India's Buddh International Circuit unveiled

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No pomp, no ceremony, just a two-dimensional planograph that appeared on the Jaypee Group's official website. You should note that the image I've posted is actually a little wrong - going by the plan uploaded to the website, I'd say the start line is actually on the opposite straight. I know it looks like the illegitimate child of Kyalami and Istanbul, but a few artificial hills across the top section like the ones in Abu Dhabi, and it could be solid, if not spectacular.

Given that none of Tilke's tracks have been identical to the original plans, I'd say we could expect some minor changes along the way.
 
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I wonder what the next idea will be to make it different like Abu Dhabi's pit exit and Sinapore's night racing.
Maybe make it a double-decked track this time, 1 lap on the bottom, then the next on the top, then back on the bottom and so on? 💡 I always liked those insane scalextric tracks.

If only :lol:
 
Ardius
I wonder what the next idea will be to make it different like Abu Dhabi's pit exit and Sinapore's night racing.
Maybe make it a double-decked track this time, 1 lap on the bottom, then the next on the top, then back on the bottom and so on? 💡 I always liked those insane scalextric tracks.

If only :lol:
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Do u mean Suzuka for instance :sly:
 
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I know it looks like the illegitimate child of Kyalami and Istanbul
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I get what you are saying but I think you could add Long Beach in there as well with the Le Gasomet hairpin
 
Its because they don't want Tilke to design it, they don't want the reputation of having a boring 'all location, no racing' track, but the whole thing has been thrown into doubt thanks to the antics of Manmohar Gill (sports minister), who's blocking all payments to CVC/Ecclestone saying that F1 and motorsport is 'just expensive entertainment and is not a sport therefore it doesnt have a place in India'... any educated Indian will tell you, it's just the corrupt government trying to get 'their cut'.
 
Ardius
No, no, no. I mean two tracks, one on top of the other.
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I get what you mean. I think it would look like a figure of a 2-storey car park. It's a creative Idea but you know what the developers would say, complicated etc... :p

But anyway if it becomes a reality, then It's going to be fantastic!!
 
It's time a big nation like India hosts its own Grand Prix. The circuit has quite a few deep corners and I hope this will bring overtakes.
 
India has two or three other circuits. This one is surely going to put India on the map. I can surely see this as a great track to race. Maybe not to the level of Istanbul Park or Bahrain, but it's going to be a very nice track.
 
PeterJB
It's Tilke, so don't count on it!
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Actually, India is the first circuit where Tilke has changed his approach. He usually spends a month observing the site and taking detailed measurements of the land. They produce a three-dimensional topographical map, and then use string to plot potential layouts across the site. They gradually narrow it down to a set of final designs, then return to the site and start examining what challenges they would face for building each one. They gradually get it down to one layout, which becomes the final draft.

However, for India - and now Austin and Sochi - Tilke has added an extra step. Rather than signing off on the final draft and starting construction, he sends the plans to the teams, who input the data into their simulators and start running laps. They will then supply feedback on what needs to be changed. It's usually only smal things, but I believe the teams got the angle of turn four altered to be slightly less sharp than it originally was, and they had the approach to turn five shortened to open turns six and seven up. The drivers also have a little input; Michael Schumacher, Alex Wurz and a third driver whose name I cannot remember were consulted, and they had the road at turns three, six and eleven widened to shorten the apex. I believe they are trying to create a situation where the ideal racing line changes depending upon the state of a driver's tyres.

And given the reception to Austin, Bernie Ecclestone has stepped up Tilke's involvement to get him into the game sooner. Rather than simply being given a piece of land, Tilke will now consult with the organisers of new races to find the ideal piece of land. The idea behind this is that in future, Tilke's canvases will be more like Austin and less like Shanghai.
 
When you say it like that (Post #15), it seems pretty convincing that people have more leverage over certain tracks and track designs. Maybe this change in approach could make certain tracks more interesting than most recent Tilke tracks. Shanghai is by far the funkiest circuit of his. I called it a "voluptuous" track because of its many curves (none of which are sexy). It has to be a leaning nightmare for motorcycle riders to go around Shanghai when you have the sweeping, decreasing radius right-hander.

I'll still need to imagine laps around Jaypee Group Circuit to see what kind of action this track can provide. I see this course being a solid one to race and perhaps one of the more challenging courses in Asia (let alone mainland Asia).
 
Pretty interesting vids.

Also some early versions of what they think the Austin race will look like in "similar videos" too.

Shame that there is no track map on those videos though.

C.
 
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Just Google the circuit. You can find maps on Wikipedia.
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Yes - but that doesn't show where they are at the specific time - hence my comment.

(Yes I know I could work it out etc - but it would be nice if they had them overlaid)

C.
 
lets just hope they dont make a hash of little things like they did with the commonwealth games! but still kinda proud of where India is going!, who would have thought there would have been a F1 race in India a 10-20 years ago?! And the track looks great!
222 days and counting!
 
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lets just hope they dont make a hash of little things like they did with the commonwealth games!
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Uh, this is being built by private contractors where as the Commonwealth Games facilities were all done through the democratic process of asking for tenders and choosing the cheapest.
 
argh fair nuff, didnt know that, but what i meant was the stuff that goes on around the race, that would probably draw attention to its self. But i hope thats not the case!!
 
The circuit has been re-named. Or, rather, officially named. It's now the "Buddh International Circuit" (I've changed the thread title accordingly). Apparently, it's derived from "Buddha", of all people, and means "peace and tranquility". Personally, I think naming a Formula 1 circuit peace and tranquility is about the same as renaming the Nobel Peace Prize after Muammar Qaddafi, but at least it's not something boring like "Indian International Circuit" ...
 
I'm interested to see how the Indian fan base takes to F1... for a country that lives off one sport, this is practically an invasion.
 
I'm nervous about seeing races here. It doesn't seem remotely conducive to good racing. From turn 5 to turn 15 the circuit is just a bunch of connected turns. I always like seeing new circuits though.
 
I know. The middle sector doesn't look that way though. I'm not going to hate on it until I see racing.
 
I've seen simulated laps and elevation profiles. There's a lot going on. Turns 5 and 6 are a double-apex left, with turn 7 deliberately placed so that drivers have to miss the apex of 6 in order to take 7 properly. Turn 10 is banked, whilst turns 13 and 14 are actually pretty steep. And the apex of turn 15 is actually going downhill. Tilke seems to have designed the circuit in such a way that each individual corner has its own racing line - but when you string them all together, the racing line changes to something quite unorthodox. What looks inefficent will actually be the fastest.
 

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