Joke's on us. PD is laughing.

[The Bman]

For crying out loud, if you are going to defend the game come up with some reasoning. Don't just say something like, "OMG U CRITICIZE THE GAME U WHINER!!!!", it makes you look dumb. Come up with reasons why you are defending the game, rather than acting like a mindless zombie praising every last thing about GT5. It has it's share of flaws, notably the crappy AI and bias towards Japanese cars.

The OP has many great points. Like he said, look at Simraceway, they add a variety of content on a weekly basis! What does PD do? Wait 2-6 months so they can release another Nissan GT-R that is already in the game.

 

[jimipitbull]

For crying out loud, if you are going to defend the game come up with some reasoning. Don't just say something like, "OMG U CRITICIZE THE GAME U WHINER!!!!", it makes you look dumb. Come up with reasons why you are defending the game, rather than acting like a mindless zombie praising every last thing about GT5. It has it's share of flaws, notably the crappy AI and bias towards Japanese cars.

The OP has many great points.

If I feel a game is good, then I have no reason to defend it. I will just keep playing it, holding very little regard for your negativity.

Asia/oceania produce over 50% of the cars in the world each year. PD seem to have followed a similar percentage.

95% of car drivers in real life seem to have low intelligence, that is why there are so many road accidents and fatalities. There are volvos in the game if you are worried about this sort of thing.

 

[Earth]

Asia/oceania produce over 50% of the cars in the world each year. PD seem to have followed a similar percentage.

Distribution of cars, Forza 4 vs Gran Turismo

Source

 

[FosterG]

Put these in PD!








People have a right to complain if they are not satisfied, the competition is getting further and further ahead and the response is a track and one car???!!! PD you are better than that.

 

[Tornado]

If I feel a game is good, then I have no reason to defend it. I will just keep playing it, holding very little regard for your negativity.

That's a very interesting position to take as someone who has made 4 posts in this thread doing nothing but complaining about it.

 

[jimipitbull]

That's a very interesting position to take as someone who has made 4 posts in this thread doing nothing but complaining about it.

I suppose I am an interesting character, and I think you will find I am responding to posts that are responding to my posts.
It's a viscous circle.

 

[FosterG]

For crying out loud, if you are going to defend the game come up with some reasoning. Don't just say something like, "OMG U CRITICIZE THE GAME U WHINER!!!!", it makes you look dumb. Come up with reasons why you are defending the game, rather than acting like a mindless zombie praising every last thing about GT5. It has it's share of flaws, notably the crappy AI and bias towards Japanese cars.

The OP has many great points. Like he said, look at Simraceway, they add a variety of content on a weekly basis! What does PD do? Wait 2-6 months so they can release another Nissan GT-R that is already in the game.

 

[dhandeh]

What's done is done. The game is flawed in areas, we know all know that. The real lesson will be learned when Gt6 is released. If that has similar failings then PD really haven't got a clue.

 

[mikecustom]

If I feel a game is good, then I have no reason to defend it. I will just keep playing it, holding very little regard for your negativity.

Asia/oceania produce over 50% of the cars in the world each year. PD seem to have followed a similar percentage.

95% of car drivers in real life seem to have low intelligence, that is why there are so many road accidents and fatalities. There are volvos in the game if you are worried about this sort of thing.

3 volvos out of a 1000 cars, and i dont understand this ''stop whining'' thing, if something is bad, i'll complain till i see it fixed, GT5 has more flaws than good stuff,

PD needs to give the project to another developer or just retire and finish with the GT series, if they keep making games, they'll just continue embarrassing themselves more and more and there won't be any dignity and no respect left for them

 

[CodeRedR51]

Like he said, look at Simraceway, they add a variety of content on a weekly basis! What does PD do? Wait 2-6 months so they can release another Nissan GT-R that is already in the game.

Simraceway = PC game

GT = console game

If you guys want weekly updates, go there.

Put these in PD!

This is NOT a wishlist thread.

 

[Tornado]

PD needs to give the project to another developer or just retire and finish with the GT series, if they keep making games, they'll just continue embarrassing themselves more and more and there won't be any dignity and no respect left for them

...



One game constitutes proof of this?

 

[jimipitbull]

3 volvos out of a 1000 cars, and i dont understand this ''stop whining'' thing, if something is bad, i'll complain till i see it fixed, GT5 has more flaws than good stuff,

PD needs to give the project to another developer or just retire and finish with the GT series, if they keep making games, they'll just continue embarrassing themselves more and more and there won't be any dignity and no respect left for them

'Stop whining' is a relatively simple concept, where you just stop complaining and move on to a better game, if you can find one. Just keep in mind that perfection is quite elusive.

By all means criticize constructively. Perhaps the game is not up to your expectations, but to say that PD will lose dignity and respect is very immature. They have produced the best driving game over three generations of consoles.

 

[Kobooi]

By all means criticize constructively.

You mean like this:

GT5 is a great game, it's not Kaz's fault that there are a bunch of whiney brats that post about their delusions of grandeur

OP is more constructive than all of the "stop whining for something that is free" and "go play something else" posts together, including yours. Sure everything he said has already been said before a million times. And so has everything what you have said.

To the OP: I don't think PD is laughing at us. I think they just have no clue what's going on.

 

[interpunct]

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One game constitutes proof of this?

Don't bother replying to them, they just wanna justify the unjustifiable. Comparing GT5 to other sims to try to make a point is not the way you should criticize a game. What they don't get is that GT is a game while Forza, Simracing, rFactor etc. is another game entirely but in the same genre. And they keep trying to make GT like Forza or Simracing or whatever, because it's "better". They don't wanna listen. -.-'

This reminds me of the Call of Duty vs. Battlefield arguments people have all the time because one is better than the other. They both complain about each side but don't listen to each other. Because no matter what the game does, they always have to complain about the smallest details a game has. For the slightest thing they complain. Unless someone makes a good point in this discussion let be criticizing or praising GT, then you can count me officially out of this discussion.

 

[CodeRedR51]

Getting a strange feeling of de ja vu here.

 

[SagarisGTB]

Distribution of cars, Forza 4 vs Gran Turismo

Source

Are you trying to point out that Forza has too many American cars or that it has too few Japanese cars?

The problem is, I theorize, that Kaz doesn't have any new fresh ideas for the series. We're still racing the Grand Valley 300km from 1998. We're still racing the same old Sunday Cup, the same old tired Gran Turismo World Championship. The course editor was something new, but like alot of GT5 it was rushed and unfinished, a shadow of what it appeared to be while in development.

I hope you're not trying to say that PD should get rid of the GV 300km, Sunday Cup or GTWC. There should be new content to complement the old classics, not replace them entirely. The GTWC, for example, has been different in each game, and always provided contemporary content in a familiar setting. Those three events should be in every GT as long as they keep making them.

 

[jimipitbull]

You mean like this:

OP is more constructive than all of the "stop whining for something that is free" and "go play something else" posts together, including yours. Sure everything he said has already been said before a million times. And so has everything what you have said.

To the OP: I don't think PD is laughing at us. I think they just have no clue what's going on.

Imagine if driving games were chocolate. Is the easter bunny any better at chocolate than Santa Claus, or do they just wrap them differently?

Me, I just make the most out of my chocolates.

 

[WedgeX]

People aren't *racing*, they're *playing the game*.

best quote ever.... there is almost no racing in GT5 and if you think there is your sadly mistaken... driving around Ai moving pylons isn't racing, time trials on seasonal events isn't racing, shuffle racing where one guy always has the best or worst car... isn't racing... besides time trials and GT academy where is the competition?

98% or more of competition in this game is time trials


racing online doesn't amount to anything or mean anything when everyone uses a different car or different PP or hp its meaningless... it doesn't even keep a tally while your playing for bragging rights.... you race for what? money?


listen, I got my copy of GT5 and my subscription to iRacing in the same week of Dec 2010..... both games mean very different
things to me

I racing since then has become a full-blown hobby for me, I try to get a little practice or a race in every day....I only have so much free time, but I work really hard to get faster, learn the tracks and improve my driving. In the short time since I started I bought a new TV for my PC, bought expensive pedals, made a racing seat out of wood and a Subaru WRX seat... not because I ever desired any of this stuff but because of how impressed I was with iRacing and how intenese some of the races were. I was never a racing fan either.... I rarely fallow racing of any kind...

iRacing has also given me an appreciation for NASCAR which I never ever thought i'd have...and I know that from what I've seen in GT series with NASCAR (if I'd only seen that) it would never have changed how I felt about it.... I'd still probly hate it if not for iRacing.

and just in terms of gaming, I've had some of the most mentally intense and rewarding multiplayer experiences I've ever had in iRacing (going back to half-life deathmatch on my first PC in 1999)..... 42 cars with no lag people....

GT5 on the other hand I'm still playing the way I started, on a 20 dollar laptop table with a DFGT with wornout pedals sitting in a rocking chair.

GT5 by contrast to me is nothing more than a pass-time... I've had some good experiences and the driving is very enjoyable but there isn't much more for me than that ... i play it less than once a week and only when I get a craving to drive some of the exotic cars. For awhile I tried very hard to find the same kind of competition I was getting in iRacing and became very frustrated ... sometimes its fun for the social aspect
to play with friends ...but we always come back to the same frustration of not being able to setup fair races.

WHY IS THERE NO FIXED CLASS RACING IN THE ENTIRE GAME? ..... SO FAR THERE IS NO FAIR RACING, no fair racing, NO RACING PERIOD.

WHY CAN'T I SETUP A RACE WHERE I CAN FORCE EVERYONE TO HAVE THE SAME CAR TUNING AND NO ADVANTAGES? .... how hard is that? .... its the single biggest reason I stay away from starting my own league ...and if you do you have to send out massive e-mails explaining to people how to tune their cars and no assurance they won't cheat ....


iRacing can run 42 cars bumper to bumper with seamingly no lag .... its literally a real race in real time...I just ran the 120 mins of Thunder on watkins glen last weekend... After 2 hours my shirt is soaked thru with sweat and It wasn't the result I wanted but still a rewarding feeling to finish...and the next day played GT5 with friends but felt like cartoon racing by contrast..... but let's forget about the PC for a second because GT5 being on the PS3 is no excuse .... I want the races to mean something, I want to keep score.... look at the amazing stats I get in BF3 ... Every kill I've ever had with every gun... and the servers have no lag .. i can usually play on any server coast to coast in NA and play lag free.... gt5 on the other hand doesn't even have servers yet...... without servers the racing will always lag.

 

[CodeRedR51]

racing online doesn't amount to anything or mean anything when everyone uses a different car or different PP or hp its meaningless... it doesn't even keep a tally while your playing for bragging rights.... you race for what? money?

*cough*Leagues*cough*

Oh, and the PS3 CANNOT run 42 cars on track. Period.

 

[Patrick]

Are you trying to point out that Forza has too many American cars or that it has too few Japanese cars?
.

I think he was trying to show how Forza has pretty equal amount of cars from each country. Not majority Japanese or majority and country.

 

[obsessive rules]

stupidly long rant

Sounds: agreed
Gtacademy: you should of known it wouldn't be straight forward, and the cars are good if you never got the add-Ons.
Dlc: I like them, it's buy them or food and drink. I have more fun with the dlc.
Tracks: who cares there's 70ish tracks. Find one you like.
Online: seems like you always go on servers with ego-driven idiots. Not everyone is like that.
The pp system: it isn't just power and weight. Those cars have worse aero than a supercar. Limit tyres to sh and be done with it.
Oh I'm sorry, pd is "drooling over some gtr" grow up. Pd are not magicians. They can't magic up updates and bestow them on the world. Neither can any other company. Peoples wish lists mean if they answered them all gt6 would be out just in time for 2300.
Now this list just gets stupider. More tc=dlc. More rm=updates. They again aren't magicians. They have gt6 and a possible gt vita in the works.
And go on Iracing, you think pd cares for fanboys rants? They do but they'll possibly use it for gt6.

Tone to jump ship? Maybe for you. Im not 100% for pd but im not 100% against them. Maybe instead of pointing out the bad focus on the good. And if you have a rant, next time keep it to yourself.

 

[Terronium-12]

Oh joy, another one of these threads.

Yeah... no.