Just got my Car! (Mazda6 '15)

[Slash]

Are those the ones on rangers?

There was one in that that could be used, there was also older non-Duratec ones that can be used, mainly what I was refering to.

 

[Murcie_LP640]

Ford 2.3L. Reliable. Tons of cheap go fast parts. Good gas mileage. Easy to work on. Bajillions of them. Cheap to buy. Win.

Considerably difficult swap. Lose.

 

[Bc4]

There was one in that that could be used, there was also older non-Duratec ones that can be used, mainly what I was refering to.

Yea I was saying because my dad has a ranger (pretty sure it has a 2.3) and that thing is tough, all he does is change the oil and zero problems
But since its a Datsun I think it should have a nissan engine and was letting him know that an sr swap is possible.

 

[Slash]

Considerably difficult swap. Lose.

A couple of backyard mechanics could have it done in a day.

 

[Sage Ages]

You could go KA if the SR isn't available. It is pretty much Nissan's equivalent of Frank's Red Hot.

 

[Slash]

Fiesta engine?

 

[Sage Ages]

Fiesta engine?

In a RWD car?

 

[Slash]

Why not. Makes it different. All you'd need to do is mount the engine differently.

 

[Sage Ages]

Don't you need a new transmission?

 

[Murcie_LP640]

A couple of backyard mechanics could have it done in a day.

Including sourcing all the extra parts that using any RWD Nissan motor wouldn't require? Hell even a VG30DETT is a simple swap for these things if you want to have some real fun.

Uniquity doesn't come cheap.

 

[Slash]

Don't you need a new transmission?

Potentially. It would need to be more thought out obviously but just throwing it out there.

Including sourcing all the extra parts that using any RWD Nissan motor wouldn't require? Hell even a VG30DETT is a very simple swap for these things if you want to have some real fun.

We you'd obviously neither to gather parts first but once you've got them all, you go through the process several times through before doing it and have all tools needed, it shouldn't be too hard. You probably need a new cross member, only that needs to be able to clear the steering linkage.

 

[Murcie_LP640]

Well you'd obviously need to gather parts first

Exactly. The engine comes cheap, the work required to put it in there doesn't.

Besides, if you're supposing this swap can be done in a day by "backyard mechanics", how quick do you reckon they can do an SR20DET swap considering the engine slots right in on the stock engine mounts and the only "difficult" part of the process is the wiring?

I admire the lengths you go to in order to be an extreme Ford fanboy but seriously, that suggestion was laughable at best.

 

[Slash]

Besides, if you're supposing this swap can be done in a day by "backyard mechanics", how quick do you reckon they can do an SR20DET swap considering the engine slots right in on the stock engine mounts and the only "difficult" part of the process is the wiring?

Half hour-45 minutes. Maybe an hour if you run into a few kinks.

 

[Murcie_LP640]

And you get a better engine with much more potential and superior aftermarket as a result. It's a win-win!

 

[Slash]

And you get a better engine with much more potential and superior aftermarket as a result. It's a win-win!

Well considering I know almost nothing about this car in this regard, I'm not surprised there's engines that can bolt right in. Wether or not it has more aftermarket is debatable though.

 

[guywithanAE86]

And you get a better engine with much more potential and superior aftermarket as a result. It's a win-win!

The question is if he even has the money for that. And if he did, why would he bother doing it on an older less rigid Chassis like an S110 when he could just buy a 240SX and buy a car that has the engine he wants? These things take up time and money, and it'll only be worse if you aren't mechanically inclined.

 

[guywithanAE86]

@Custom878

Just out of curiosity, is this gonna be your first car?

 

[Sage Ages]

What would?

 

[Murcie_LP640]

The question is if he even has the money for that. And if he did, why would he bother doing it on an older less rigid Chassis like an S110 when he could just buy a 240SX and buy a car that has the engine he wants? These things take up time and money, and it'll only be worse if you aren't mechanically inclined.

I wasn't suggesting he actually did an engine swap though. I was just pointing out that if it were to be done, the 2.3 Ford is not the right engine to be doing it.

 

[McLaren]

Hmmm... Well, If there's something wrong with the engine I'm sure you can source a nice V8 from a junk yard
That either means:
It's been sitting for a LONG time
Rarely driven but city miles
Very rarely driven but highway miles

None of those sound good...

Or it's actually been taken care of judging by the pictures which shows a clean car overall.

The OP needs to go see the car & drive it instead of asking us what we think. We're not the ones driving it, he is. Or at least talk to the owner.

 

[niky]

No cross-manufacturer swap that might entail custom-welding new engine mounts, fabricating or welding together a custom prop-shaft, re-wiring the car around the engine and getting everything running is going to take an hour or less.

I mean, a group of engineers could do it in similar time... but it's not going to be streetable that way. I suppose you could simply arse the thing in and be done with it (as long as you don't have to do an MT conversion, too), if you really wanted to destroy whatever monetary value is left in the car, but what's the point?

If you're going to swap something into a 200SX, a rear wheel drive SR is the way to go. It's going to take considerably longer than an hour. My brother once pootled around in an SR-engined S12, and it was massive fun.

 

[Sage Ages]

Or maybe perhaps... a KA. No? Okay.

The car seems nice, but pictures can only show so much. I'd try to find out more about the car if I was you.

 

[Grandea GTR]

Few weeks ago found out the car was a bust. So it's a no-go 👎👎👎

Check original post, a new update!

 

[White & Nerdy]

Can you get the Mazda6 with a V6 and an MT, under budget?

 

[Grandea GTR]

Can you get the Mazda6 with a V6 and an MT, under budget?

For MT, yes, but I don't know how to drive stick, sadly. The AT still allows for full control on gears, however, and improves gas mileage.

As for V6, no. They only have one engine for now of this year model.

 

[White & Nerdy]

So no option that allows escape from the horrible fate of driving an I4 then.

 

[Grandea GTR]

So no option that allows escape from the horrible fate of driving an I4 then.

Inline-4's aren't horrible though... But yeah. No other engine option.

 

[Murcie_LP640]

Mazda6 all the way. The Optima is one of Kia's best cars but it's still "inferior" to even the old GH Mazda6 and the Acura TSX.

We were faced with a similar situation a few years back and of those three we bought a Honda Accord Euro (which is the TSX) as it had by far and away the best build quality and dynamically it was nice and sharp too, but the GJ 6 is a whole new playing field in terms of sophistication. It's not quite as engaging but it's still the superior car.

 

[Xilor]

I really love the way the Optima looks, and although I've never driven one, I heard good things about its driving dynamics too.

The Mazda6 is a good car aswell, but the one thing that concerns me is the Skyactiv engines, its relatively recent technology (they started making them in 2010 i think?) and in order to be so fuel efficient they use a very high compression ratio (14:1 in the Mazda6 compared to 10:1 or less in the majority of other cars). And basically no one knows if this technology will be reliable in the long term yet, its certainly more risky then taking a small I4 engine and sticking a Turbo on it like Kia has done with the Optima.

Another car you could consider is the Ford Fusion. Its a similar type of car to the Mazda6, designed in Europe so it looks and drives great and has a proven and reliable powertrain.

 

[Grandea GTR]

I really love the way the Optima looks, and although I've never driven one, I heard good things about its driving dynamics too.

The Mazda6 is a good car aswell, but the one thing that concerns me is the Skyactiv engines, its relatively recent technology (they started making them in 2010 i think?) and in order to be so fuel efficient they use a very high compression ratio (14:1 in the Mazda6 compared to 10:1 or less in the majority of other cars). And basically no one knows if this technology will be reliable in the long term yet, its certainly more risky then taking a small I4 engine and sticking a Turbo on it like Kia has done with the Optima.

Another car you could consider is the Ford Fusion. Its a similar type of car to the Mazda6, designed in Europe so it looks and drives great and has a proven and reliable powertrain.

I've heard that the 2014-15 Mazda6 only uses a costly synthetic oil.

I have checked out the Fusion. I like the driving feel, but trying to look around my surroundings in the car, it felt rather awkward for me. Also, unlike the Optima and the 6, I would have to go up a trim level + packages in order to reach the similar amount of content the other two have stock.