Impossible On Pro Physics List

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It would be nice if we had a list of the challenges that are impossible on pro physics.

1. A-3 BMW M3 @ Eiger reverse: Gold Impossible. Rumors of Silver
2. B-5 Evo @ Eiger: Silver Impossible?

Please list others you think are impossible.

Edit: There was a thread in the past but it's out of date.
 
so you meen impossible for you,or impossible for everyone???
had no problems with the A-3....its difficult,but absolutely NOT impossible...
spyrrari.
 
spyrrari
so you meen impossible for you,or impossible for everyone???
had no problems with the A-3....its difficult,but absolutely NOT impossible...
spyrrari.
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On Pro physics, I'd wager that it IS impossible.

My best, on S2 tyres (yep, practice in Time Trial) was 1:15.7 ish (I was second :D ).

The record was 1:14.888 ( I say was, this is before the update, so they're gone now, haven't looked since)

Anyway, that's on S2 tyres, so getting Gold on A-3, on S1 tyres? I'd be astounded (unless they've changed the boundaries of course?).
 
i'd like to second the opinion that it is very very very hard to get gold on these events...the most i've been able to get is silver, drafting as many cars as possible and driving a perfect line. Gold requires a second more on top of that...how gold is possible is beyond me..
 
MowTin
Edit: There was a thread in the past but it's out of date.
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Unless it's locked, threads don't have a use by date, and can be brought back.

If the thread is talking about the same subject you want to discuss, bring it back. Do not create another one.
 
I think a better Question would be "Gold WITHOUT any Quick-Tuning AND WITHOUT any AIDS! ON PRO"

There are several that are impossible to even get close to 1st w/o any kind of "Quick Tunning".
 
MasterDriver
I think a better Question would be "Gold WITHOUT any Quick-Tuning AND WITHOUT any AIDS! ON PRO"

There are several that are impossible to even get close to 1st w/o any kind of "Quick Tunning".
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Is it possible that this is one of the reasons why quicktune is available? I just can't see why PD would make it impossible to beat certain races on Pro physics. I am still playing through B class as of now so I haven't gotten to those really hard A and S class races yet. I urge anyone who claims that they can beat one of these impossible races on Pro physics to please upload a video and show us what it took to accomplish this.
 
Havok_
i'd like to second the opinion that it is very very very hard to get gold on these events...the most i've been able to get is silver, drafting as many cars as possible and driving a perfect line. Gold requires a second more on top of that...how gold is possible is beyond me..
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Do you have a video? I'm no where near silver. Do you drift those winding roads? I've been trying to drift a little rally style to try to improve my time on the curves.

I must say it's really fun but I would really love it more if I thought gold were possible.

Err...and the F40 challenge gold is possible?
 
shawtyoner
Is it possible that this is one of the reasons why quicktune is available? I just can't see why PD would make it impossible to beat certain races on Pro physics. I am still playing through B class as of now so I haven't gotten to those really hard A and S class races yet. I urge anyone who claims that they can beat one of these impossible races on Pro physics to please upload a video and show us what it took to accomplish this.
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I would say the most likely reason is because PD assumes that the majority of drivers race on standard physics and modeled the difficulty of the game around that. Rather than having different difficulty levels for when you use pro physics and when you use standard physics.
 
J-PaP
I would say the most likely reason is because PD assumes that the majority of drivers race on standard physics and modeled the difficulty of the game around that. Rather than having different difficulty levels for when you use pro physics and when you use standard physics.
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I think for the Eiger challenges if people can get silver then scrubbing off that other second is possible by someone truly great--the chosen one :dopey:.
 
I think all this talk about some of the races being impossible is a little premature. It was about 3 years roughly from the time GT4 was released until GT5 Prologue and I was still improving my Nurburgring lap times in march. People have been complaining forever about Gran Turismo being too easy and here comes Prologue, a little harder than the previous installments, and people are whinging that its too hard less than a month after its release!

There needs to be some sort of balance between being able to pass (ie bronze) the challenges quickly enough to keep people interested, while keeping 1st place as something to aspire too over time (ie a year or more). I do have a few minor complaints with Prologue but this is one thing Polyphony have got spot on IMO.

FFS if you can't get gold in a year then maybe its time to complain about it being too hard, but if you are sick of trying already switch to NFS or go fly a ****ing kite or something.
 
Whats all this talk about Quick Tune to pass the events. To my understanding, QTS is only available for the S-Class events. C through to A class doesn't allow that option. Surely spyrrari can show us how it was done on pro physics 👍 (Were you using a controller or wheel?)
Would the race lines be slightly different from Standard to Pro? Throttle control must be used to a fine art to achieve max grip through the turns but it sucks on a controller. Pedals are the way to go.
 
MasterDriver
I think a better Question would be "Gold WITHOUT any Quick-Tuning AND WITHOUT any AIDS! ON PRO"

There are several that are impossible to even get close to 1st w/o any kind of "Quick Tunning".
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That's what I'm wondering as well. I haven't has access to quick tune yet, but I've raced all the challenges many, many times over many, many different ways (driving style, I still use pro physics no assists except that default 1 ABS), and some I can't for the life of me Gold, or even Silver one or two.
 
MowTin
It would be nice if we had a list of the challenges that are impossible on pro physics.
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I'm going out on a limb here and saying that nothing is impossible in this game. Difficult, maybe; requiring practice, yes; but impossible? Not a chance.
 
Maybe all is possible on PRO, but only a handful of people can do it? Just like in real life racing. Only few of the drivers are THE best.
I really dont know..
 
Duke
I'm going out on a limb here and saying that nothing is impossible in this game. Difficult, maybe; requiring practice, yes; but impossible? Not a chance.
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I don't think any of them are impossible. Hard? You bet. I do, however, think some of the challenges may require access to the quick tune to beat though.
 
If so, is it possible to complete these races cleanly and without bumping or using any other sort of foul driving techniques? If some people can do this, hats off to them I say!

The events that make you start from last to finish first in one lap are the most ludicrous, because these are the races where the AI are pretty much pre-set on the lines they take, its pretty much up to you to figure out. Ok, I have to pass these cars here, then move here, draft this guy, overtake these two cars when they slide of the track and so on. Its a linear experience pretty much, and most frustrating. These are the events that I am assuming that most people are suffering on in pro physics.
 
I would love to see top 5 drivers in the world and tackle the S class! :)
 
Forget the fact of whether they're possible or not, a lot of these events are silly. Pass 15 cars in one lap? For being a simulator that's a very unrealistic scenario. I would rather see actual race events where you have to qualify and then run at least a 10 lap race. Keeping a lead with a car constantly .2 seconds behind you is way more fun that the frustration of some of these events.
 
Threshold
Forget the fact of whether they're possible or not, a lot of these events are silly. Pass 15 cars in one lap? For being a simulator that's a very unrealistic scenario. I would rather see actual race events where you have to qualify and then run at least a 10 lap race. Keeping a lead with a car constantly .2 seconds behind you is way more fun that the frustration of some of these events.
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+1; I agree totally, 100%, entirely!

Also I have to admit that I don't like the events at all. I just want to get the game, install it and start driving, practicing, like I did with GTR!
 
Threshold
Forget the fact of whether they're possible or not, a lot of these events are silly. Pass 15 cars in one lap? For being a simulator that's a very unrealistic scenario. I would rather see actual race events where you have to qualify and then run at least a 10 lap race. Keeping a lead with a car constantly .2 seconds behind you is way more fun that the frustration of some of these events.
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Yes!
Have to agree also. Was thinking about this since I started playing GT5 P.
My hopes are that prologue is more like a "driving missions" game where you have to do totally unrealistic stuff like passing all cars in one lap (not to mention the drafting effect is a bit overdone) or even moving up from last place to first or third in 3 or 5 laps and all this will change with the qualifying option in GT5. Then of course the AI has to drive better though so you can have some nice position battles and the player is not given a magical super human Michael Schumacher on steroids ability to fly through a field of cars and eventually pass everybody. That is very sad.
 
MowTin
It would be nice if we had a list of the challenges that are impossible on pro physics.

1. A-3 BMW M3 @ Eiger reverse: Gold Impossible. Rumors of Silver
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I totally agree with #1 being difficult... not sure about "impossible". It's necessary to be very ginger on the gas coming out of the apex of the longer turns, or you'll be going sideways. And if one of the more grippy AI cars taps you from behind, well, try again next lap.

With pro physics, all aids off, manual transmission (clutch enabled) and "simulation" setting for the G25 wheel in options, I was able to squeak out about 1:19 after several failed attempts. It is definitely not easy, and definitely not pretty enough to post on YouTube. :scared:

I've used these settings from race #1 in GT5P. Just for kicks, I turned the assists back on and went with standard physics (first time for everything). It was more or less impossible to oversteer, and the whole thing felt very numb. Not nearly as much fun. But I did get the Silver time on lap #2, and was sneaking up on Gold by the end of the 10 minutes.

However, an actual BMW M3 has plenty of assist features built in (which can be disabled, as well), so, Pro physics aside, I wonder if turning off all assists for this car is really a fair simulation or not?
 
Threshold
Forget the fact of whether they're possible or not, a lot of these events are silly. Pass 15 cars in one lap? For being a simulator that's a very unrealistic scenario. I would rather see actual race events where you have to qualify and then run at least a 10 lap race. Keeping a lead with a car constantly .2 seconds behind you is way more fun that the frustration of some of these events.
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I disagree. I think it's cool if you have a game with realistic physics that puts your car handling skills to the test in some unrealistic situations. I think it's fun and challenging. I find that I've learned a lot about overtaking in those challenges. You have to be very very skilled to pull these off cleanly and it's fun.

Most sims lack this fun factor.
 

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