JGTC S4 Round 1 Race + Results

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Round 1
Track : Apricot Hill Raceway - 3.86km
Deadline : December 3 @ 8:00PM EST
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RULES : Standard online racing rules for clean racing applied when ever possible.

Race :

Minimum of 2 wheels on track
Rumble strips are part of the track
No intentional AI contact
No wall riding
No wall touching
No short cutting
No cheating of any kind


Since this is a semi-enduro format (between 40-45 mins) we can’t really ask for 100% error free races. But you must still follow the same basic rules layed down for qualifications and use them when ever possible. Since you are racing with other AI cars little incident may occur and result in an excursion off the track, those are normal racing battles. Passing another car should always be done with caution and fair play just like in real life.



SETTINGS

I will ask you to follow me step by step for the settings so that everything is clear and understood by everyone.

GT4 Main Menu ---> Options ---> Arcade

No. Of Laps : 32
Tire Wear : Strong
Driving Aids : None
Penalty : Forced Pit Entry
Time Limit : None


GT4 Main Menu ---> Arcade Mode ---> Single Race ---> Select Track ---> Choose Your Car

Driving Options

Transmission : Your Choice
Driving Aids : None
Tires : Racing Medium (really important, the AI must start on RM tires)
Difficulty : +10


Quick Tune-Up

Power : Enter The Given Number
Weight : Enter The Given Number
Top Speed : Your choice
Driving Aids : None
Transmission : Your Choice
Tyre Type : Racing
Front Tires : RH, RM, RS
Rear Tires : RH, RM, RS

*RSH and RSS tires are banned this season, a driver getting caught using any of those will get an automatic disqualification for the event*


START THE RACE



TIME SENDING FORMAT

Send your time + replays to eatsviper4lunch@gmail.com
No replays use only GTP PM's

Team :
Driver Name :

Car No. :
Car :
Power :
Weight :

Total Time :
Best Lap :
Pitting Resume : (lap info, tire set used, penalties)



POINTS REWARD

1st : 14pts
2nd : 11pts
3rd : 9pts
4th : 7pts
5th : 6pts
6th : 5pts
7th : 4pts
8th : 3pts
9th : 2pts
10th : 1pt

Fastest Lap : 1pt for the top 3



WEIGHT PENALTY

1st +5% 2nd +3% 3rd +1%
4th/5th/6th : 0
7th/8th : -1%
9th/10th : -2%
11th and lower : -3%



AIR RESTRICTOR

The winning driver will have a -1% hp air restrictor penalty in place for the next round. This penalty will be in effect for the next 3 races and then dropped after that determined period of time. Exp : A driver winning R3 will get -1% hp for rounds 4-5-6 and on R7 he'll see his power come back to normal. A driver winning again in that 3 races penalty period will gain another -1% hp but the 3 races period won't be resetted like in the past to 3. The longest a penalty (-1%) will hit will be 3 races.
 
Well, here we go! Track time track time track time! 👍

Round 1 halfway done! On with the rest of Season 3!

Oh, and Eats, I definitely like the fact that the AI start on RM tires... Gives me a chance to whittle through them a heck of a lot better than me on RMs and them on RS tires... Now I can reverse that to get out a bit before I have to pit. Thanks!
 
Excellent! I'll get onto this later tonight. Good luck everyone.
 
I've my gearing and tire changes and laps figured out... Had a decent safe race going until I went wide on the second to last lap... Tapped the wall and figured I'd get penalized so I was trying to carry as much speed as I could before it took the car over and forced it into the pits. Only it didn't, and I slammed into the wall. And then was forced into the pits on the final lap. Finished the race in the pits, lol. Oh well, I'll be spending more time on it anyway.
 
eatsviper4lunch
Yup, Apricot Hill Raceway.

Something not right?
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Sorry eats, I had a serious brain fart there, must have eaten too much turkey over the holiday. I had hoped to get it edited before you saw it. I was in bed nearly asleep when I realized what I had asked you, so I got up, went to the computer and made my edit. All's good, no worries!!
 
Well, started this morning
getting 8 laps on the RM's, about what I figured.
Still way to slow...sigh
might not have the gearing right...who knows :dunce:
 
I was wondering if you could explain the pitting resume thing... I understand that you want to know what tires your putting on but is the lap info just what lap you pitted on and what are the penalties about. Also when does the weight penalty system start and does that last for one race or is it indefinite?

Bri Y
 
Like:
L1-L6 : RS/RS, L7-L12 : RS/RS, etc,etc.

It lets an experienced steward check tyre wear settings.

Neil
 
The weight penalty stays with you indefinitely. Unless you do so badly that you lose weight. Or if you do well again, you may gain more weight.
 
Thanks for the answers guys! I did some serious tire testing today and got a decent run in as well... Sadly not getting 8 laps on the mediums but I did have the soft tires on the rear and they went out a bit sooner then the fronts but I think we've got the strategy figured out.

Has anyone run any laps with the softs yet? I can run 13's with them but only getting 5 laps might just make it useless. Anyone think a 12 is possible?

Bri Y
 
well, got a banker in
3 stopper ... fastest lap is quicker than my qual ...which isn't saying much...LOL

I'll be way behind, considering the qual run. Ran pretty consitant laps, until lap 27, then the traffic really hit :grumpy: had a couple of laps that the AI was just messing with me. Pass one and have to pass another the next lap :grumpy:

Might be able to re-run this one, but I've got to spend some time in the LMS series:tup: ... time to wind up the "squirrel" and see if I can catch that dreaded Mazda !
 
'Hint','Hint'

Go into GT mode, pull up the car in your garage (in stock settings)
Go into the garage and highlight the power/torque graph, press 'x'

Find on the graph where in the rev range the best compromise between peak power (Hp) and peak torque (Nm) is.
Go back to arcade mode,
Then in time-trial, adjust the gears till the rev counter tops out at 80-90% of the revs for peak Hp at the end of the longest straight on the track we are using (Defaults at FULL tank fuel) with no drafting.
Then, have a look at the corners in the race and see if you are anywhere near the compromise figure at the apexes of the corners onto straights.

If the revs at the end of the straight are right, and the apex figures are close, you're done!
Adjust by single steps until you get a good compromise for the track.

Bare in mind that sometimes you will have to sacrifice revs at the end of the straight, for more available torque at the apexes.


So endeth the lesson!

Neil
 
Couldn't have said it better myself Neil :)

I've put in a banker run, not terribly exciting. Overall a solid race but 2 spins cost me about 10-15 seconds. I'll try to put another one in, but I'm on a plane on Friday night and I probably won't be able to run again on Saturday/Sunday.

Gonna have to live without my DFP for a short while. Oh for a single season without that little problem :lol:
 
Can't get through the 32 laps without having to pit 4 times, I can get ever so close to making it but the RH's just deteriorate with a couple of laps to go. So I'm currently using a mix between RH's and RM's throughout the race.

I can quite easily run faster laps than my qualifying laps (current fastest at 14.9 on RM's) And I think my fastest RH lap (16.6) is my limit. So all that is left to do is start becoming more consistent. I'm aiming to keep all laps within 0.5 of the fastest lap on their respectable tires, not including pit laps and out laps of course.
 
I got a pretty darn good banker the other day and I have since adjusted my top speed one notch and it improved my lap times a tick but I'm getting really frustrated with the stupid ai... The last two times I raced I was blazing through and was easily going to beat my banker when I come up out of a turn and slam an ai who has stayed out too long on his **** tires, totally ruining my run! I just got done with one and I was on pace to beat my banker by 8 seconds when out of the sweeping left hander I slam into a dead stopped and sideways Ford GT! I was so pissed because I had my soft tires on and the lap before was my fastest on the track 1'12.5xx sigh... We'll give it another go on Saturday.

Bri Y
 
Time submitted. I won't get another chance this week, I'm on a plane tomorrow evening. Good luck everyone 👍
 
mullen_power13
Can't get through the 32 laps without having to pit 4 times, I can get ever so close to making it but the RH's just deteriorate with a couple of laps to go. So I'm currently using a mix between RH's and RM's throughout the race.

I can quite easily run faster laps than my qualifying laps (current fastest at 14.9 on RM's) And I think my fastest RH lap (16.6) is my limit. So all that is left to do is start becoming more consistent. I'm aiming to keep all laps within 0.5 of the fastest lap on their respectable tires, not including pit laps and out laps of course.
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OMG!

I thought I was doing bad only getting 11 laps out of mediums! :sly: Looking at either a one or two stopper for me! :D

No joke!

Neil
 
mullen_power13
Can't get through the 32 laps without having to pit 4 times, I can get ever so close to making it but the RH's just deteriorate with a couple of laps to go. So I'm currently using a mix between RH's and RM's throughout the race.

I can quite easily run faster laps than my qualifying laps (current fastest at 14.9 on RM's) And I think my fastest RH lap (16.6) is my limit. So all that is left to do is start becoming more consistent. I'm aiming to keep all laps within 0.5 of the fastest lap on their respectable tires, not including pit laps and out laps of course.
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I'm using a mix of RM's and RS's myself just to staty on the track!:scared: And thus far with one attempt at the race under my belt, my best is a 17.5 on RS-RS. I guess you're a mucho better driver than I am. ^_^' I'll just keep plugging away so that I can control the car better and get faster times. ;)
 
Hot damn Neil!? What's your fastest lap on an 11 lap tire set?!

Drift or die, dayum you're running some fast laps...

I'll be getting back to racing here in a bit. Yay!

I might try some of these harder tire strategies, see what comes up...
 
Hey Bttw,that was a really good joke...11 laps on medium...:dunce: take a look at your tyre wear settings!
I tried the race with RH's with one pit,can get only 13 laps out of them,so need to pitted twice and I was so goddamn slow...:yuck:
I will try everything to stop the LMS-like situation,I will hunt you down you Comedy racers!!!:mad:
 
I thought the Takata NSX was supposed to have very good tire longevity, but I'm not getting anywhere near the amount of laps out of my tires compared to you guys. Maybe I'm just pushing too hard because my lap times are lacking...or maybe I just suck at trying to conserve the tires, it's probably both :lol:. How are you other NSX racers finding the tire wear?

If things stay the way they are I'm not going to expect my entry to be anywhere near the top half of the competition.
 
GTXDriver
Hey Bttw,that was a really good joke...11 laps on medium...:dunce: take a look at your tyre wear settings!
I tried the race with RH's with one pit,can get only 13 laps out of them,so need to pitted twice and I was so goddamn slow...:yuck:
I will try everything to stop the LMS-like situation,I will hunt you down you Comedy racers!!!:mad:
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No joke! Really!
Tyre wear settings haven't moved off 'STRONG' since I started S2!

I can get 11 laps out of mediums, the last lap is a little iffy in the last half lap cos the fronts are bright red, but I can complete the lap and only lose 3-4 seconds.

KLR142
Hot damn Neil!? What's your fastest lap on an 11 lap tire set?!
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If I remember correctly the fastest lap in the race I did last night was a 15.4xx.
All laps from L2-L10 are within about half a second.
In the lead by T3 on the first lap.

Tip for those struggling with tyre-wear!

I NEVER use full brakes!
I listen to the sound the tyres make under braking, and the optimum braking point is where they sort of make a very quiet warbling sound as the ABS 'just' starts to kick in.

Even into the hairpin, I only use 75% brakes, and during the rest of the lap I barely touch them and rely on engine braking.
In the first two corners on this track, I maybe have 5-10% brakes on and drop through the box steadily, not all at once.

The main thing that has driven me to trying a 1 or 2 stop race, is that each pitstop is 45 seconds and therefor worth 1.5 seconds per lap!
That means if I do a 2 stopper and 'you' do a 4 stopper.......'you' will have to run 3 seconds a lap faster than me to beat me!

I'm averaging only 1-1.5 seconds slower than in qualifying, so 'you' would have to consistantly run 1.5 seconds FASTER than pole.

I know that sounds like I am bragging, and I suppose I am a little. But the ability to drive smoothly enough and consistantly enough to get the number of laps I do, has taken a long time to gain. And I am fairly proud of it!

Neil
 
mullen_power13
I thought the Takata NSX was supposed to have very good tire longevity, but I'm not getting anywhere near the amount of laps out of my tires compared to you guys. Maybe I'm just pushing too hard because my lap times are lacking...or maybe I just suck at trying to conserve the tires, it's probably both :lol:. How are you other NSX racers finding the tire wear?

If things stay the way they are I'm not going to expect my entry to be anywhere near the top half of the competition.
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I get 5 laps out of softs, and 7 laps out of mediums. Lol. I can get 8 out of mediums if I try hard enough. In my testing it had the best front tire wear, and the worst front grip... But if you're not smooth(and it IS kind of hard to keep this thing from sliding under lift throttle and braking), it's definitely hard on the tires. If I could keep from sliding and stay off the grass and curbs I'm sure I could pick up an additional lap each, so 6 and 9. And then reducing the braking effect (like mister tire saver master Neil here....) might be able to squeeze out another lap? Braking in a straight line is quite important on this car for tire life.

But when I was playing last night I tried slightly to make the tires last longer, and wasn't having much success. I was kind of tired though and wasn't able to keep the sliding much in check.

I should have some decent time tonight to give everything a better whirl. I'm one who likes to push it all the time, so I'm not normally easy on tires. My current strategy is a 5 pit one... I can think of a 4 pit one, and that might be just about the same speed, maybe a little faster if I'm more consistent, except for when I get into the mix with the AI. There's just not enough front grip on this biatch. Then again, I'll be slower because I'm trying to save the tires. I dunno. Time and playing will tell.
 
Ballstothewall
The main thing that has driven me to trying a 1 or 2 stop race, is that each pitstop is 45 seconds and therefor worth 1.5 seconds per lap!
That means if I do a 2 stopper and 'you' do a 4 stopper.......'you' will have to run 3 seconds a lap faster than me to beat me!
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First of all, thank you for figuring out how long a pit stop adds to your race time, and second of all, YOU SUCK! :p :p :p Slow down! Haha.

Actually, if my calculations and memory are correct, I'm just around(probably over) a minute off of your pace. And that was on a not perfectly consistent(although it wasn't too bad) race where I slammed into the wall on the second to last lap and finished the race in the pits, so I'm capable of maybe 10-20 seconds faster than that...? That was a 5 pit strategy as well. So, actually, I think your pitstop time length is actually a bit longer than it actually is, because I KNOW I didn't manage an average pace of 1'13.5 laps in that race.
 
That 45 seconds a pitstop includes the in-lap and out-lap (5 seconds each) that you will see if you work it out.
And the figures are pretty much solid. Drew and I worked it all out to the n'th degree last season and through the DTM series.
The pitstop actual is about 35 seconds pit-entry(pit-board coming up) to pit-exit (START coming up)

Some variance is afforded by the length of the pit-lane and the entry to the pits.
But the rest is solid!

Neil
 
1'13.5 average?:crazy:
Hey,you really push hard!
My only problem is NOT to be so goddamn fast and watch the splits to keep them about the same.Or just a little bit faster as the fuel runs out and the car becomes lighter,because it is the key of the good results.If you spare the wheels,you spare with the pits too,if not,you can run more laps on a harder compound and then you got the chance to end the race with a light and fast car on softer tires than before and you'll be fast.That's what I am working on.Did the race four times with different strategies,one looks better than the other three.Tomorrow I will try to gain some more speed on the track.👍
I'm very sorry that we can't calibrate the fuel level in the cars...it would be great to be fast from the beginning.💡
 
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