 
Originally posted by fc3s
I know 1 manufacturer that is totally unreliable:
FORD
They skimp on too many parts
owned:
1975 F-250 -Problem: Blown Engine
1982 Fairmont -Problem: Blown Head gasket
1986 Aerostar -Problem: Blown Head gasket
1992 Mercury Sable- Problem- Blown Head gasket

I blew the head gasket on my sable three times within a year, taking it to the dealership to have it replaced.
The third time i replaced it myself, I found out the reason it kept happening was that the heads were warped

If i could see they were warped, you'd think the ford dealership would know too.

I cant speak for anything newer though, maybe ford has changed
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My dad's '92 Ford Explorer has had only a few minor problems since he's owned it, being a problem with bad axles causing vibrations at around 100kph, and a poor windshield (rain water streaks, and it's not the wiper blades). From what I've seen, Fords are reliable vehicles, especially the Focus. But they still are behind the Japanese in reliability. No wonder the Civic has been the most popular vehicle in Canada for god only knows how many years.
 
My cousin who had a 2003 Ford Explorer had it for 3 months and the Air conditioner was broken some how. Dont know all the detail but he was mad. Its fix now i think but yeah beside that my other cousin with ford explorers seem to say they are pretty reliable cars beside a few problems.
 
There will always be problems with new cars, thats why there are warrenties. But I bet you I could blow everything in a Civic just as fast as a Focus. It's all about how you drive or abuse it.
 
you never know, skater punks around campus drive the hell outta there mini vans.
 
Originally posted by BlazinXtreme
There will always be problems with new cars, thats why there are warrenties. But I bet you I could blow everything in a Civic just as fast as a Focus. It's all about how you drive or abuse it.
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That's true for the most part.

Some manufacturers will build their vehicle(s) to stricter tollerances. Meaning, they will take more abuse.
 
this is why i come to gtp. everyone has their own reasons. am i supposed to take this forum seriously? this is what i do, ignore my posts if i am that irritating.

monster7, thanks for noticing. i just watched carlitos way last night. pacinos arrogant attitude when he gets irritated in these two movies is just great.
 
Reliability also sometimes takes a back seat to service revenue. Have you ever noticed that the American car companies sometimes advertise thier service centers? There's a lot of money to be made in service, and sadly most companies have little tricks to get you into the shop.

The only case I know about with Mazda is on 1st generation MPVs(1989-1997), Mazda made the gauge clusters so that at 80,000 miles the check engine light would come on, which would force the owners to come into the shop(unless they just ignored it, but most came in because people think that the car is undriveable with the light on) and pay labor to have the gauge cluster taken out, 1 screw moved from 1 hole to another(on the back of the cluster), and then put back in, and the light wouldn't be on anymore. Without that, and excluding schedualed service, those MPVs were so reliable that problems were few and far between, and many could last past 200,000 miles just with normal tune-ups and maintenence. Unfortunately, the only new Mazdas that can do that are the going-away Protege and Miata(but very few people drive a Miata that much), and possibly the MPV. Again, most of the reliability issues in Mazdas are caused directly from use of Ford parts. When the Ford Tribute came out, some of them had severe engine issues within several thousand miles on the car, and a few that actually self-destructed with as few as 80 miles on them(from what I remember, the lifters weren't properly seated at the Ford plant, causing them to come apart while the car was running, and it would send bits through the engine eventually causing complete failure. How fun!). So what might look like crappy engineering, really is crappy engineering, but that's just to make money for the company, and agreeably the US companies do it more than anyone else.
 
My dad had a miata that lasted him into the 100k range, it may have gone longer, he sold it for a Z3 before it gave out on him.
 

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