Israel - Palestine discussion thread

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Blitz24
Not just them. Ben Gvir and Smotrich should have NEVER been allowed to run for their parties. They were arrested for extremism when they were younger.
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I am sure there are far more lunatics in Israeli politics and I defer to your superior knowledge. Just felt that Likud/Netanyahu had to be specifically mentioned as a counterweight to Hamas/Abbas of the post in question.
 
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www.bbc.co.uk

Famine in Gaza City is 'failure of humanity', UN chief says

A UN-backed body confirms famine in Gaza City and surrounding areas, and says half a million are facing "catastrophic" conditions.
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Not sure whether I'm allowed to quip that I've been called worse or not, but...

Anyway, it's a significant step that the UN has recognised it (now that 60% of the population of Gaza is in a "food emergency" according to its own body for classifying such things), although Israel of course is completely denying it against the evidence of quite literally hundreds of aid organisations, including those within Gaza itself - while also threatening to "raze Gaza City" if its demands aren't met.

Just stacking the old war crimes up on top of each other in full knowledge it'll never face any consequences.
 
Fezzik
Targeting journalists.
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Reporters Without Borders records indicate that during a 20-year period from 1955-1975 in Vietnam, 63 journalists were killed or went missing.

Since October 2023, Israeli strikes have killed a minimim of 180 and anywhere up to 240 journalists in just two years.
 
Always amazes me how one sided these threads are
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KevUK
Always amazes me how one sided these threads are
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In what sense?

It doesn't take that much reading to find people condemning atrocities carried out by any party in any conflict, and it's commonly the same people. No atrocity from one party justifies another from the other, nor eliminates it as a consideration.

You'd have to actively ignore it to come away with the impression that it's one-sided in either direction.
 
KevUK
Always amazes me how one sided these threads are
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I don't know, nor care, who these people are if the goal of you posting their picture is to justify Israel feeling they have a right to kill everyone in the region they don't like under the guise of self defense.


Which ironically I suppose gives me something in common with Israel's government.
 
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Oh, we're posting people who were murdered?

apnews.com

The 189 Palestinian journalists killed in the war in Gaza endured hunger and grief

The New York-based Committee to Protect Journalists says 189 Palestinian journalists have been killed in Gaza since the beginning of the war.
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www.reuters.com

Israel hits Gaza hospital, killing at least 20 people, including five journalists

Israel struck Nasser hospital in the south of the Gaza Strip, killing at least 20 people, including five journalists who worked for Reuters, the Associated Press, Al Jazeera and others.
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An Israeli security official with knowledge of the details of that initial inquiry said IDF forces identified a camera on the roof of the hospital that they claimed was being used by Hamas to monitor the Israeli military.


The forces received authorization to strike the camera with a drone, the source said. But instead, Israeli forces fired two tank shells: the first at the camera and the second at rescue forces.


The details of the inquiry are a remarkable admission from an Israeli official that it intentionally targeted the first responders that arrived at the scene after the initial strike.
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Hamas slaughtered innocent civilians in the October attack. The IDF slaughters innocent civilians today, broadcast live on the internet. Both terrorist organisations whose members, leaders and supporters should be held to account.
 
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Famine
In what sense?

It doesn't take that much reading to find people condemning atrocities carried out by any party in any conflict, and it's commonly the same people. No atrocity from one party justifies another from the other, nor eliminates it as a consideration.

You'd have to actively ignore it to come away with the impression that it's one-sided in either direction.
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In the sense you all support inbred Islamic rapist terrorists and hate Jews.
 
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KevUK
In the sense you all support inbred Islamic rapist terrorists and hate Jews.
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Now read the rest of my post.

Again, you don't have to go back very far at all to see the same people condeming Israel for its latest war crime also condemning Hamas for its terrorist attacks, and you are having to actively ignore it to come to this conclusion. I've been called a Zionist before in this thread (and, on a quick glance, "biased against Hamas") from someone just as polarised as you on the other side of it.

Now let's try again without the pointless insults shall we? Have another read of the Acceptable Use Policy on your way through; it's not your opinion that'll get you disinvited from the site per your claim, but the way you insult other people in expressing it.
 
KevUK
In the sense you all support inbred Islamic rapist terrorists and hate Jews.
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Tell me you don’t understand the difference between Jews & the Israel State without telling me you don’t understand.

Why are so many people getting this so wrong on both sides of this horror show?

It’s not Jews vs Muslims

It’s not even Palestine vs Israel

It’s Zionists vs Hamas, both of which have committed atrocities and war crimes and have been using innocent lives to justify their means. It’s just one has a much bigger stick and support from King Dorito.
 
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What I find increasingly disturbing (and disgusting) is Israel's disingeneous response to its own atrocities - the double bombing of the hospital yesterday being a case in point.

Israel officially described it as a 'tragic mishap' - and yet, like 9/11, it was clearly designed to convey a message - this was on purpose.

Bombing rescuers is a clear war crime (as if bombing a hospital isn't...), but it's alot worse than that. This is the very same suicide bomber strategy employed to such devastating effect in Iraq, Syria and elsewhere, where the real targets of a bombing are those who respond. It's a filthy and disgusting practice, and it's very much done on purpose.

So, for Israel to declare a double bombing like this as a 'tragic mishap' is not only false, it's deliberately so - they want their opponents to know that they can and will do this until they achieve their aims, and - perhaps more importantly, no-one will stop them.
 
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KevUK
In the sense you all support inbred Islamic rapist terrorists and hate Jews.
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Muslims and Jews have the same mental disability. Christians too. Heck, I'm just going to go out on a limb, and say most theistic religions.

I'm not sure if any others are soooo god-damned obsessed with foreskin though, but I don't fancy googling it... might put me off my Hula-Hoops.
 
KevUK
Always amazes me how one sided these threads are
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"Genuine tragedies in the world are not conflicts between right and wrong. They are conflicts between right and right.” ― Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel

Except in this case, it's the conflict between wrong and wrong.
 
KevUK
In the sense you all support inbred Islamic rapist terrorists and hate Jews.
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lol
LeMansAid
These days it looks like most of the opinions coming from anyone "right"-leaning are effectively just "drive by shootings" with no actual substance to the "shots".
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lmao

I mean that may be the case, but upon whom should the blame be placed?
 

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