Initiating drift WITHOUT e-brake?

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First off: I'm aware of things like the Drift Bible (which I still need to watch.) That said:

Newbie drifter, still practicing on Tsukuba. Though my drift skills are anything but amazing yet (still can't link the 1-2-3), I'm getting decent at initiating with the e-brake.

However, I'm having trouble initiating WITHOUT the e-brake. o_O I can power-over if I'm in something with RIDICULOUS horsepower, but I shouldn't have to brute force initiating with tonnes of hp, should I?

Also having trouble with feint drifts. Is it possible to effectively feint on every turn on Tsukuba? Should I just stick with it, or maybe switch up to another course (like Autum Ring Mini?)
 
You should use your brakes when you're transferring the weight, so it shift towards the front and allows grip for the direction you're going. Plus, you have to use them to slow down on corners like the first one of Tsukuba. It's a bit difficult, yet possible. Best tracks to go on and feint is on something like High Speed Ring or Special Stage Route 5 since they all offer quick corners. If you need any more help ask me.
 
You don't have to practice in Tsukuba, and yes it is possible. Try something with easy corners while following racing lines. Trail Mountain is a good suggestion.
 
I've been using the feint to initiate all my drifts and find that it is very effective. What I'd suggest that I know works for me personally is to use the driving line and follow the braking distances, the at the end of the red I just give it a little push in the opposite direction and pull it back into the corner, which I think does well for creating angle on entry. It should work anywhere really.
 
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Also having trouble with feint drifts. Is it possible to effectively feint on every turn on Tsukuba? Should I just stick with it, or maybe switch up to another course (like Autum Ring Mini?)
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Yea it's possible to feint on every turn, it's especially useful for cars that don't have much power. Tsukuba is nice and flat, with plenty of track width to practice feinting so I personally like practing there as opposed to something like Autumn Ring. When you're feinting, try to keep it tight so that you don't transfer to much weight and spin out.
 
Blank_Redge
First off: I'm aware of things like the Drift Bible (which I still need to watch.) That said:

Newbie drifter, still practicing on Tsukuba. Though my drift skills are anything but amazing yet (still can't link the 1-2-3), I'm getting decent at initiating with the e-brake.

However, I'm having trouble initiating WITHOUT the e-brake. o_O I can power-over if I'm in something with RIDICULOUS horsepower, but I shouldn't have to brute force initiating with tonnes of hp, should I?

Also having trouble with feint drifts. Is it possible to effectively feint on every turn on Tsukuba? Should I just stick with it, or maybe switch up to another course (like Autum Ring Mini?)
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To be honest you would have to be an actual pro to link 1,2 and 3rd on Tsukuba every single time. I use the e brake a lot but it is very much possible to fient into a drift, or even power over really early to get a good angle. You have to be travelling faster though to scrub off speed.
 
Blank, add me on PSN, ill help yo uand practise with you a bit. I drift both the controller and a wheel, and cant use a handbrake when drifting on the wheel, so every single kick will be feint or a power slide. Anyway, add me: Gonales.
 
DriifterzZ
To be honest you would have to be an actual pro to link 1,2 and 3rd on Tsukuba every single time. I use the e brake a lot but it is very much possible to fient into a drift, or even power over really early to get a good angle. You have to be travelling faster though to scrub off speed.
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No, u dont have to be pro for it, i can link every corner on 70% of the laps, but i dont consider myself even close to being pro.
 
im_remi
No, u dont have to be pro for it, i can link every corner on 70% of the laps, but i dont consider myself even close to being pro.
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Oh my bad I was thinking 3rd was the 90º right hander missing out the left,right. Yeah that is easy to link haha.:dunce:
 
There is a couple ways of doing it without using a handbrake.

First Scandinavian flick: Use the cars weight as an advantage to create a swing by flicking it left and right .

Second torque monster: Use your cars torque as an advantage to initiate a drift by going light throttle then going heavy throttle at the entry of a corner .

Third and last Hard Braking: For this you will need to find out how much breaking pressure is applied to your car. Generally cars around the weight of 1000-1200kg go with something around 3-4 brakes in the front and 6-8 in the back. Go into a corner very fastly turn in and break it will eventually start drifting.

Hope This Helped:tup:
 
Tsukuba... as you exit turn 1 you can use 2 simple techniques.

it is best to show rather than explain :) add me on psn if you want a little help..

jimmy281090
 
From my experience, you can initiate drifts without e-brake easily in MR cars. Especially in the compact ones: I've done it in a Lancia Stratos and it kept on moving its tail end out, so you don't really need the handbrake at most times.

For a regular FR car, you're gonna need to "fish-tail" a bit before drifting through the corner.

I'm not that experienced, but hope that helps :)
 
uMadson?
From my experience, you can initiate drifts without e-brake easily in MR cars. Especially in the compact ones: I've done it in a Lancia Stratos and it kept on moving its tail end out, so you don't really need the handbrake at most times.

For a regular FR car, you're gonna need to "fish-tail" a bit before drifting through the corner.

I'm not that experienced, but hope that helps :)
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The Reason you can initiate Drift with MR cars is because the weight of the Engine at the Back of the Car over the rear wheels. The only thing is MR cars are easy to spin if you aren't careful with the throttle.
As a beginner you may want a RWD car with 50/50 weight distribution such as the AE86(1983 Toyota Levin or 1985 Trueno S.S version) or the 90 Mazda Savanna FC or Nissan 180 sx or Sil-Eighty. I'd personally go with the FC because it's a true 50/50 and when u get better you can upgrade the engine and get good power.
 
SKOT_FREE
The Reason you can initiate Drift with MR cars is because the weight of the Engine at the Back of the Car over the rear wheels. The only thing is MR cars are easy to spin if you aren't careful with the throttle.
As a beginner you may want a RWD car with 50/50 weight distribution such as the AE86(1983 Toyota Levin or 1985 Trueno S.S version) or the 90 Mazda Savanna FC or Nissan 180 sx or Sil-Eighty. I'd personally go with the FC because it's a true 50/50 and when u get better you can upgrade the engine and get good power.
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Yup. Even the RUF's, being RR's, are dead easy to initiate drifts. But to execute perfect drifts with these cars, an even more delicate throttle control is needed.

At the moment, I'm practicing with the IS F Racing Concept and the BLITZ DUNLOP ER34 D1GP. I've been thinking of using my unused S13 later on.
 

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