Just a though [100% with no mods]

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has anyone achieved 100% compleation without modifying any cars and without using the b-spec mode?


pretty much the first thing i do is modify damn near everything when i start using another car...... but i'm probably not doing myself any favours.....

i'm not the best gt4'er on the planet, so every little helps, lol....
 
Nope. GT4 is like a dodgy thread here. You can't complete it without it being full of mods.

The Speedster/VX220 race for one cannot be done with a stock Speedster/VX220
 
You have to buy dirt tires for at least one car, so you technically have to mod at least one car for Special Conditions.
 
Pupik
You have to buy dirt tires for at least one car, so you technically have to mod at least one car for Special Conditions.
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Can't you do it with a rally car you win somewhere?
 
Dave^
has anyone achieved 100% compleation without modifying any cars and without using the b-spec mode?
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It isn't really a question of having to use Mods necessarily. After all, it is sometimes even easier to simply use a much better stock car (when allowed) than the AI competition, thus resulting in an unfair match-up.

You can't even go by A-spec points, as they too are often not a good indicator on how close your car is, performance wise, to the competition.

If the goal is to win each race while also not modifying or using stock cars that outmatch the competition, then my suggestion is always pick a car that is identical to the best car in the AI field for each race. This is not always easy to do, but it can be done with patience and skill. Just keep practicing, and remeber that adjusting your car's settings even without mods can result in much quicker lap times.... but also remeber that while one set of tuning adjustments might work great on one track, they could be disasterous on others.
 
Digital-Nitrate
If the goal is to win each race while also not modifying or using stock cars that outmatch the competition, then my suggestion is always pick a car that is identical to the best car in the AI field for each race. This is not always easy to do, but it can be done with patience and skill.
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But there are some manufacturer races you can not possibly win with the unmodified car, such as the Speedster Trophy daan already pointed out. It's not like you just didn't try hard enough, it is impossible.
Digital-Nitrate
Just keep practicing, and remeber that adjusting your car's settings even without mods can result in much quicker lap times.
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What do you want to adjust if you leave the cars stock, apart from driving aids maybe?

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the Interceptor
 
the Interceptor
What do you want to adjust if you leave the cars stock, apart from driving aids maybe?
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Well, you do win a whole bunch of race cars which already have fully adjustable downforce/suspension/transmission/brake controller, etc.

And if you're going for any sort of "realism" in the game, you certainly will adjust those. In real life, teams adjust these constantly.
 
jbrennen
Well, you do win a whole bunch of race cars which already have fully adjustable downforce/suspension/transmission/brake controller, etc.
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agreed! đź‘Ť
cerpin_taxt
technically it is possible to do this, but you will have a hard time doing it.
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I dare to say that it is impossible. Even the best driver in the world could not do this. With a lot of dirty driving, you can possibly come closer, but still, I don't think someone can do it at all.

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the Interceptor
 
I tried running the Opel Speedster series with a mildly upgraded Speedster Turbo (a Stage 1 or Stage 2 turbo upgrade and race tires), and I was down to the AI cars by about 2 seconds a lap at the first race. With no power mods and with stock tires, I think it's a hopeless cause.
 
jbrennen
I tried running the Opel Speedster series with a mildly upgraded Speedster Turbo (a Stage 1 or Stage 2 turbo upgrade and race tires), and I was down to the AI cars by about 2 seconds a lap at the first race. With no power mods and with stock tires, I think it's a hopeless cause.
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Yes - if anyone can do the Speedster series in a stock car I want them found and I want them shot.
 
What's up with the Speedster race? I didn't think that AI cars were upgraded, but evidently I was wrong..I have come pretty close to beating it with a stock Speedster Turbo, but that was just once.:irked:
 
I was curious as well, so I did some practice laps with a stock Speedster and Speedster Turbo on Grand Valley, the first race of the Speedster Trophy. The Turbo turned out to be the faster vehicle, so I took it into the first race. After those three laps, I had lost 50 seconds on the lead. My best lap was a 2:15.
Optimistically spoken, the absolute pros will reach laptimes of 2:05 when they hit it perfectly, which still is almost 10 seconds down on the AIs best laps.

Ergo: not a chance! :sick:
superfast
I have come pretty close to beating it with a stock Speedster Turbo, but that was just once.
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Sorry, but I seriously doubt that.

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the Interceptor
 
Would adding oil be considered a mod? Many times if you replace oil in a new car it will gain extra HP. Plus, if the car is run long enough, the engine will break in and when you replace the oil again, you'll get a little more HP. Maybe that could be enough to defeat an AI Speedster if you get lucky.
 
I guess an oil change doesn't count as modding, but those few hp you gain will not make you go 10 seconds faster.

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the Interceptor
 
Whell,i'm not @ 100%,but i'm on the way :D
@ Approx. 15% on my A-spec only no tuning save.I'm using the new S2K Type V,with oil change for most of races.Only buyed dirt tyres for S/C races!
Anyway,that's the only car i buyed,others are prize cars due to 80 gold licenses and some of races complete.I'm tempeted to upgrade the car with NA tuning :D!I think i will mod that car,beacuse i want to enter every possible race with it and my goal is to reach 10k kilometers in A-spec with it.
So,wish me luck :)
 
I was still curious about the speedster race, so I did it again, but I altered the conditions a bit. I gave the Speedster Turbo some mileage on the test course and did an oil change, which gave me 210 hp. Additionally, I changed the tires for soft racing tires. In some races you need to change them anyway, so let's say, even if this is a GT4-all-in-stock-challenge, tire changes are allowed. Then, I entered the Grand Valley race again.
The new tires gave the Turbo quite a boost in cornering speeds, braking and overall handling. To my surprise, I was actually able to keep up with them in the first lap. I was not superclose, but able to slipstream the last one now and then. Once their tires were warm though, they lost me. After three laps, I was almost 19 seconds down on the leader.
Even softer tires won't work either, as the ones I used already were yellow on the way to red. This is all you can get with those easier conditions.
Still, I believe that even an absolute pro, given proper driving, will be able to keep up with them at best, but not win. Of course, you can loosen the restrictions even more, but then you have to ask yourself if you're playing GT4 with 100% stock cars, or if you play it regularly, and you're just making it a bit more difficult for you.

Regards
the Interceptor
 
Mr. Slow tried to race GT4 using the least amount of cash, and did a fairly good job until about 60% or so. I think he used every possible prize car with no tuning for some distance into the game.

I do believe he imporved his driving skills immensely buy being cheap; he saved the Speedster and Saleen S7 races for last, as I recall.
 
Mr.Slow and I both tried this. I got to 40.2% without spending any money and he got to 41.7 without spending money (not including a little indiscretion).

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https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=64368
 
The Speedster Cup is an odd one. Even my FULLY modded Speedster (non-turbo, I heard the Turbo version isn't as powerful fully tuned than the regular one) with Nitrous, and super soft tires, it still gave a challenging 187-point race.
 
It gives around 90+ A-spec points when fully tuned and maxed downforce!(at least with turbo one)
 
Another race that I don't think can be won without any mods (unless its just my driving) is the 206 cup at Peugeot. I haven't done it in a while, but I remember getting smoked in my stock 206 by the AI.

srpst23
 
srpst23
Another race that I don't think can be won without any mods (unless its just my driving) is the 206 cup at Peugeot. I haven't done it in a while, but I remember getting smoked in my stock 206 by the AI.

srpst23
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It can be done in a stock 206 World Rally Car, but you have to buy that...
 
a112 abarth
It gives around 90+ A-spec points when fully tuned and maxed downforce!(at least with turbo one)
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I wonder what tyres you have used, I got 180+ for every race and I had a fully modded Turbo model on R3 tyres. Overkill, at least for me (I won regularly by 15 seconds or so), but I just wanted to get the series done.

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Greycap
I wonder what tyres you have used, I got 180+ for every race and I had a fully modded Turbo model on R3 tyres. Overkill, at least for me (I won regularly by 15 seconds or so), but I just wanted to get the series done.

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Whell,i don't remember anymore,and sorry ,i can't check it right now,but i remember that i got about 98 points on that one!
 
yes you can win in a "stock" 206 rally car, but since there are never any of the rally cars in the field I really don't consider that fair. I feel like taking a race car against production cars is cheating, even kif the production cars are rediculously modded. I guess however technically you are correct.
 

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