- jordan -

[Rocker]

Over a month ago I posted the "Downfall" video. The ensuing thread was full of positive comments.

One user commente that even though it was "bloody brilliant" he was going to report it anyway.

He reported, and you guys deleted it. Now that was insulting enough. Every comment in the thread was positive, including the one reporting it, but it was summarily deleted. Now, you have the same video posted right on the main page of GTPlanet.

Why is it OK for you to get all the thanks for posting such a fun video for everyone to appreciate, but its NOT okay for me to post that exact same video?

I am not happy at all, and I think I am fully entitled to express it in an open forum, because that is how it is being dealt to me.

 

[SrRd RacinG]

It would make much more sense to send him a message, Rocker.

The GT5 forum is for GT5 related threads!

 

[Seismica]

Did you make the video?

I'm assuming no. In which case you have nothing to complain about. You posted something on a forum with a no-swearing policy that had swearing in it. You probably did not warn of the language, which is probably why it was deleted. Or you could have put it in the funny video section in off-topic.

Jordan did not post it on the forum, he posted it on the news page. Also, it is Jordan's site, he can do what he likes.

Oh yeah, and it was posted for April Fools.

 

[Dravonic]

It would make much more sense to send him a message, Rocker.

The GT5 forum is for GT5 related threads!

I am not happy at all, and I think I am fully entitled to express it in an open forum, because that is how it is being dealt to me.

And I agree with the bold.

He phrased it wrong and you may have not understood it very well. He means he was dealt with publicly, and now he want's to settle it publicly. Fair enough.

 

[pay2021]

Over a month ago I posted the "Downfall" video. The ensuing thread was full of positive comments.

One user commente that even though it was "bloody brilliant" he was going to report it anyway.

He reported, and you guys deleted it. Now that was insulting enough. Every comment in the thread was positive, including the one reporting it, but it was summarily deleted. Now, you have the same video posted right on the main page of GTPlanet.

Why is it OK for you to get all the thanks for posting such a fun video for everyone to appreciate, but its NOT okay for me to post that exact same video?

I am not happy at all, and I think I am fully entitled to express it in an open forum, because that is how it is being dealt to me.

That was the first thing i think when i saw the clip in the front page, and i wonder the same thing.

Im with you in this.

Sorry my english.

 

[Shigegaki]

/popcorn

I am pretty sure the mods will close this. Jordan is a pretty nice guy,but I do agree with SrRd RacinG. Message Jordan and don't start drama in the wrong forum section.

 

[Rocker]

Seismica: make sense plz.

Whether or not I made the video is irrelevant. It has nothing to do with anything that I said, or the events that followed. So, YES I DO have something to complain about.

FYI I very very clearly warned about the language. In point of fact, I don't approve of the language myself either, but the vid was so hysterical I simply wanted to share it with others.

Neither is that why it was deleted. A user reported a thread with "Hitler" in the title without even watching the video. There was no consideration whatsoever by the admin that deleted it.

A: User complaint against Rocker
B: Thread deleted.
- End of Story -

(at least it should have been the end, and I was willing to leave it at that, until I saw this today)

What relevance 4/1 has to do with anything is beyond me.

The ONLY thing you said that makes sense, and I actually agree with is this:

"it is Jordan's site, he can do what he likes."

That's fine. If he wants to stand on that, then I have no response whatsoever. Totally his call, if he wants to do that. I am just asking him to make the call. I wouldn't put up with anyone telling me how to run my own site either, and that's not what I'm doing anyway. Not expecting this thread to be up very long either, and I'm fine with -that- too. Like I said, I am being dealt publicly, so I am responding publicly. Not an earth shattering event, but out of self respect, I must speak up when I believe I am being publicly marginalized for no good reason.

@Shigegaki - I'm not sure a simple apology on the part of the responsible mod constitutes 'drama'.

 

[Dan_]

I found that strange too and neither didn't like, every possible mention to Hitler or nazis is not allowed anywhere, however, this really don't deserve a thread or a mention. a PM would be more suitable man.... this is not really necessary.

 

[Rocker]

Dan,

Heres the thing; To me, a PM would constitute 'whining' or perhaps groveling or complaining. None of which I do, nor approve of.

But if I am simply speaking up for myself, then it must be done publicly. It doesn't work any other way.

I have spoken up and that is all I intended. If the responsible party wants to respond, then fine. If not, fine. I have said what I needed to say for myself, that's all.

 

[garybee]

Seems very wrong to me.

 

[Seismica]

Seismica: make sense plz.

Don't use text speak please.

Whether or not I made the video is irrelevant. It has nothing to do with anything that I said, or the events that followed. So, YES I DO have something to complain about.

So you're complaint (Or if you prefer the issue at hand, as you don't do complaining), is not that it was posted on the homepage, but that your thread was deleted? Or rather a combination of both?

I'm confused a little by the point I made... I was getting at the fact if you did make the video, and he posted without your consent then that would warrant a complaint, especially after your thread was deleted. But it would have given your video and youtube channel more hits/views so it would have been a good thing. So yes it is irrelevant I guess - Thats admitting I was wrong on that point.

FYI I very very clearly warned about the language. In point of fact, I don't approve of the language myself either, but the vid was so hysterical I simply wanted to share it with others.

I did say 'probably'. Its good to hear that you did warn of the language. In which case I am surprised the thread got deleted.

Nevertheless, it is inappropriate to post complaints about a moderator decision in this section, which is effectively what this thread is...

 

[mafia_boy]

What relevance 4/1 has to do with anything is beyond me.

Because April 1st IS April Fool's Day....that's what the relevance has to that video. Think about it, it's a site that doesn't allow swearing but for that one day Jordan has put it up. This quote:

This video was actually made last summer, so you may have seen it before. I’ve never posted it here, though

Shows that he's never put it up, but never made mention that it hasn't been put up before.

Dan,

Heres the thing; To me, a PM would constitute 'whining' or perhaps groveling or complaining. None of which I do, nor approve of.

But if I am simply speaking up for myself, then it must be done publicly. It doesn't work any other way.

Pffft. A PM (private message) is something to use when you don't need to attract the attention of 110,000+ forum users. It doesn't constitute complaining or whining or groveling, in fact it's used a lot in my case to pass a lot of sensitive information between members that I see fit to send it to (car tunes, conversation's regarding certain members, etc.) which would not be appropriate to talk about in the open forum.

I have spoken up and that is all I intended. If the responsible party wants to respond, then fine. If not, fine. I have said what I needed to say for myself, that's all.

So if you are still satisfied if you don't get a response back from the party involved, what's the point of complaining?? What it boils down to is that you are basically having a whinge for the sake of having a whinge then. So take it to PM since you think that's where the whingers should whinge.

 

[TokyoDrift]

Heres the thing; To me, a PM would constitute 'whining' or perhaps groveling or complaining. None of which I do, nor approve of.

To me, what you are doing now is whining and complaining. Sending a polite PM would be a whole lot more productive, but that wouldn't make you feel satisfied would it? You want the attention of other forum members despite it not really having anything to do with them at all.

I'm sure Jordan or whoever locked/deleted the original thread had their reasons at the time, and at the end of the day, Jordan runs this place - he can post the video wherever he wants. Expect this completely off-topic thread to get closed too.

 

[Rocker]

Thank you Seismica,

I will refrain from text-speak.

Hopefully my clarification above is enough.

 

[Rocker]

Jordan runs this place - he can post the video wherever he wants. Expect this completely off-topic thread to get closed too.

Both points are fine, I already agree with them, if you check my previous comments. I have no idea why/how this thread even got this far.

I will consider creating a thread in the off-topic section re: Whats the difference between a) speaking up for yourself and b) complaining/whining.

 

[No46_TheDoctor]

I see Rockers point, all the other videos that get posted on News page give mention to who ever "found" the video, and if it was so offensive first time around what has changed? Hitler is still Hitler after all............

 

[6ix]

Wait... Is this about the Hitler video?

That's been done to dead. Who cares?

 

[TokyoDrift]

Whats the difference between a) speaking up for yourself and b) complaining/whining.

Sending a polite PM to Jordan would have been speaking up for yourself. Creating a whole off-topic thread about it in the open forum is complaining/whining. That's how I see it anyway.

I see your perspective, and I also see Jordan's. He's a reasonable guy, and I'm sure will explain and fix things accordingly.

 

[Seismica]

Is there an element of 'I found it first'?

Or is it just a thread to highlight your boredom at the lack of news for GT5?

 

[No46_TheDoctor]

Wait... Is this about the Hitler video?

That's been done to dead. Who cares?

Obviously you, well, enough to post a reply anyway ?

And I cetainly didn't detect an air of "I found it first", unlike the other childish forum users who jump in with "thats old news" when someone finds something interesting and creates a thread.

It would be nice to know why Hitler isn't as offensive as he was when this video was originally brought to peoples attention.

 

[6ix]

Obviously you, well, enough to post a reply anyway ?

How does a reply to someone whining on the internet equal an interest in some internet video?

 

[Conquerer]

LOL at expecting justice on an online message board.

 

[Captain Roh]

Wait... Is this about the Hitler video?

That's been done to dead. Who cares?

he said 'Hitler'! Oh crap so did I! Oh bugger I said crap!

 

[Dravonic]

I'm sure Jordan or whoever locked/deleted the original thread had their reasons at the time, and at the end of the day, Jordan runs this place - he can post the video wherever he wants. Expect this completely off-topic thread to get closed too.

Yeah I don't agree with this attitude at all. I also don't agree with throwing at his face what I'm about to, and I don't want to start this argument, but I can't stand this "he can do whatever he wants" mentality. The bottom line is, people on this forum pretty much do his job for him and he get's the credit for it. The least he can do is send an apology to Rocker due to the injustice that happened to him. Since Jordan appears to be a nice guy, I think that's what will happen.

 

[balang_479]

I too think it was wrong.

And since when is it wrong to mention Hitler? It's history for God's sake and that video was funny.

And sending a PM wouldnt have done anything, because with the attitude that you mentioned where "he can do what he likes", he would have just ignored it then, atleast here it can be seen publicly.

 

[TokyoDrift]

Yeah I don't agree with this attitude at all. I also don't agree with throwing at his face what I'm about to, and I don't want to start this argument, but I can't stand this "he can do whatever he wants" mentality. The bottom line is, people on this forum pretty much do his job for him and he get's the credit for it. The least he can do is send an apology to Rocker due to the injustice that happened to him. Since Jordan appears to be a nice guy, I think that's what will happen.

It's called being a manager.

At the end of the day, it IS his site, he CAN do whatever he wants, and I'm sure that he will see that this reaches an amicable resolution. Honestly, what's the big deal? You would think that Jordan had stolen a video, claimed he made it himself, and taken full credit for it. But no, all we have is somebody crying because they posted a video before (probably in the wrong place at the wrong time), which subsequently got locked, and then appeared on the news page for some April Fools fun. It's not like Rocker made the video, and to be honest, the whole things screams of "I found it first and I want credit for finding it". Whoopee, what do you want, a gold medal or something?

 

[mafia_boy]

Yeah I don't agree with this attitude at all. I also don't agree with throwing at his face what I'm about to, and I don't want to start this argument, but I can't stand this "he can do whatever he wants" mentality. The bottom line is, people on this forum pretty much do his job for him and he get's the credit for it.

Well if it wasn't for Jordan in the first place, there would be no GTPlanet, PERIOD, so yes, he can do whatever the 🤬 he wants....he could have this whole website in a pink and rainbows background and you'd still log in and post here, so your point is mute. Nor would you (or anyone else for that matter) be doing any job for him, none of us would be here, and anything GT related would be passed over.

The least he can do is send an apology to Rocker due to the injustice that happened to him. Since Jordan appears to be a nice guy, I think that's what will happen.

Some of you get your panties in a bunch over the most pathetic things sometimes!!! I want an apology from Jordan for a video link I put up, I want an apology from Jordan because PD delayed GT5, I want an apology from Jordan because I wasn't born to rich parents......blah blah blah blah blah blah. Build a bridge and get over it people.

 

[Dravonic]

It's called being a manager.

At the end of the day, it IS his site, he CAN do whatever he wants, and I'm sure that he will see that this reaches an amicable resolution. Honestly, what's the big deal? You would think that Jordan had stolen a video, claimed he made it himself, and taken full credit for it. But no, all we have is somebody crying because they posted a video before (probably in the wrong place at the wrong time), which subsequently got locked, and then appeared on the news page for some April Fools fun. It's not like Rocker made the video, and to be honest, the whole things screams of "I found it first and I want credit for finding it". Whoopee, what do you want, a gold medal or something?

If that's how you see it, you got it all wrong. It's about justice really. Remember how the thread got locked and video deleted for being inappropriate? Well explain to me how the video is appropriate enough to be posted on the first page, but not to be posted on the forum.

Well if it wasn't for Jordan in the first place, there would be no GTPlanet, PERIOD, so yes, he can do whatever the 🤬 he wants....

If it wasn't for the people in it, GTPlanet would be nothing.

 

[Balocco]

You making this thread is both very, very funny and very, very sad.

 

[Rocker]

Tokyo,

At no time did I 'scream' nor did I claim 'I found it first', nor did I even ask for any resolution. I claimed only the right to publicly point out that it happened. An apology would be nice, but for my purposes, is unnecessary. I made a public statement, wow, now look at this thread.

However, I do agree Jordan can do whatever he wants with his own site. (is that the third time I said so?)

At this point, I am amazed at the protests against a member making such a simple comment about it at all.