Imports

[Keef]

Yeah, can't be legal surely? But how is it importing a car into the US that has been rego'd in Canada on their 15 y/o rule?

Old ones are registerable somehow. The original company that imported them legally did crash tests on them and everything. They went out of business and some other company stepped in selling them without engines as "kit" cars, but for some reason the government has been impounding them. Maybe it's only the later models, I don't remember.

 

[Boffin]

What the hell was that?! I find your comment a bit offensive buddy! You better stop there.

Who talked about V-TEC engines? There are at least 10 engines that could hold 1000HP+ (of corse Honda engines are there too)!
Your statement is pointless when saying a 4 cylinder cant hold much power.

For the record i sure dont care about you or your V8s or V6s either buddy!

Ok, erm...buddy.

I never said anything about not being able to make the amount of HP - I said that they will not last as long as a bigger engine making the same power. The subject is longevity and reliability, not power output.
Take an SR20DET with 600hp, and a 2JZ with 600hp, and, for fun, and LS7 with 600hp, run them round, and I bet you the first to go is the SR20, because it is making more power per cylinder and displacement, and is overall more highly strung. (and I honesly don't know how bulletproof the LS7 is, so I couldn't tell you which one would go next )

Probably because you missed that point was the reason you got hepped up by me mentioning a V-TEC, which I mentiond because they are quite long lasting engines, and the fact I think you are involved with one - hence I was stopping an inevitable point I thought you were going to make.

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[TsukubaTrueno]

CR Kai <3

 

[Cale]

 

[Keef]

CR Kai <3

Poor car looks like it was ravaged by that tsunami. MOAR.

 

[TsukubaTrueno]

I wish I had more.

 

[Azuremen]

What the hell was that?! I find your comment a bit offensive buddy! You better stop there.

Who talked about V-TEC engines? There are at least 10 engines that could hold 1000HP+ (of corse Honda engines are there too)!
Your statement is pointless when saying a 4 cylinder cant hold much power.

For the record i sure dont care about you or your V8s or V6s either buddy!

You must be one of the most poorly informed Honda fanbois on this board in a while.

First, tell me a single Honda motor that can make 1000 HP in a remotely reliable setup... then find me a transmission made by them that will hold the power.

Pure physics will tell you that having greater internal stresses on a motor (revolution speed, compression, mass of reciprocating parts, etc) will increase the rate parts fail. Like someone mentioned, a LS7 will out last an SR20DE for years if they both make 600 hp.

And having owned a B20Vtec EG6, I can tell you I'd take my M3 over that any day of the week... more reliable, more power, more comfort, and better fuel economy.

So just put a sock in your blind fanboyish nature already, okay?

 

[CodeRedR51]

EPIC Subaru's on this page.

 

[tfujiwara]

I freakin' like that car a lot. Though, I love it with the CR Kai's.

While looking through their blogs I noticed that they like to trade their wheels arond themselves. Pretty cool. 👍

Wow, I was actually there that day at that event. Very nice car up close. Nice find:tup:

 

[Cano]

(and I honesly don't know how bulletproof the LS7 is, so I couldn't tell you which one would go next )

I just got testimony of how bulletproof a well-built LS7 is. A friend of mine just swapped a 680+hp one into his 99 Camaro. The damned guy tracks the car, and he shifts it at 7,500. Now, all of this may not sound too far away until you realize that he is running mexican Pemex pump gas. Believe me, really, when Itell you that a 680 hp engine revving to 7,500 on mexican pump gas IS absolutely undestructible.

and just so my post wont be about V8 fanboyism...

eh, no, wait, I'm not doing it right...

 

[CodeRedR51]

That guy better keep that GT-R in the garage before the Feds come looking for it.

A friend here in town has an R32 GT-R that just put down 530hp to the wheels. Car is registered, plated and insured. It's his daily driver.

 

[Horde_R35]

You must be one of the most poorly informed Honda fanbois on this board in a while.

First, tell me a single Honda motor that can make 1000 HP in a remotely reliable setup... then find me a transmission made by them that will hold the power.

Pure physics will tell you that having greater internal stresses on a motor (revolution speed, compression, mass of reciprocating parts, etc) will increase the rate parts fail. Like someone mentioned, a LS7 will out last an SR20DE for years if they both make 600 hp.

And having owned a B20Vtec EG6, I can tell you I'd take my M3 over that any day of the week... more reliable, more power, more comfort, and better fuel economy.

So just put a sock in your blind fanboyish nature already, okay?

Ill ask you this: Will you go by yourself or do i tell you to go?? Any road or any track! How does that sound M3 fanboy? You are one the guys i would really would like to challenge on the road... to bad for me, lucky for you.


And you could choose your M3 for all the reasons you want, but i would still desapear from you !



EDIT: Your B20 or your M3, the same to me...

 

[Azuremen]

Ill ask you this: Will you go by yourself or do i tell you to go??

Umm, tell me to go where? And find me a motor please, I want to see you defend your claims to some degree.

 

[eiriksmil]

I guess worked Civic VTECs are like other small Japanese cars I've owned and driven, bags of fun but for a limited amount of time..

 

[Horde_R35]

Umm, tell me to go where? And find me a motor please, I want to see you defend your claims to some degree.

Reliable engine with 1000HP?? And you talk about degrees!
I didnt adress you with offensive claims, you on the other hand did. So you stay away from a discution you werent invited!


EDIT: Nibbers the part i didnt like was: "I don't care about you..."! "...and your V-TEC antics" and my engine is from 2003...

 

[Azuremen]

Ill ask you this: Will you go by yourself or do i tell you to go?? Any road or any track! How does that sound M3 fanboy? You are one the guys i would really would like to challenge on the road... to bad for me, lucky for you.


And you could choose your M3 for all the reasons you want, but i would still desapear from you !

In the future, you may want to finish your thoughts before you post.

Second, I'm not so much a fanboy as someone that has experience. You can claim whatever you'd like, given I have no clue what you drive and so on. And we can e-thug it up, etc. Or you could just answer my relatively simple question from earlier instead of making this into "I can TAKE YOU AT A RACE TRACK WITHOUT ANY KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT YOU DRIVE" type of idiocy.

I guess worked Civic VTECs are like other small Japanese cars I've owned and driven, bags of fun but for a limited amount of time..

Basically. My EG6 was fun but Honda can't make bullet proof FWD trannys to save itself. Plus having some form of creature comforts makes traveling to events nicer and less tiresome, thus leaving you more alert for the actual racing.

Reliable engine with 1000HP?? And you talk about degrees!


I didnt adress you with offensive claims, you on the other hand did. So you stay away from a discution you werent invited!

For future reference, it is a public forum. I can get involved in any discussion I feel like. Also, by degree, I meant with some evidence what so ever, not an academic degree.

 

[Horde_R35]

In the future, you may want to finish your thoughts before you post.

Ill leave that to your emagination.

Second, I'm not so much a fanboy as someone that has experience. You can claim whatever you'd like, given I have no clue what you drive and so on. And we can e-thug it up, etc. Or you could just answer my relatively simple question from earlier instead of making this into "I can TAKE YOU AT A RACE TRACK WITHOUT ANY KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT YOU DRIVE" type of idiocy.

I dont care what you drive, i would still beat your road M3 any day or night of the week! My EG6 is build for the track. Ive beaten porches on the track, so your car wasnt going to be a race at all! In second, your the idiot for adressing me in that way and for ofending me twice.

EDIT: There is no reliable 1000HP "tuned" engine!

 

[Perfect Balance]

porches

Wat.

 

[Azuremen]

Ill leave that to your emagination.

A POS Honda built for track duty? That is great.

Wait... were you the guy that claimed you did 150 MPH in your Civic?

I dont care what you drive, i would still beat your road M3 any day or night of the week! My EG6 is build for the track. Ive beaten porches on the track, so your car wasnt going to be a race at all! In second, your the idiot for adressing me in that way and for ofending me twice.

Oh my, I offended your delicate senses through the internet a whole two times. Perhaps you should take things a tad less personally, as I simply wanted you to support some of your claims (namely Honda motors making 1000HP with the ease of a 2JZ of LS7) and you decided it came down to comparing my car to yours.

My tendency to address you in such away is the direct result of your posting nature, and has developed over time and your rather irrational dismissive nature towards anything not built in JDM land followed by thinking FWD + 4 Cylinders is the Holy Grail of automotive design. If you'd present yourself with a tad less bias, and maybe use less aggressive English (and consider spelling/grammar) these encounters maybe less of an issue.

EDIT: There is no reliable 1000HP "tuned" engine!

There are 1000HP engines that are more reliable than others. A 1000 HP LS7 is going to last longer than a 1000HP SR20DET. Further, the power will be more usable. Comparing an F20 from an S2000 to the S50 in my M3, I have power below 5000 RPMs and oddly enough, get the same gas mileage, same WHP, and more torque to the ground.

 

[Horde_R35]

porsches!


And i didnt clame i did 150MPH, was something like 170MPH! I told some where in this forum before, that for those who dont believe a word i can show a video that prove otherwise. Doesnt have my car in it, but youll have an ideia how we in Portugal do things around here! A few saw them and said they never seen anything like it, or so hardcore. My car was build for the track, but we can change things even after that, like to race on the streets! Thats is because the only thing my car doesnt have is a rollbar. So when track days only have place once a month (sometimes more), i can change the car the way i want or feel like it.


EDIT: again the grammar issue! Im not english! Errors will show once in a while.

 

[slidesquad#1]

And here I was, thinking gtp was slowly but surely moving away from fanboi wankery...

 

[Azuremen]

And here I was, thinking gtp was slowly but surely moving away from fanboi wankery...

I know Apparently HondaTecha is a disease on the Internets still. That and the DubVortex of intelligence

 

[tfujiwara]

where the awesome cars at??

 

[Azuremen]

-Internet said I didn't post so I hit submit and then it gave me two for one-

 

[Horde_R35]

I know Apparently HondaTecha is a disease on the Internets still. That and the DubVortex of intelligence

You dont seem to have it with those kind of statements. I dont care much about engines or this discussion, but i care when inteligent persons like yourself, to state what they think or feel, the first thing is to offend a second person in a public forum. Thats is the way you actually think and act, there for, you really are inteligent! Lets stop here and get back on topic.


EDIT: so much that you post the same thing 8 minutes after...

 

[Azuremen]

You dont seem to have it with those kind of statements. I dont care much about engines or this discussion, but i care when inteligent persons like yourself, to state what they think or feel, the first thing is to offend a second person in a public forum. Thats is the way you actually think and act, there for, you really are inteligent!

You were the first to take offense to someone stating the obvious. Then you basically tried to get in an extra jab with your comment about "I'll have none of your silly V6 and V8s.

And if you don't care much about the discussion, why bother posting? Or for that matter, being offended? One must care in order for them to take offense...

 

[Boffin]

I just got testimony of how bulletproof a well-built LS7 is. A friend of mine just swapped a 680+hp one into his 99 Camaro. The damned guy tracks the car, and he shifts it at 7,500. Now, all of this may not sound too far away until you realize that he is running mexican Pemex pump gas. Believe me, really, when Itell you that a 680 hp engine revving to 7,500 on mexican pump gas IS absolutely undestructible.

Ill ask you this: Will you go by yourself or do i tell you to go?? Any road or any track! How does that sound M3 fanboy? You are one the guys i would really would like to challenge on the road... to bad for me, lucky for you.


And you could choose your M3 for all the reasons you want, but i would still desapear from you !



EDIT: Your B20 or your M3, the same to me...

Whoawhoawhoawhoa - as I said before, its not a matter of power output or how fast the thing goes, it's about how long the engine lasts.

EDIT: Nibbers the part i didnt like was: "I don't care about you..."! "...and your V-TEC antics" and my engine is from 2003...

You were making a claim that I didn't know what I was talking about. Seeing as this sounds/looks like 4 pot fanboi comments (not saying you are one), I reacted as I did.

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[Horde_R35]

A friend of mine blew up two (stock) M3 E46 engines, and i blew one! Ill take my tuned K20 anyway... if thats ok!

Im a fanboi, but you guys arent, when attacking Honda and 4 cilinder engines... hmmm ok! I see...

You keep you own opinions and ill keep mine.





Back on topic:

 

[Boffin]

No - the matter was with SR20DETs. I first brought the V-TEC into the conversation because thats where I would have guessed you based your opinions from - hence why I said that we were talking about the SR20, not a V-TEC.

I'll be the first to admit that I'd put my money on the V-TEC pumping 500hp to outlast an SR20DETT pumping the same.

 

[Azuremen]

A friend of mine blew up two M3 E46 engines, and i blew one! Ill take my tuned K20 anyway... if thats ok!

Im a fanboi, but you guys arent, when attacking Honda and 4 cilinder engines... hmmm ok! I see...

Wow, and people blow up every kind of motor. Fred here as blown up his fair share of everything, I've blown up a few Toyota engines, some Honda parts, and so on. Thing break, good job.

You appear to be a fanboy because the only cars you seem to think worth owning are Hondas. Or at least JDM cars, which you have in numerous threads claimed to be the best cars in the world time and time again. Then you repeatedly mock anything besides a 4 cylinder engine, designed in Europe or America, and so on.

How do you think we are going to perceive you?