It's a real torture to race in tracks like St. Croix type A

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How PD lost its remarkable ability to create tracks inspired by the best fantasy circuits of the past is a real mystery…
The aspiring track design team at PD — I call them the “Drunk Hermann Tilke” crew — gave us such controversial circuits as "St. Croissant".
"St. Croissant" A is a real ordeal, full of straights and 90-degree (or sharper) corners that test your nervous system…
Even I, who wasn’t a great track designer back in GT6, would have created much better circuits…
Let alone the many talented GT7 users out there...
A advanced track tool would be a solution in our problems...
 
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You can't be greek and confuse a crescent with a cross. Seriously... > Sainte-Croix <

Yet I agree, this track is unimpressive and quite boring. I fail to learn it properly, it is too repetitive as well as long. It's a shame because this place from the real world they chose to make a racetrack on is very beautiful.
If they can't change the layout, they could at least make an effort to improve signage around the circuit.
 
They're just really hard to learn.

There are so many layouts, plus the reverse versions, and (as with Lago Maggiorre) you have sections which can be mixed and matched, makes for a bit of an ordeal!

I think they missed a trick in not making the corners more memorable, because many sections look exactly the same to me. It doesn't happen quite as badly at Lago M.

I think with some small adjustments, there could be a good racetrack there.
 
benjoi84
They're just really hard to learn.

There are so many layouts, plus the reverse versions, and (as with Lago Maggiorre) you have sections which can be mixed and matched, makes for a bit of an ordeal!

I think they missed a trick in not making the corners more memorable, because many sections look exactly the same to me. It doesn't happen quite as badly at Lago M.

I think with some small adjustments, there could be a good racetrack there.
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Indeed. As I said, a better signage could do the trick, as could adding an old building here, a cliff or a bank there, or a notable tree somewhere else. There are plenty of ways to make this track more memorable.
 
Bits of it remind me of Le Mans and La Sarthe (place, not just the circuit) but then that might just be France. I tend to stick to either Normandy/Mediterranean/Paris when in France so this might just look like all of central France
 
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The track corners are little uncomfortable to take that don't at feel coherent. You can get better at with practice but it doesnt make them good it just means you learned to handle it.

The final half of St. Croix C and A are especially bad. Its a bit of a shame as I do like the idea of 90 degree corners so wide you can take them faster than others, but the sequence of them feels so wrong

However, St. Croix B avoids a lot of the weird frustrating corners and is actually really good to drive through. I would say St. Croix B is a good track.
 
I actually enjoy each variant of Sainte Croix and use the longest of them (B?) for testing race cars outside of Le Mans and Spa-Francorchamps.
Sophy races are good here.

The scenery could do with some variety as it does have an air of Track Creator about it.
 
Scuderia Paul
I actually enjoy each variant of Sainte Croix and use the longest of them (B?) for testing race cars outside of Le Mans and Spa-Francorchamps.
Sophy races are good here.

The scenery could do with some variety as it does have an air of Track Creator about it.
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The C variant is the longest which is just under 11km. I love this track & have many a times ran custom races on reverse C variant. I used to spend more than an hour racing here. I think it's a fun track & prefer it to more traditional tracks in the game.
 
Yeah St Croix is a waste. Doesn't resemble any real circuit. Has some good corners but otherwise just looks like they got the set squares out and called it a day.
 
I don't believe they've created a single brilliant track since the GT4 days, and even then, they shone because of their setting - Citta Di Aria, Costa Di Amalfi and El Capitan.

Sardegna Road and Dragon Trail are memorable, but Lago Maggiore and Kyoto wouldn't be missed if they were swapped out for Midfield and Apricot Hill.
 
jonoholland29
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Yep. It's really not that great a track, blast .... brake... blaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaast etc then the last sector is a chicanefest.
VXR
Sardegna Road and Dragon Trail are memorable, but Lago Maggiore and Kyoto wouldn't be missed if they were swapped out for Midfield and Apricot Hill.
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I don't look at it like that, LM and Kyoto are really good tracks, happy to add Apricot Hill and Midfield but i'd dump Alsace and St Croix not those two.
 
NevilleNobody
Yep. It's really not that great a track, blast .... brake... blaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaast etc then the last sector is a chicanefest.

I don't look at it like that, LM and Kyoto are really good tracks, happy to add Apricot Hill and Midfield but i'd dump Alsace and St Croix not those two.
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But Le Mans is a real track and a very famous one, so it must stay.

I agree to replace St Croix et Alsace, that are quircky and arcady looking "french" tracks, I'd love another city track.
 
VXR
I don't believe they've created a single brilliant track since the GT4 days, and even then, they shone because of their setting - Citta Di Aria, Costa Di Amalfi and El Capitan.

Sardegna Road and Dragon Trail are memorable, but Lago Maggiore and Kyoto wouldn't be missed if they were swapped out for Midfield and Apricot Hill.
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Dragon Trail Seaside is as good as the GT4 tracks.
 
NevilleNobody
Oh 100%, yeah I wouldn't bin it but I don't enjoy it.
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What is wrong with you LeMans is the greatest track known to man and it is just perfect. 🤣🤣🤣J/k TBH although LeMans is my favorite track I can understand where you are coming from the last sector of LeMans is not my favorite part of the track.
 
NevilleNobody
Yep. It's really not that great a track, blast .... brake... blaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaast etc then the last sector is a chicanefest.
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I mean I think Mulsanne through to the chicanes is just a unique and superb piece of road/race track if I'm honest. If you can take the entry into Indianapolis well and the Porsche/Karting curves at high speed you gain a lot of time - We'll have to agree to disagree.

To keep it slightly on topic, the only bit that is a good challenge is the corners immediately before and after the suspension bridge at St. Croix. The rest is pretty forgettable.
 

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