In-car view: TOO DARK!!

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Hi everyone

I think we really need to get some traffic going on the awful state of the lighting when you drive with the in-car view. It can vary from course to course and car to car but in some cases it's just plain awful. A perfect example is the current Seasonal with the Honda S2000 06. Chase cam or bonnet cam it's a sunny day; in-car it's like driving at night. Clearly this must be a bug with the lighting model?

Also, has anyone noticed (since the latest patch) how if you do drive in-car and then quit to the race menu, the circuit that is displaying the in background is darker? If you re-start the race and go to an outside car view the brightness returns when you go back to the race menu.

An awful state of affairs if you ask me. Adjusting the contrast helps but that's not ideal as it is brightening aspects that don't need to be.

PD sort it out!
 
I think the actual cockpit is often too dark, how often during the day can you not see the instruments in your own car? For half the track the instruments are often too dark to see when in reality you can see them all the time regardless of the position of the sun.
 
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They are two different and separate problems: the topic you quoted is about "too dark shadow on the cockpit ", this topic is about "too dark windshield". The first problem makes difficult to read the onboard instruments. The second problem makes the external environment darker than what you see from bumper and bonnet cam.

Maybe or maybe not. The OP should clarify what he meant, because dark dashboard is part of dark onboard view..

Although personally for me, the view through windshield isn't so annoying as the dashboard itself.
 
Open top cars are great on cockpit view. For everything else then I like the traditional bumper cam, you get the best visuals and the greatest sensation of speed. Considering most of us are using a single monitor then bumper cam makes the most sense, and chase cam is ridiculously artificial looking even though you see the car. With bumper cam you experience the movement of the car (same with cockpit view) whereas with chase cam you watch the movement of the car, that's what I think anyway?
 
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Maybe or maybe not. The OP should clarify what he meant, because dark dashboard is part of dark onboard view..

Although personally for me, the view through windshield isn't so annoying as the dashboard itself.
OP is clear as crystal water: sunny day that seems cloudy through the windshield.
 
After 1.03 I test drove a few cars and thought they fixed the problem.. Of course the next day I drove a few more cars at a few different tracks and realized they did not fix the problem at all.

GT6 lighting is screwed up in general.. especially when in cockpit view looking out through the windshield, and at your own gauges..
 
i have yet to see this "too dark Interior" at all.

Maybe its just not on every GT or im just driving better lighted cars and missing all the bad ones?
That's very possible. Some cars are fine, some have what amounts to very dark tinted windshield.. Also the gauges in some cars seem to work most fo the time, in others, gauges only visible in direct sunlight, or else they are too dark.
 
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That's very possible. Some cars are fine, some have what amounts to very dark tinted windshield.. Also the gauges in some cars seem to work most fo the time, in others, gauges only visible in direct sunlight, or else they are too dark.

What are some of the "bad" cars that people are having issues with?

Only interior complaint i have so far is the Bentley Speed 8 looks like a standard interior to me for most part and the windshield wiper animation sucks.

what cars have bad lighting?
 
I noticed the new Toyota concept has really good lighting, out the windshield at least. Then maybe try the Enzo compared to that at Willow Springs. Go back and forth from bumper cam to cockpit view and compare brightness. I noticed the enzo still has window tint yesterday, but it wasn't as bad as some cars.
 
It's not too dark it's the auto adjust like when your eyes readjust to lighting, the in car view is supposed to be slightly darker than the exterior as it's that way on a great many vehicles. Problem is the camera doesn't come to the correct amount of light and thus you end up with really dark looking interiors and hard to read instruments panels. GT5 before it got nerfed had some serious light adjusting especially when leaving dark tunnels back out into sunny places same thing when switching from interior to exterior views, the default amount of light is probably off somewhat because not every car has this incredible darkening inside and it varies the levels of darkness in the cars affected. Probably has something to do with the new HDR levels as they are far greater than GT5's PD should look in to fixing the settings of those and while they are it how about giving us the ability to calibrate the triggers on the DS3 and pedals on wheels, I'm tired of arbitrary settings the game uses and want to tailor it to how my controller feels in my hand. Why is that not standard in GT as of yet?
 
It's not too dark........
Yes it is.

No car on the planet has a limo tinted windshield. Some on GT6 look like they do, while others are fine and have no difference between cockpit and bumper view.

I agree that it is the HDR system that is the problem. PD are obviously just terrible at making it work effectively. I believe it is a matter of tuning the system individually for all cars.
 
BWX
Yes it is.

No car on the planet has a limo tinted windshield. Some on GT6 look like they do, while others are fine and have no difference between cockpit and bumper view.

I agree that it is the HDR system that is the problem. PD are obviously just terrible at making it work effectively. I believe it is a matter of tuning the system individually for all cars.
That's depend on TV setting like brightness and contrast did affect the HDR system.
 
The car I have really noticed this on most so far is the Mercedes Vision GT car, where I couldn't drive it using the cockpit view....though that one could be explained by the lack of dashboard (nice black area) and the small size of the windscreen...it was just too dark even in daylight. Some cars I have noticed being distinctly darker than others but not enough to affect my driving or view but then my TV is pretty bright at my normal settings (I use the same TV settings for the PS3 input as I do for my PC input...they both go through the same TV, a shop brand LED)
 
That's depend on TV setting like brightness and contrast did affect the HDR system.
Right, but when you set the TV up "correctly".. meaning no washed out white and no crushed black, it is still way too dark sometimes. Sometimes it is fine, depending on car/ track/ time of day, etc.

Also you have to crank white balance in game up to +1 during night sometimes and it is still too dark, and then sometimes you have to set it back to 0 for day.. Back and forth, back and forth. They really need to sort it out.

I have an old Sharp Aquos from 2007. It was a $3,600 TV, 52" LCD.. Very high quality even by today's standards, and insane backlight power with lots of adjustments. I need to crank backlight and even brightness, which I never have to do for any other game, movie, or input. GT6 just needs adjusting I think. The HDR system doesn't work the same for all cars and tracks, and it really should.
 
BWX
After 1.03 I test drove a few cars and thought they fixed the problem.. Of course the next day I drove a few more cars at a few different tracks and realized they did not fix the problem at all.

I experienced this too. There was some chatter on the forum that this was indeed fixed.

I tested a few cars, on a few tracks, switching between views. The view out the windshield had the same exposure as the other view!

Then the ninja update came and back it went! :banghead:
 
I experienced this too. There was some chatter on the forum that this was indeed fixed.

I tested a few cars, on a few tracks, switching between views. The view out the windshield had the same exposure as the other view!

Then the ninja update came and back it went! :banghead:

You're right it was after the second ninja update that the view went back to being darker, but not sure if it is on most cars or all cars or what.

I know right after 1.03, the new Toyota concept car had great visibility out of the windshield, same exact exposure as bumper cam. It was on Trial mountain and Willow I tested it. I guess if it is back to being dark there with that car, then it was an update that changed it, not just the car I was using.

It's amazing that they can't get this right.
 
So just adjust the video brightness if need be......

I use cockpit view exclusively and have no lighting issues
 
Did anyone notice the unreadable dash in the KTM. Didn't matter whether it was night or day, sunny or not you could never read it. Patch 1.03 seems to have fixed the KTM's dash some what.
 
There is a good difference now in cockpit and first person view. Generally both cannot be same. So in a way it is good that cockpit is little darker and make more sense. Some cars windshield are such that it prevents too shiny lights to the drivers I guess. I have increased the exposure to 2 values more. Not too much problem for me.
 
I think the in car view is fine, it's a bit darker than GT5's, but I've got used to it now.
 
I agree. I rarely use cockpit mode. The POV is way off. I feel like a short 10 year old kid with his head 6 inches away from the steering wheel.
 
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