Is grinding really nessecary?

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With the new events and different ways to make XP and Credits, is it really "necessary" to grind Indy still? Or is it just that alot of people want the "quickest" way to earn credits, therefore they grind Indy over and over still?

Just curious, not attacking here.
 
I think it's just the fastest way for money and XP.
Personally I don't do it, I rather re-do other races with different cars etc, keeps things fresh and interesting.
It doesent bother me that i don't 'get there' in a week, I am in with GT5 for the long haul.
 
Seasonal events (I assume you are talking about this when you say 'new events') are great for XP and credits, but they can only be done once. I've done most of them, and if there are no new ones soon I'll be back to grinding.
 
Nothing is "necessary". If you don't do it, and are happy, I guess the answer is obvious.
 
Nothing is "necessary". If you don't do it, and are happy, I guess the answer is obvious.

I just see a lot of people saying "if they didn't make me grind etc" as excuses for doing questionable things in the game. I really don't see where they are forcing anyone to do Indy over and over since there are plenty of ways to get credits if you just drive and let the credits/xp go up from whatever your having fun doing.
 
When the seasonal events are done, its back to grinding. Which way you do it though is up to you. I'm currently grinding b-spec at around level 34 and its boring! My A-spec is almost 30 and I'm yet to start the endurance races yet, doing them will help.
 
Grinding is done because its easy. Racing new events for 1st place is sometimes frustratingly difficult so when you balance out the pro's and cons of what you want to achieve (credits or xp) the path of least resistance is taken more.
 
Just drive and you will get the XP because its all about driving in this game. GT5 is meant to be played for a long time.
 
I never returned to Indy after golding the events there. It bored me to death. Credits accumulate over time and its not like theres a rush to build my dream garage. I bought the game to drive my favorite cars on my favorite tracks, so thats what I do to earn money. The harder it is to obtain cars the better in my opinion cause it gives me a reason to keep playing. To each his own though, everyone bought the game to play it there way
 
Of course grinding is not necessary. It is a choice.

But, if you want to complete the game you will have to repeat a lot of races even if you gold everything, and the level of that is what people refer to as grinding.

It is caused by the XP system, whereas the old license and completing races based system was not broken.

Unfortunately PD have completely missed the point of what video gamers today require from a game and have made GT5 boring rather than exploratory by imposing the repetition that many would have done in some way or other, of there own volition, later on.
 
In all honesty I have not found a great deal of need for unpleasant grinding unless my memory is truly failing me and I'm viewing the last few weeks through rose-tinted glasses.

I obtained gold on all licences and Special Events which got me through the initial levels very quickly, then I set about getting gold on all A-spec events. I did them all in order, only repeating a championship when absolutely necessary to reach the next level up. The main one I recall repeating is the Dream Car Championship, but that never felt like a grind because I enjoy it so much and it's been such a money spinner since update 1.05.

I also had to go back and gold Monaco in the FGT championship as I made a hash of it during the championship mode.

Since late December I have golded all seasonal events and 5 of the 10 Endurance events, having only needed to repeat the Indy 500 once. The Vettel events are now also golded which means I am sitting at Level 34 A-spec, soon to be Level 35 as soon as I run the Suzuka 1000km for the first time.

I just can't remember having had to repeat anything many times over to get here, and I certainly haven't gained any significant XP from running the few online races that I have.

All the best
Maz
 
I dont think grinding is that nesesary. Its a choise some people do, because they are impatient, and just want to get the highest level, and lots of credits in the shortest amount of time.

With seasonal events, XP in online, and if doing the A spec races with challenging cars where you just cant gold every race at your first attempt, there isent that much need for grinding.

Personally I dont get the hurry. I plan to play GT 5 for a long time and I dont care if I get my cars real slow. I dont see the fun in duplicating, or using a B day trick eather.

For me the fun is to find a car I enjoy and use that for a while until I really feel I have reached its full potential, then after that maybe I buy a second version of the same car, and start to tune it ( I want to have a stock version of each car also) or I buy a new car a have fun with that.

Im sure ill get to level 40, and have +1000 cars at some point, but for me it dosent matter if its next week, in a month, or if it takes me a year.
 
There's probably no need to grind unless you're really desperate for some money to buy a car you really want, or because you've just used up all your money buying some shiney you've been drooling over for weeks.

Grinding is so repetative and boring, and by the time you've reached your level goal you'll probably be so sick of the game you'll stop playing it. I'm still enjoying re-running some of the older series in different cars that I've bought, and at the same time keeping an eye out for some of the rarer cars on the 2nd hand market.

This game would be totally awesome with an event creator so that you could create your own series, especially if you could share them online (more DTM races anyone?)

It's just such a great game though I don't want to resort to grinding as I definately think it will spoil the enjoyment rather than make you happy attaining whatever reward it is you are after.
 
I have found it necessary to grind because this game is like Pokemon to me (Gota catch em all). I want every car and credits can only be obtained once from seasonal events. I am currently sitting on 20 million Cr. after grinding Indy in my RM ZR1 waiting for the 2J to show up again.
 
I agree. I enjoy the game and I love driving the cars I do own, which are plenty. The money has come easy for me and so have the levels.

I personally don't understand those who say "the game is horrible 24/7 grind just to get the cars I want".

The game is simply very big. It's a long journey, and for someone who enjoys that journey, that's a great thing. I'm glad there will still be cars I'm chasing months from now. There is no problem for me.

If it's so horrible, why are you grinding away? Why are you playing so much more than me and complaining about the horrible game design? Just be patient and if you're not enjoying driving your mk IV, put it down, because when you get 20mil and buy your P4, driving that won't be miraculously more fun.
 
It is not possible to reach level 40 (A or B Spec) without redoing races.

It is not possible to buy every car in the game without redoing races.

Thus, "grinding" is necessary if you want to reach end game, or even to buy certain car's.

Sugar-coating the issue by saying "I was having so much fun, so I didn't notice" or "I just use different cars, so I don't get bored" doesn't change the facts.

If you want to progress, or even sample a fraction of the 40 Skylines available in Gran Turismo 5, you will be grinding. Prove me wrong.
 
With the new events and different ways to make XP and Credits, is it really "necessary" to grind Indy still? Or is it just that alot of people want the "quickest" way to earn credits, therefore they grind Indy over and over still?

Just curious, not attacking here.

Nope, it is possible to actually play it like a game and enjoy it :)

I don't know if you reach a point in the higher levels where you plateau even with gold on everything if you have only done each race once but online would always be there.
 
It is not possible to reach level 40 (A or B Spec) without redoing races.

It is not possible to buy every car in the game without redoing races.

Thus, "grinding" is necessary if you want to reach end game, or even to buy certain car's.

Sugar-coating the issue by saying "I was having so much fun, so I didn't notice" or "I just use different cars, so I don't get bored" doesn't change the facts.

If you want to progress, or even sample a fraction of the 40 Skylines available in Gran Turismo 5, you will be grinding. Prove me wrong.

EVERY car in the game? We've been waiting 5 years for this and we're a month in and we have people complaining they hate having to play for 6 hours straight, repeating a single race to get ALL the cars.

Please just use your duplicating cheat, get all the cars, get bored and leave the rest of us to enjoy the game and collect them patiently, over time. I have always had easy access to at least one competent car of every class at my level at the time.
 
Well over last 3 days i have "ground" 10 million,

so its usefull!. racing your own 10 million would take away the joy of playing the game.

Its not that good to sit there for 7 hours a day racing noob AI for cash,
 
It is necessary. I've done all Seasonal events on gold, done all events up to the endurance races and grinded A LOT on indy and drove some other events multiple times; yet Im only level 29.
I dont get these people that reached lvl 40 like 2 weeks ago already.
 
I think the XP system is perfect. Players nowdays think that they can achieve everything with little effort. Who says you should finish the game 1 month? This game is for years, and I do not care if I only reach lvl40 in 2 years time! I want to have fun playing with my mates online, this only matters.

The best example is World of Warcraft: 10 million people play WoW, but only thousands can even see the Lich King, never mind defeating him:)

I'm lvl 25 since Xmas and yesterday I had 16 racers in my private lobby only for testing GT500 cars. Racing was never an option, we were just doing laps to know the cars for 3 hours!!!
 
In all honesty I have not found a great deal of need for unpleasant grinding unless my memory is truly failing me and I'm viewing the last few weeks through rose-tinted glasses.
I had to grind Aspec despite golding everything, to get to level 30. The seasonal events (not available at the time) would have negated my need to grind, but anyways my Aspec grinding was not bad enough to moan about. Bspec... now that is different.. be warned.
 
It would take an awful long time to earn the millions and millions needed to buy all those cool cars you want if you weren't grinding the highest paying races. I don't plan on playing this game for the rest of my life LOL.
 
It's different for different people.

Some people have the skills (and equiptment i.e. steering wheel) to obtain gold in events like the Vettel challenge, others don't - and subsequently don't receive the huge amount of experience points you get for golding these events.

Some people want to collect cars, others want to race cars onliine.

Some people like seasonal events, others don't.

Some people want to progress and complete the game quickly, others don't.

Some people want to drift, some people want to do time triails, some B spec etc etc

The people who play gt5 are extremely diverse and what people want from GT5 also varies aswell. The list of different ways to play the game and what people want from the game is very long, and how to achieve what you want from the game also varies.

To top it off, some people think of grinding as repeating a race say 50-100 times, some people see grinding as repeating a race only a few times.

Grinding is a point of view and a matter of personal interpretation, skills, equiptment and needs within the game.

Before update 1.05 I would have answered differently and simply said ''yes'', but the changes made in 1.05 has opened up new opportunities and new ways of both playing the game and getting what you need or want from the game.
 
Well, I golded every seasonal event. every special event and I am lvl 28 A-Spec. So I need to re-do Indy 500 two more times in order to be able to do Suzuka 1000km(lv29).

In B-Spec I need to re-do the Dream Car Champpionship 2 times to get to lv25. Everything else is done.

You could however try online. it will give you some A-spec xp, but at an alarmingly slow rate.

So yes, you will need to grind.
 
<rant> I just wish the prize money for events would at least cover the cost of having to buy and mod the necessary car for that particular event. Dropping 100k-600k just to be able to enter the race and have a chance at beating it and only winning 20k-99k is a slap in the face. and to top it off the prize car is usually THE CAR YOU NEED TO DO THE EVENT IN THE FIRST PLACE!!! Why can't the prize car be one needed for a different event? even that small change would make a world of difference. Instead of being: Here is a car you don't need because you already bought one. it could be: Here is a car that you will need in a future race.
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Well, I golded every seasonal event. every special event and I am lvl 28 A-Spec. So I need to re-do Indy 500 two more times in order to be able to do Suzuka 1000km(lv29).

In B-Spec I need to re-do the Dream Car Champpionship 2 times to get to lv25. Everything else is done.

You could however try online. it will give you some A-spec xp, but at an alarmingly slow rate.

So yes, you will need to grind.

What if you just play the game and don't care about the next level? Play online, play your favourite races offline and just have fun with GT5. What happens if you just ding lvl29 in just 2 weeks time?

This game is about racing. If you don't race enough you won't see every content.
 
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This game is about racing. If you don't race enough you won't see every content.


You got it - is should be about racing - but without the appropriate level you can't participate in the races....

But unfortunately GT5 isn't about racing - it is about stupid special events and about licences that are good for nothing and for even more stupid "B-Spec"...
 
Now that you can earn xp for online races, there is no need to grind. I grind because I personally find it a fun way to learn tracks while also earning large xp/credits. There is no need to grind in this game unless you want to.
 
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