Is the price worth it???

[chinko]

Bad move: The Peugeot 905.
- I was in gotta-have-it-mode, I always wanted the 905 in the GT games, but I now regret the purchase. It's a good handler, but the 2-second wait between gearshifts is nothing short of obnoxious on the straights.

i always liked the 905. its not as bad as the Cien for gearshifts, and still gives the other cars a run for their money on long tracks

 

[Old Geezer]

Yeah, but for nearly 1.5 mil apiece, they sure do seem to be slower than the $500,000 DTM cars.

REALLY???
Then I'd suggest you take one of your DTM Rides to the Gran Turismo World Championship Series! Be sure to let us know how you do....O.G.

BTW: I like the DTM Rides as well Toronado...BUT...remeber this is a Japanese produced game...NO WAY the DTM cars will EVER be better than the JGTC Rides REGARDLESS of cost. JMHO 👍

 

[Corvette]

I can't believe you guys don't like the JGTC cars. My Woodone Toyota Supra is fantastic.

I also love the old Cobras, fun to drive!

You are absolutely right, the JGTC cars are very fun cars to drive. The reason why people don't like them is because they don't have 1200 hp...

 

[Old Geezer]

You are absolutely right, the JGTC cars are very fun cars to drive. The reason why people don't like them is because they don't have 1200 hp...

INDEED! 👍
There's NO Series in the "Game" that requires more than 1000 HP to win! Too many people prefer to substitute HP for Practice. ...O.G.

 

[VVENOM800TT]

Very true Old Geezer.

I just tried driving the Volvo 240, and i must admit, i rather enjoyed driving it on the small tracks, it handles rather well for its 1890kg weight, It just needs some more power, probably some where around 160-175. Other than that it's a nice ride.

 

[superfast]

Vertigo looks cool, super sexy yeah.. (if it was a babe, it'll probably look like britney spears).

If you really want it, get yourself another memory card. Copy your info to the other so that you have two. Then purchase the vertigo. If it doesn't fit you, then you could always dump it.. at least you got a second copy of your original file.

hehe.. haven't tried it though.. don't know if it works.

Whoa, what an idea! It should work, but my other memory card is so damn full...

Good (but still overpriced): Nissan R390 road car.
- Tack on a Stage 2 turbo, and enter the Pro Supercar Races. Take off the turbo after the entry point, go race, and then you can kick butt with less than the silly 500PS/493HP demand for entry. A tiny bit of understeer, but nothing too horrible.

Oh yeah. Stick on any Stage turbo, give it racing brakes, racing medium tires, and a wing for downforce, and it's one of my favorite road cars to date. Oh yeah. Don't forget to do the lightening.

 

[soptom]

It depends on what you mean by "Is it worth it?" I think the Lotus Carlton is a great car to run on road tyres. I have never raced it though so you could argue it isn't worth a jot.
The Speed 12 is great fun too but the Vipers should have been drowned at birth. Each to their own however.

 

[superfast]

The Vipers are fast stock, not to mention even better after being tuned. But as you said, to each their own.

 

[Specialized]

I got the Falken Skyline JGTC admittidly just because i thought it looked cool but then i drove it and i was amazed, the brakes are out of this world!!! its handles great and you can carry a heafty amount of speed into corners too, its a great car for the noob or the pro as it can be forgiving but if you really do push it too far it can get a little hairy and requires a bit of skill to drive. i have found and if you just drive it round a track time after time i have found it nearly impossible to not be able to beat my time before, once you think you have found its limits it opens up a whole new set for you to explore!! deninately worth the money i say!!

Not sure if this counts too but the Fiat Panda! Thats not an expensive car i hear you all cry.......Well i cant remember exactly how much it is but im sure it was 8,000 credits or something! now i dont know about the rest of you but when you hear and see people buying and selling pandas for 50 quid i think that 8,000 is a little much. Now i have never driven one in real life but if they are relatively the same as they are in GT4 then i think that Fiat were onto what could have been one of the most fun cars ever to drive not to mention comedy value,

Conclusion - 2 expensive cars definately worth putting in the good section of your list.

Cheers

 

[superfast]

Isn't the Fiat Panda PAL only? I haven't seen it in the North American version.

 

[Specialized]

Isn't the Fiat Panda PAL only? I haven't seen it in the North American version.

Oh errr. i dont know.I am in england though so i do have a pal version Sorry about that - Well im sure you can trust my judgement

 

[Old Geezer]

Isn't the Fiat Panda PAL only? I haven't seen it in the North American version.

UNfortuantely NTSC has it as well! To be more accurate it should have been badged as a "YUGO" however. ...O.G.

 

[zoxxy]

UNfortuantely NTSC has it as well! To be more accurate it should have been badged as a "YUGO" however. ...O.G.

👎

 

[Netclash]

Interesting topic. 👍

I wonder if it has been done before.


-

Quite simular to my "What car not to buy" thread. , And the conclusion was ; Don't listen to those kind of threads , U may miss fab cars and miss the fun of having a bad car and trying to make it better . Why was my thread so NOT popular

 

[JTSnooks]

So we're doing race cars in here too? Because one of the best is the Viper GTS-R Team Oreca. You can keep up with the prototype cars in it pretty easily!

As for bad cars, the Volvo 240 wagon or whatever it is, but I don't think you can buy it anyway. And definitely add the Fiat Panda to the list.

 

[Southern_Dandy]

As for bad cars, the Volvo 240 wagon or whatever it is, but I don't think you can buy it anyway. And definitely add the Fiat Panda to the list.

Sorry but i have to disagree with that Volvo wagon, throw some snow tires on it and race a friend, let your friend take a much better car, and u should win. Its almost impossible to pass it if u take the turns right. I took my friend in a WRX proto drive in the snow with that wagon. Great fun.

 

[Vr6Fidelity]

I totally disagree with the Pagani Zonda LM That car handles very nicely, and accelerates as fast as the GTP cars almost. I do not have the other pagani's. Just the one from Mission hall.

 

[Elstro]

Here's a car you should not waste money on:-

Eagle Talon ESi '97.

What a lemon!

Also, dont trust the '98 Mercedes SL600. With downforce and the rite set up, this mutha can handle, but boy, it wears out your tyres! I spent too much money on about 6 different tyre sets to stop it wearing them out!

I have had 3 Fiat Pandas - i have tried to make them competitive but they need a few more power upgrades. I like the idea of those sorts of cars in the game, thats what makes GT4 what it is! I was upset by that as i wanted to smoke newer, 'cooler' small cars in a skanky old Panda!

It could be worse, we could have Yugo 45s, FSOs, Ladas and stuff liek that in GT4! WOuldnt that be interesting! Drifiting in a Lada? (You can, in a way - look at the styling of the Datsun 510!)

 

[JTSnooks]

Hmmm...I just re-read the thread, and it's only for expensive cars, so I guess the Panda and Talon and stuff don't quite count. Put the Viper Oreca Racer on there!

 

[Dr_Watson]

why on earth is the NSX on the bad list?
Calling an NSX not worth the price of admission really reqires some sort of explination.

 

[Lemke]

If you lighten the Holden Monero and give it a racing exhaust, its a great car. One of my favorites. Lotus Carlton of course is great. Who ever said the Nissan Falken Race car was brilliant was absolutely correct. That car is a blast to drive. Looks pretty cool to. Has anyone driven the Citeza V16? I never have. Looks pretty cool with 4 headlights.

Almost forgot the Caterham. Cant race it anywhere but what a great car.

 

[Kent]

Bad
Acura NSX
Ford GT
Ford GT Concept
Gillet Vertigo
Nissan R390 GT1 Race Car
Pagani Zonda (yep, all of em)
Panoz Esparante GTR-1
Spyker C8 Laviolette

NSX, GT, R390, Zonda, Spyker... All of those are good cars.

The others don't really float my boat.

However, the GTs are some of the fastest road cars in the game.
The acura NSX is just a honda with a little more weight and a little extra displacement.
The R390 is one of the big four, and in black it looks awesome.
The spyker... Not the best car, but certainly not bad (although I admit, it is a bit over priced).
Finally, the zondas!!!
Whoever said the zondas needs to create a challenge for me so we can really address if they are bad cars or not.

Light weight, super powerful, capable of great things if you ask me.

I suppose this entire thread is just a matter of opinion.

Btw, I'm gonna go run some zonda laps at various tracks, back in about 20 minutes or so.

 

[JTSnooks]

The question isn't if they're good cars or not, it's are they worth the price of admission. In other words, could you spend half as much and get a car that's just as fast and has more potential? For instance, the Viper SRT-10 is about as fast as the Ford GT, has more tuning potential, and is half the price, so why spend so much money on a Ford GT if you have limited funds? It's sort of "if you only have XXX money to spend, buy one of these instead of one of these".

 

[Kent]

The question isn't if they're good cars or not, it's are they worth the price of admission. In other words, could you spend half as much and get a car that's just as fast and has more potential? For instance, the Viper SRT-10 is about as fast as the Ford GT, has more tuning potential, and is half the price, so why spend so much money on a Ford GT if you have limited funds? It's sort of "if you only have XXX money to spend, buy one of these instead of one of these".

Indeed, that is an excellent point.
I suppose my last post was based more on my interest in doing those cars justice, rather than addressing a "bang for the buck" sort of question.

However, one thing I think we need to look at is "desire."
As in, your desire to have that specific car.

For example, who would actually buy an Acura NSX with all those hondas in the game?
Maybe someone who specifically wants an "Acura" instead of a honda.
(I know they are the same thing lol)

Same goes for the Zonda...
The person who buys a zonda (with its amazingly high price) is buying the car for more than just a work-horse.
Chances are, anyone buying a zonda is buying it because they want to drive the V12 super car, not because they have a limited budget and need a great car.

Still... I admit, my post was not based on the topic at hand...
It was more like a knee-jerk reaction to seeing the Zonda on a "bad" list (all of them none the less).

Made me wonder if the zonda had a fair chance at being on the good list in the first place.

btw,
Zonda 7.3 584hp, 1212kg, 2.075 pwr
Oil change
Racing brakes
Semi racing suspension
Weight reduction stage 3
(nothing else)

Test on "The Ring"...
Sports Medium tires: 6'59.???
Super Soft Racing Tires: 6'29.5??

Not exactly great times but for a car with no availible spoiler I would say that's not too bad.
(not to mention the driver wasn't exactly the best)

 

[JTSnooks]

Indeed, I would definitely buy a Zonda just to drive it...that's why I buy nearly all of my cars. And the Zonda definitely isn't a bad car, it's one of the fastest in the game. But for its price, there are better cars I definitely wouldn't have saved up to buy a Zonda as my second car in the game, but I'd buy one now that I can afford it easily. Anyway, anybody know of any other really bad expensive cars not worth the money? Perhaps the Aston Martin V8 Vantage? I actually like the car, but for $200k you can do a LOT better.

 

[niky]

Indeed, I would definitely buy a Zonda just to drive it...that's why I buy nearly all of my cars. And the Zonda definitely isn't a bad car, it's one of the fastest in the game. But for its price, there are better cars I definitely wouldn't have saved up to buy a Zonda as my second car in the game, but I'd buy one now that I can afford it easily. Anyway, anybody know of any other really bad expensive cars not worth the money? Perhaps the Aston Martin V8 Vantage? I actually like the car, but for $200k you can do a LOT better.

And considering that 200,000+++ is for a USED Vantage...

But I've got 3 already...

 

[VVENOM800TT]

Just out of curiosity, can you get the V8 Vantage in Silver? I've been trying to get it in silver but it never shows up in that color.

 

[niky]

I'm pretty sure it should, I've got a blue one, a white one and (thank God I got it!) a Green one (very Brit!)... I'd imagine PD would put in the same colors as in GT3.

 

[Speedy Samurai]

the Pagani Zonda is worth every penny I paid for it. (all 3 of them) Everydy we read from plenty of people who are complaining because of the lack of supercars in GT4 (Lambo, Ferrari, etc) Yet they complain after they pay alot of money for one of the premier supercars on the planet and don't know how to drive it.

Pagani Zonda (any one of them) = fantasticly good

 

[Kent]

Yet they complain after they pay alot of money for one of the premier supercars on the planet and don't know how to drive it.

This statement is so true. 👍

I've come to realize over time that one of the keys to really understanding GT is in "our" ability to adapt.

Many people think they can have a certain driving style.

I disagree simply because every car is different and each car may require a different style of driving.

The Zonda is like this.
Early braking, early gear shifts... Early gas.

Again, very well said Speedy Samurai... Well said indeed. 👍