Is it possible to tune a Porsche so that it doesn't drive like a total idiot?

[sesselpupser]

The game gave me a 911 GT3 (996) '01 and said "go do a lap of the Nürburgring Nordschleife in the rain and I'll give you another Porsche", naturally my first response to this was "no thanks" but it turns out I have to do it. I've put an aero kit on it, SS tyres, no weight reduction and enough small power mods to bring it up to 650pp with some downforce added, but it's just ridiculously nervous, sometimes spinning with very little provocation, sometimes just spearing off the road for no discernible reason and even though I've done probably a million hours on the Nordschleife in my life I finished 6th on my first go.

I hate 911s and I have so far refused to drive them in any game, the engine is in the wrong place for a car that makes that much power, so maybe I should just get a Cayman? Wait, what do you mean there aren't any? This really might be as far as I get with GT7's campaign mode, I have no patience or interest in driving these stupid things.

 

[Hotrod313]

Racing slicks don’t have any tread pattern to expel water; try some wet tires. Install a high wing and max out downforce front and rear. Also, lower it as much as possible. It’s a quick and dirty fix, but I’ve found it makes any rear wheel drive car less squirrely.

 

[demonchilde]

I spent a little money getting it good.
Full downforce front and back.
200 ballast at -50 (making the balance 48/52). (This is important.)

I didn't bother with an LSD computer because I found it wasn't needed. I planned on using it for those 3 races and thats it, the one it came with is fine.
Hight/springs I grabbed only the SPORTS adjustable. And only did that so I could lift the front a little higher then the back.

With the 3 weight reductions, the 200 to ballast isn't a big deal. And more importantly puts the weight where it needs to be (48/52).
That worked for me.

 

[Rotary Junkie]

Porsches are interesting, strange, infuriating creatures.

Left foot braking and general throttle work are your best friends with one; more throttle means more stable so long as you don't overpower the rear tires. You can tune it away as shown above with ballast, but it makes for a slower car at max attack.

 

[Strittan]

I’ve been may more frustrated by other cars than the Porsches I’ve driven. The 964 and 993 are actually two of my favourite cars in the game so far.

 

[sesselpupser]

Racing slicks don’t have any tread pattern to expel water; try some wet tires. Install a high wing and max out downforce front and rear. Also, lower it as much as possible. It’s a quick and dirty fix, but I’ve found it makes any rear wheel drive car less squirrely.

I can't remember but I'm pretty sure the Porsche Cup is limited to sports tyres only, also the first time I did it it didn't rain until the end and the grip meter barely changed so I was still having problems when it was dry. Thanks, and thanks @Rotary Junkie and @demonchilde, I'll give your tips a shot later.

 

[Hotrod313]

Apologies, I thought “SS” stood for super soft tires (slicks), I have formula 1 on the brain.

I just went through the same race. I used a 996 gt3 with medium sport tires and ended up second. It did get a bit ugly when I hit the rain toward the end. I wonder if intermediates would work better… it doesn’t appear to have any tire restrictions.

My 996 has severe understeer and the brakes are trash, even with the carbon ceramics fitted. Who knows, maybe the understeer is what kept it on the road.

I’m probably going to give it a go with the 993 later on down the road.

 

[syntex123]

I used the 993 on Nurb in the wet with intermediates. No tune, just parts. Front and side aero, no custom wing. She sits as 639pp. Easy win.

 

[zaxs]

Some tuning for Taycan for book 30 (650PP)?
I think it's better choice since 911 is dancing like he wants...

 

[nerDmasts]

Porsches are interesting, strange, infuriating creatures.

Left foot braking and general throttle work are your best friends with one; more throttle means more stable so long as you don't overpower the rear tires. You can tune it away as shown above with ballast, but it makes for a slower car at max attack.

You mean pushing the throttle and the Break at the same time?

 

[demonchilde]

I didn't think he was going to suddenly like Porsches and want a finely tunes masterpiece to use often, lol. I thought (much like myself) he preferred other drive trains and simply want to get through these 3 races.
Thats why I "tuned it out" as best I could.
Worked for me as I did all 3 races with easy wins with it like that.

I know some people can drive a kids tricycle through La Mans without altering it but I'm not that alien, lol.
Just trying to help.

 

[NJ72]

Alternatively, turn the difficulty down... Put it on one chili, run those races, then put it back to where it was before. Seems a cop-out, but a shame to miss out on the rest of the cafe cars etc. just because of those 3 races

 

[vonMarshall]

I too struggled but then went and did another race and won the 993. Mods like racing clutch seem to make the car more nervous so I left it all as normal at just over 600pp. I cannot win with that power but I can keep it nicely on the road and had a really fun race to come 3rd, which is all you need to progress. Remember 3rd is something like 10 seconds behind 1st in this race so ignore that time through the race, gentle on the throttle and brakes, and you will find yourself on the podium.

in fact both the 993 and crazily enough, the Turbo, are actually a joy to drive with very limited power upgrades. It’s only when I go a bit crazy and throw on 50+ bhp that it all goes wrong!

 

[RobikV3]

930 Turbo is ridiculous, I tuned mine into RWB build at 475hp, but man it snaps into drifts in weirdest ways

 

[Harley45]

My 930 Setup , it needs to be used with that steering assist wotsit on Strong , you can drive it without , but it's a twitchy bugga . fun though in a sick sort of way .
TC set to 1
ABS to Weak
CAUTION - Crests and downhill sweepers need to be given respect .

I drove this thing stock when I won it , my first thought was to chain it to a lampost and feed it small children as it was terrifying to drive , anyhow by trial a lot of it and error , more than I care to admit I got to here .

Tune is ongoing and any input will be noted

So here we go

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First up GT Auto and get those fine young men to widen it for you .
Next get some wheels I used the BBS Versions and they are wider and 18"

The Tune
This is for Sports Soft
528Bhp/649.55pp
Weight Reduction all of them 1 / 2 / 3
Ballast 200 at -50

Set Up
100/110
9/5
35/40
43/45
3.00/3.10
1.5/1.5
0.10/0.10
LSD 5/8/50

Tuning Engine
High Rpm Turbo : More power to a rear wheel monster am I mad
Anti Lag System : why yes i do want to die quicker thank you
Racing Intercooler : will be cooler than me as I sweat buckets wondering it i'll get around the next corner
Racing Air Cleaner : Eco friendly honest
Racing Silencer : it's for economy , honest Officer
Racing Exhaust Manifold : nasty hydro carbons fast removal system
Bore up : Everyone prefers a wide one eh
Stroke up : Children maybe present i'll skip the smutty idea I wanted to put here .
Polish Ports : Hey can you see your face in these ?
High Lift Camshaft : as opposed to a low lift one I suppose
Racing Crankshaft : Hmm always wondered if a stock crankshaft spins at say 5,750rpm a racing one does the same eh

Important part
Brakes Carbon : the Extreme Versions Ok , kinda handy to stop , These are Sharp be careful ok
Racing Brake Pads : Add these as well seems like a silly thing but the Carbon Discs pads are well a bit crap so you need the upgrade
Brake Controller mine is set to -3 : play around you may not like this lol

Lastly Gearbox I added the Racing one set the default speed to 320 again this is something you play with .

At the end of all this it'll weigh 1,214Kg and have a 50:50 Balance .

This how I use mine , your welcome to try it but No Warranty is given or implied

 

[shardlojik]

200 ballast at -50 (making the balance 48/52). (This is important.)

This was very helpful in getting my 997 to not spin like a record at the slightest provocation (along with being a lot smoother on steering and throttle inputs). That got me to the bare minimum of 3rd of each race, pretty much as far as my meagre talents will stretch.

I then noticed that the Porsche races don’t require a road car… so I did my usual GT thing of the unfair advantage and purchased a GT4 Cayman (I was going to get one anyway), threw on some inters and won all 3.

 

[BarnabyJones]

The game gave me a 911 GT3 (996) '01 and said "go do a lap of the Nürburgring Nordschleife in the rain and I'll give you another Porsche", naturally my first response to this was "no thanks" but it turns out I have to do it. I've put an aero kit on it, SS tyres, no weight reduction and enough small power mods to bring it up to 650pp with some downforce added, but it's just ridiculously nervous, sometimes spinning with very little provocation, sometimes just spearing off the road for no discernible reason and even though I've done probably a million hours on the Nordschleife in my life I finished 6th on my first go.

I hate 911s and I have so far refused to drive them in any game, the engine is in the wrong place for a car that makes that much power, so maybe I should just get a Cayman? Wait, what do you mean there aren't any? This really might be as far as I get with GT7's campaign mode, I have no patience or interest in driving these stupid things.

I share your pain. The purists will hate this, but in order to save time and credits I just turned on all the assists for that particular race in the menu books. Also set the AI difficulty level to the lowest one. Managed to win by about 10s.

 

[demonchilde]

I share your pain. The purists will hate this, but in order to save time and credits I just turned on all the assists for that particular race in the menu books. Also set the AI difficulty level to the lowest one. Managed to win by about 10s.

Nothing wrong with that.
Do what you gotta do, open the game fully up.
And if you decide to go back later and work on the trophies that require more then great 👍
Important thing is you have fun.

 

[BarnabyJones]

Nothing wrong with that.
Do what you gotta do, open the game fully up.
And if you decide to go back later and work on the trophies that require more then great 👍
Important thing is you have fun.

Yeah I just wanted to get past that one quickly. Working through the menus quickly so I can delve into the world of sport mode once again.

 

[TonyB66]

I’m struggling with the same race and car. I’ve done some power mods and aero but still can’t get better than 6th. An LSD helped a bit, but I’m still losing the car too much.

 

[AlfaDog89]

Yes, it's very possible. Porsche's are certainly a tough beast to break and they can be quite wild but when all of that power and energy are properly harnessed.. Great things happen. I accidentally used one of Praiano's Porsche builds (GT3 RS (991) '16) on the wrong Porsche (Porsche 911 997.2 GT3 RS ’09) but it ended up turning into a true beast at 648pp. Super quick, agile, and sticks to the track like glue with a very responsive handling. Easily became one of my favourites to drive after dominating the porsche cup!

Using a ds4, hard AI, no assists, manual, abs default

Link to build : https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/praianos-tunes-settings-for-gt7.404868/page-4#post-13613237

 

[wheelhp]

The game gave me a 911 GT3 (996) '01 and said "go do a lap of the Nürburgring Nordschleife in the rain and I'll give you another Porsche", naturally my first response to this was "no thanks" but it turns out I have to do it. I've put an aero kit on it, SS tyres, no weight reduction and enough small power mods to bring it up to 650pp with some downforce added, but it's just ridiculously nervous, sometimes spinning with very little provocation, sometimes just spearing off the road for no discernible reason and even though I've done probably a million hours on the Nordschleife in my life I finished 6th on my first go.

I hate 911s and I have so far refused to drive them in any game, the engine is in the wrong place for a car that makes that much power, so maybe I should just get a Cayman? Wait, what do you mean there aren't any? This really might be as far as I get with GT7's campaign mode, I have no patience or interest in driving these stupid things.

Without reading the other messages here, I do indeed think it's possible. I recall many cars in GT Sport and past titles where I've thought "This car straight up will never be tuned right" then I find a tune or a mate gives me one and it's like a completely different car!!! The most recent example for me was the Stratos in GT Sport, I could never tune it (despite me having over 2k hours in GT Sport, mind you), but a mate sent me a screenshot of his settings and I'm now in bliss. What I noted is the tune was moreless setup to exploit the limits of the suspension values whilst also using key staples of tuning for stability I've seen in other cars.

As for your car I'd honestly try putting a different compound tyre between front and rear if all else fails. Also try playing with ballast, locking the differential decel value especially before tuning the suspension, then revert if desired

 

[god84]

Wow this surprises me, the 911 GT3 was my goto car if I was struggling. I really found it to drive superbly well, but I guess I just got it with that car.

 

[Seikenfreak]

The 911s are pretty great to drive after a little tweaking. Here's the setup I was running on my 996. This was one of my earliest cars I started messing with so maybe I could make it better but its not necessary.

I normally use a wheel but I just did a couple laps on the Ring with it on controller and had no problem.

Hate to say it but if you're still having trouble then it's likely driver error. As someone suggested, turning down the difficulty is your best bet.

 

[shaunm80]

I have an ‘09 911 GT3 tuned in my thread at 650pp and it is an easy drive. If you are still struggling it might be worth a try.

 

[NAVE 15x]

I spent a little money getting it good.
Full downforce front and back.
200 ballast at -50 (making the balance 48/52). (This is important.)

I didn't bother with an LSD computer because I found it wasn't needed. I planned on using it for those 3 races and thats it, the one it came with is fine.
Hight/springs I grabbed only the SPORTS adjustable. And only did that so I could lift the front a little higher then the back.

With the 3 weight reductions, the 200 to ballast isn't a big deal. And more importantly puts the weight where it needs to be (48/52).
That worked for me.

This is pretty much all I did. I just put sport suspension on as I like how it handles. Ceramic breaks and racing pads. All the weight reductions. Adjustable transmission. Ballast to make it more balanced...and aero kit all set to about half and half. I love it! Had no issues with that setup

 

[Pleiades_93]

Yes, it's very possible. Porsche's are certainly a tough beast to break and they can be quite wild but when all of that power and energy are properly harnessed.. Great things happen. I accidentally used one of Praiano's Porsche builds (GT3 RS (991) '16) on the wrong Porsche (Porsche 911 997.2 GT3 RS ’09) but it ended up turning into a true beast at 648pp. Super quick, agile, and sticks to the track like glue with a very responsive handling. Easily became one of my favourites to drive after dominating the porsche cup!

Using a ds4, hard AI, no assists, manual, abs default

Link to build : https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/praianos-tunes-settings-for-gt7.404868/page-4#post-13613237

You are so right! this tune kills, super agile! I used it on my 911 GT3 (996) '01, I feel like spider-man all over these tracks lol

 

[RCKakashi14]

Here's my share, for the Nurburgring race:

 

[SSJHedgehog]

I spent a little money getting it good.
Full downforce front and back.
200 ballast at -50 (making the balance 48/52). (This is important.)

I didn't bother with an LSD computer because I found it wasn't needed. I planned on using it for those 3 races and thats it, the one it came with is fine.
Hight/springs I grabbed only the SPORTS adjustable. And only did that so I could lift the front a little higher then the back.

With the 3 weight reductions, the 200 to ballast isn't a big deal. And more importantly puts the weight where it needs to be (48/52).
That worked for me.

Could you please explain why you want the front higher than the rear? Wouldn't that exacerbate the center of gravity difference even further toward the rear?

 

[demonchilde]

Could you please explain why you want the front higher than the rear? Wouldn't that exacerbate the center of gravity difference even further toward the rear?

Because at the time I posted this there was a weird glitch like thing going on with the ride height. I don't even know if it was fixed yet or not.
A bunch of people here found the same results as I did when testing (back then). Basically having like a 105/100 or something like that seemed to give better turn ins and grips on corners, ect.
Like I said, I don't know if they patched that or fixed it yet. But it worked at the time.