Italian Avant Garde

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i still need to do the Italian Avant Garde race and i want to know how to tune the Zonda C12s so it doesn't slide so much.
 
Just use the Zonda Race Car. Its much easier IMO.
 
i'll try to get that. BTW you sure do know what woman to kidnap if i say so myself lol
 
To reduce sliding on the C12:

- Increase Spring Rate to the Right :up:
- Decrease Ride Height :down:
- Increase Camber :up:
- Increase Stabiliser :up:
- Increase Brake Balance

You can make front rear adjustments to reduce Understeer/Oversteer :teleport: There is a guide somewhere about that :D
 
would i be better off trying this race with a C12s or the Pagani Race Car (yes i know that you win the Pagani race car in this)?
 
I did it with the C12S (won the races that is!).

After all the trepidation I had about going up against a field full of race Zondas it was something of a let-down in that they were easy prey! Don't sweat it. Get your C12S set-up to your taste in a max tuned kind of way and you'll eat them for breakfast.

If you actually want a challenge then back off on the Horse Power (via a few non-saved test runs) until you're not leaving them so far behind that they're in the previous series!
 
I really hated that series, Even though those Zondas look awesome...they don't handle that great, plus, they're not too easy on the tires
 
Originally posted by viperguy
would i be better off trying this race with a C12s or the Pagani Race Car (yes i know that you win the Pagani race car in this)?
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The Race Car. Hell thats what the competition is driving.
 
Too bad you can't change the images viper_maniac... more swimsuit shots would be nice...
 
Originally posted by chris00764
Too bad you can't change the images viper_maniac... more swimsuit shots would be nice...
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Well I could if I wanted too. I might change some of the images sometime soon. ;)
 
I really think you should... i mean the pictures are good and all... but some more skin never hurts
 
Originally posted by chris00764
I really think you should... i mean the pictures are good and all... but some more skin never hurts
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Oh I will try to find some more skin. :D
 
Too work the Handling bugs out of the C12S: Set spring rates to 9.0 and 6.0. front and rear respectively.
Then play with the ride height until the car is barely making sparks over the rumble strips. If you're understeering lower the front or raise the rear. If oversteering. do the opposite.
Set the brakes at about 14 front and 12 rear. Play with the gearing so you nearly top sixth at the end of the long straight. That will give you the acceleration to outstrip the racers. This is for the fully modded (HP wise) car.
Hope this helps, Good luck.
 
i'm happy to report that i was able to get the Pagani Zonda Race Car, and i beat the race. thanks everyone :D
 
hey vipermaniac, did you ever find more skin pics for your avator?
 
Really more of a mistake in the program than commentary on the race, but it is on the Avant Garde screen...

Maybe this has previously been mentioned, but have you noticed the misprint on the screen that shows your trophies in the little circles? :Privateey

I believe it is the white print on the black banner that reads "Avant Grade". Nice job on the proofing! :glasses: :rolleyes:

Is this error on all versions, or just the U.S. version?
 
Yeah, the Professional League shows the races as "Italian Avant Grade", even though the graphic of the race has it spelled correctly (in some freaky font that makes the A look like an R anyway)...

I just did these races last night in the C12S I got from the Pro/NA races. The first (Rome Circuit) was won somewhat easily, as all opponents pitted after their 9th lap. The second, however, was a pain in the ass (Rome Circuit II), as the field DID NOT pit... It took me 3 attempts before I finally won the 2nd race...

I wanted to spend as little as possible upgrading the C12S, so that it would barely win. I did a bit of test driving, and found that all I needed were the NA Tune-up/Stage 1, Transmission/Sports, and Sports Tires. Actually, it seemed that the Sports Tranny was only needed for the 2nd race, as pit strategy accounts mostly for the win of the 1st one...

But this wasn't all I needed. With some "creatively reckless" driving (wall-riding & crash-turning), You can make laps for both tracks around 1.21.XXX (barely good enough for the pole (1 qualifying lap))... in a car that has 48 hp less than the others. This isn't too much of a big deal for the first race, where everyone else pits, but it played a HUGE role for the 2nd (where I felt the need to qualify). My margin of victory for Rome II was around 3 seconds.

Rome II was such a tight race I saved the replay. If anyone wants some info on which turns are better to take "unrealistically", lemme know and I'll make another post. Just keep in mind that some turns are taken better legitimately.

The reasons I used the C12S are that I didn't want to give up a better prize car from the place I would've won the Zonda Race Car (Endurance/Passage to Colosseo), and I was actually looking forward to this match-up. Maybe if they came in different colors and/or numbers, I'd feel different.

So, it's possible to beat the ZRC's with the C12S without being fully modded... Once I freed myself from the "afraid to crash" mindset, the line became clear to me...

Here are the settings for the C12S, and the race results (since the ZRC's are indistinguishable, I don't know if the #2 starter ended 6th or 5th etc., and I haven't watched the replay for Rome II yet)...

Zonda C12S: + NA Tune-up/Stage 1 (-5000); + Transmission/Sports (-5800); + Sports Tires (-6500) = 17300 Cr spent
Settings: Default [Gear Ratios: 1=3.271; 2=2.164; 3=1.564; 4=1.186; 5=0.945; 6=0.790; 7=----; F=3.429 | Downforce: F=0.29; R=0.47 | ASM=10 | TCS=5]

Day 81
Professional/Italian Avant Garde: 10 Laps @ Rome Circuit
[Finishing Position] (Starting Position) Vehicle = Total Race Time [best lap] (qualifying time, if any)
[1] (6) Zonda C12S = 14.04.228 [best lap 1.22.067]
[2] (1) Zonda Race Car = 14.07.481
[3] (2) Zonda Race Car = 14.08.306
[4] (3) Zonda Race Car = 14.09.182
[5] (4) Zonda Race Car = 14.11.449
[6] (5) Zonda Race Car = 14.12.117
I did not pit for this race. The AI pitted after their 9th lap (before they started their 10th). The C12S started with 0.0 mi and 603 hp, and ended with ~25 mi and 603 hp.

Day 82
Professional/Italian Avant Garde: 10 Laps @ Rome Circuit II
[Finishing Position] (Starting Position) Vehicle = Total Race Time [best lap] (qualifying time, if any)
[1] (1) Zonda C12S = 13.53.458 [best lap 1.21.560] (1.21.560)
[2] (2) Zonda Race Car = 13.56.698 (1.21.648)
[3] (3) Zonda Race Car = 13.57.591 (1.21.675)
[4] (4) Zonda Race Car = 14.00.157 (1.21.760)
[5] (5) Zonda Race Car = 14.00.259 (1.22.605)
[6] (6) Zonda Race Car = 14.02.468 (1.22.620)
NOBODY pitted for this race. The C12S started with ~25 mi and 603 hp, and ended with 50.5 mi and 603 hp.

Hope this helps others trying to beat the ZRCs in the "Nice looking hunk o' junk"... the C12S. Have a great drive, everyone!

Hazzard
 
Originally posted by viperguy
talk about a revived thread.
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LOL. Yeah, actually, I was doing some looking up on the C12S for settings and stuff, and found that most of the other people who used it blew major cash on it (I remember doing so for my first gamesave as well). It seemed a lot of people, including myself, had a not-so-easy time finding a way to beat this one out, especially with the C12S. Well, I figured if/when I finally finished the race I'd post what I found on this thread.

This thread was the most recent one, and the mis-spelling issue gave a good lead in for the rest of the blah blah blah I posted... I didn't want to start yet another thread on this issue...

But I wish I could've seen the provocative avatar everyone was talking about (viper_maniac's old one I guess)... :)

Anyway, have a great drive, viperguy!

Hazzard
 
thanks roadhazzard!! you have a kickin' drive yourself. Viper_maniac's avatar we were chattin' about was a pic of jennifer lopez and his title was"j-lo's future kiddnapper"
 
Another seemingly Typo is the for the spelling of the Opel Calibra Turing Car when it is in your garage list. it reads: "Caribra Touring Car"
 
Originally posted by viperguy
thanks roadhazzard!! you have a kickin' drive yourself. Viper_maniac's avatar we were chattin' about was a pic of jennifer lopez and his title was"j-lo's future kiddnapper"
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i believe it used to be Jessica Alba. :lol:
 
hmm... think i might upgrade to a stage 2 N/A and not crash my way around when i do it. I tried it with a no modded c12s and was left eating dust :(
 

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