The Outlaw
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Definitely looking forward to this 👍
Me too. 👍
Does this mean you guys are interested in joining?
Same goes for a few others who have posted in this thread 👍
			
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							Definitely looking forward to this 👍
Me too. 👍
Does this mean you guys are interested in joining?Because if you are, I'd be more than glad to put you down on the entrants list. By this I mean I would disregard the qualifier for you guys, as I know you two are definitely quick enough AFAIC
Same goes for a few others who have posted in this thread 👍
So on the spec sheet for the ZR-1 race, it has the mods that are not allowed, but using everything else would come out to wayyy over 680hp, so I'm guessing we can just do whatever we want to the car to get it to 680?
I'm interested too, this looks awesome. 👍 Never driven the SLS outside of the Merc challenge, but I don't think it should be too much of a problem. I think at least Turbo and maybe Wardez can vouch for my speediness.![]()
Does this mean you guys are interested in joining?Because if you are, I'd be more than glad to put you down on the entrants list. By this I mean I would disregard the qualifier for you guys, as I know you two are definitely quick enough AFAIC
Same goes for a few others who have posted in this thread 👍
OK, I'm confused
Just purchased a new ZR1 since my other one is race modded. Added a bunch of parts (except muffler and transmission) and the specs are sitting at 725hp, 1300Kg (w/19Kg ballast) and 615pp with the aero set to 0/20.
This doesn't match with the specs in the race 1 post for some reason, perhaps because I didn't put stage 3 engine or weight reduction on? Is the room going to be set by PP or weight/hp?
Sign me up for now, let me know what I need to do.
Sign me up for now, let me know what I need to do.
OK, I'm confused
Just purchased a new ZR1 since my other one is race modded. Added a bunch of parts (except muffler and transmission) and the specs are sitting at 725hp, 1300Kg (w/19Kg ballast) and 615pp with the aero set to 0/20.
This doesn't match with the specs in the race 1 post for some reason, perhaps because I didn't put stage 3 engine or weight reduction on? Is the room going to be set by PP or weight/hp?
Even if you have the pace to put in a good lap in qualy, if your driving style is one where you have a tendency of overcooking the tires you will be in BIG trouble once you are a couple of laps into the stint.
Well maybe some of you can give the Round 1 combo a try when you get a chance and give me your opinion on whether you think we should use S3's or R1's.
Regarding the ZR1. You could remove the turbo or engine upgrades from the list. Because they are easy to spot on replays. This is to keep the tourqe numbers down. I totally agree that the car got to much tourqe on the low rpm's.. Shifts won't be as important. On the other hand, you would'nt need to shift that often in a stock ZR1 either for that matter, nor the ACR Viper. A lot of american supercars use a lot of volume to keep maintanance and durability at decent levels. On the other hand, you got the 458 Ferrari with 560 hp from a 4,5 liter engine. To get that amout of hp from such a small engine you need the engine to be able to rew extremely high (for a road going car). As we all know: tourqe * revs = power, POWER is what moves your car. To get a lot of power from an engine with low rpm's, you need tourqe. So in other words, the bigger the volume the less important the gearchoice gets. Compare this with an F1 engine in the middle of the 90's that produced around 800-850 hp from a 3,5 liter engine.. How is this possible?? To get that amout of HP (power) from a 3,5 liter engine you need to make it rev high.. I think the revlimiter on the mid 90's F1's was around 19-20000 rpm's. And on a side note, the tourqe from this F1 engine was not greater than 300 Nm, which is about the same as you get from your everyday car. On the otyher hand, you got the american supercars ZR1 and ACR with a 6,2 l engine producing 638 hp with the help of a compressor and for the ACR a 8,4 l engine that produces 600 hp. If you compare the HP/l you can clearly see what an achievment ferrari did.
Ferrari 458: 560/4,5=125 hp/liter
Corvette ZR1: 638/6,2=103 hp/liter (with a compressor)
Viper ACR: 600/8,4=71hp/liter
To create an engine that produces more than 100hp/liter without a turbo or supercharger is a real achievment. An example, the BMW M3 E46 produces 343 hp from a 3,4 liter engine. making the hp/l end up at 100,8. Or the E60 M5 with a 5 l engine producing 507 hp ends up at 101,4. When looking at these numbers, Ferrari has done an exeptional achievment with the 458. On the down side, the owner need to spend huge amounts of money on maintainance.
really like cars with less tourqe and more revs. I think they are much more fun to drive. With this said, I'd suggest you remove all upgrades that can be policed and see if you coud get the tourqe numbers down.
And regarding the choice of tyres. S3 is (if you compare the skid pad tests) almost race tyre performance. S2 would simulate something like TOYO888's or Michelin PILOT SPORT CUP which are road leagal slicks. The S1's would be more like the most expensive high performance road tyre. Something like the Bridgestone POTENZA or Michelin PILOT SPORT II. But since GT5 does not calculate tyre with when grip is calculated, the choice of tyre could for a car like the ZR1 jump up a step on the latter. If a ZR1 is delivered from the factory with something similar to S1's, the with of the tyres (which is not calculated in GT5) could make the realistic choice in GT5 be an S2 tyre. If you add that we tune the car, I'd say that the S3 is perfect. :tup
And that would be me.
I'm not saying to change tires, in fact I hate race tires. I could count on one hand the number of street cars I have that have slicks on them. I'm fine with the power, just wondering if it will be this insane the whole time.
I did a few laps with this combo earlier. The first 2 laps were hell, but once I came to gripswith how much power it had it became very fun.
I'd say S3's are fine. 👍
Ok, cool. 👍
The qualifier is actually way harder than I expected. After running 140hp Miatas exclusively for almost a month, the SLS is quite a switch.![]()