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Just how easy is it to get an STD?
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A canker sore inside your mouth is usually caused by different infections. But a cold sore on the outside of your lip is often caused by herpes simplex, the same virus that causes genital herpes. So yes, touching an open cold sore on your mouth and then touching your own genitals can transfer the virus to your nether regions.
Cold sores are caused by Herpes Simplex Virus type 1 (HSV-1) while genital herpes is usually caused by HSV-2, a closely related strain of the virus. However, absolutely nothing prevents you from giving yourself genital HSV-1 herpes if you touch a cold sore or fever blister and transmit that virus to your privates.
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HSV-1 and HSV-2 are both incurable at this time. Symptoms may come and go, but the virus itself remains. However, I believe it's non-contagious (or at least very highly reduced in contagion) when there isn't an outbreak present.
Gil can correct me if I'm wrong. I hope he wanders back through and validates this.
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Not true. The virus can still be transferred from one partner to another even if the infected partner is not showing. Your correct about the incurable part though, and even with the medication out on the market today, it can only control the outbreaks, not make them go away. Basically it holds the virus off for longer, and shortens the period of time that you have an outbreak.
BTW, for anyone who hasn't seen what genital herpes looks like, do a search in google, but prepare to never want to have sex with someone again.
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Geez, that's even more scary that you can give an 'STD' to yourself.
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Only if you are pretty 'flexible' - a gift few of us have
Too much information!
The late, great Bill Hicks once famously said that if all men were capable of this accomplishment, the women in the crowd would be on their own - watching an empty stage.
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Too much information!
Sadly i wasn't talking from personal experience, if i was i wouldn't be writing this post now. Hell, i wouldn't even be a member of GTP!
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Only if you are pretty 'flexible' - a gift few of us have
Theoretically I suppose you could touch your cold sore and then scratch your balls. And it doesn't even have to be dirty.... could be like one of those awkward moments in the bathroom when you are cleaning up.
Not the best form of manners/etiquette or whatever but it *could* happen and you would never know... except your doctor would know something is wrong with you! haha
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As Duke says Herpes is for life.
It has periods when it is "dormant" but it stays with you forever.
It's symptoms can be mitigated with medication. And you should avoid sexual contact while the disease is active.
On the positive side: herpes is not as bad as it was once thought to be (in the '80s) But it does remain a significant STD.
If you are going to engage in sex, or be "promiscuous" please use protection.
Also, use more than one method. i.e. Foam and condom.
Even if your girl is on the pill, or depo, or has an IUD, wear a condom in order to prevent pregnancy and STDs.
And for the morality lesson that Duke knows I'll add. Young peeps, sex is for people in love. Quality is way more important than Quantity.
It has periods when it is "dormant" but it stays with you forever.
It's symptoms can be mitigated with medication. And you should avoid sexual contact while the disease is active.
On the positive side: herpes is not as bad as it was once thought to be (in the '80s) But it does remain a significant STD.
If you are going to engage in sex, or be "promiscuous" please use protection.
Also, use more than one method. i.e. Foam and condom.
Even if your girl is on the pill, or depo, or has an IUD, wear a condom in order to prevent pregnancy and STDs.
And for the morality lesson that Duke knows I'll add. Young peeps, sex is for people in love. Quality is way more important than Quantity.
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Gil: can you confirm that you can give yourself genital herpes as I described? I'd like to know for sure.
1) What about depression and unwanted pregnancies inside of marriage? You can't pretend they don't happen either. Being married doesn't magically make you a happy family. It's the personal committment shared by the two partners that makes it work or not work - and a marriage certificate or blessing is irrelevant to that conviction.
2) What about saving sex until you are married and then finding out you are completely sexually incompatible? I've seen that happen, too; and it leads to divorce or lifelong unhappiness in many cases. Some work around it - most don't.
This I'll back completely. 👍 Sex can be treated lightly - but it's a lot better when you take it seriously with a person you take seriously.
And here's where 'morality' and 'religion' collide. I'm going to disagree with this statement 100%, because to me it is all about dogma and not at all about morality.
1) What about depression and unwanted pregnancies inside of marriage? You can't pretend they don't happen either. Being married doesn't magically make you a happy family. It's the personal committment shared by the two partners that makes it work or not work - and a marriage certificate or blessing is irrelevant to that conviction.
2) What about saving sex until you are married and then finding out you are completely sexually incompatible? I've seen that happen, too; and it leads to divorce or lifelong unhappiness in many cases. Some work around it - most don't.
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Bull****. I know several happy loving couples with healthy happy children who have never been married and who have no intention of getting marred. That's just anecdotal, so I want some proper stats on the issue.
And on the flipside I know some married couples that ended up getting divorced or where arguments over whether or not to have children or medical difficulties with having children lead to serious relationship difficulties.
I'd like to see some proper stats to prove the idea that sex is "better" (what does that mean anyway - more frequent coitus, longer orgasms, more exotic positions, etc. etc.) within a married relationship as opposed to a non-married long-term relationship and also that depression is somehow associated with non-married couples.
I wouldn't be surprised if unwanted pregnancies were far more common outside marriage - after all, unwanted pregnancies have a tendency to be the result of one-night stands or short-term relationships that obviously aren't married couples - but that says nothing about how children or sex fare within long-term relationshipos when compared with marriages. But how do shotgun marriages and hastily arranged marriages due to unexpected children compare with the average marriage or with the average loving long-term relationship with children? We need some proper figures on this.
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Not sure on the question of giving yourself Genital Herpes from Oral Herpes.
However, the first three rules of patient care are:
Wash your hands when you leave a patient.
Wash your hands upon entering the next patient's room/space.
Wash your hands between glove changes.
Proper handwashing is the most effective way to prevent the spread of disease.
That means using soap, lather up and "scrub" your hands for at least 15 seconds, thirty is better, and then dry your hands using the paper towels to turn off the spigot.
However, the first three rules of patient care are:
Wash your hands when you leave a patient.
Wash your hands upon entering the next patient's room/space.
Wash your hands between glove changes.
Proper handwashing is the most effective way to prevent the spread of disease.
That means using soap, lather up and "scrub" your hands for at least 15 seconds, thirty is better, and then dry your hands using the paper towels to turn off the spigot.
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I actually will agree with your logic here. If you have never had sex, and then you get married, and then you have sex, then yes! it is the best sex you have ever had. (even bad sex is good sex.. teehee.. tis a joke BTW)
This sounds more like religious abstinence propoganda. Is that why you have it quotes? Care to share your sources and stats?
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I wasn't trying to sound religious...the quote itself is just a quote
"The best sex can be enjoyed when you save it for marriage!"
Take that quote by itself...no religion, no dogma.
That quote in itself, is it not true?
Don't get me started on marriage though, but I will say this...
It will be more likely that a couple can enjoy sex in marriage than outside of marriage because it is SPECIAL to them and them only.
If the marriage works out like it should (pick your mate very well, don't just marry anyone!!) the marriage should be very happy and the sex life should be wonderful.
That statement I made above should have an added note that you should pick your mate with very careful consideration. "Til death do us part" anyone?
"The best sex can be enjoyed when you save it for marriage!"
Take that quote by itself...no religion, no dogma.
That quote in itself, is it not true?
Don't get me started on marriage though, but I will say this...
It will be more likely that a couple can enjoy sex in marriage than outside of marriage because it is SPECIAL to them and them only.
If the marriage works out like it should (pick your mate very well, don't just marry anyone!!) the marriage should be very happy and the sex life should be wonderful.
That statement I made above should have an added note that you should pick your mate with very careful consideration. "Til death do us part" anyone?
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If you consider that sentence carefully, you may realise that it is somewhat paradoxical...
Unless you are married and have also had pre-marital sex, then how can you make a comparison about what was better? If you 'save it for marriage' (staying celibate until marriage) you will never know if sex was better before you got married...
In other words, it can't be literally 'true' in that context... you could argue that sex within marriage is best - but that is a matter of personal opinion. Saving sex until marriage is (arguably) not the best way to find a compatible sexual partner...
Of course you should think and search long and hard before getting married - but I strongly believe that 'getting to know someone really well' before getting married doesn't just stop at knowing what sort of nail varnish she uses... you can only really know if you can live together by living together and seeing how it goes - the original 'suck it and see' approach... of course, this approach applies to sex as well... (safely, or course...)
In other words, living together and having sex with each other before marriage, in my view, can only serve to help you make the right decisions...
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I say - no, it's not. It's your quote, why don't you show that it's true.
How does the act of spending a day going through the ritual of a wedding before you have sex make it any better to a couple that's already commited and loving? Why should a long-term loving couple who haven't married be incapable of the "best sex" but a long-term loving couple who have got married by capable of it? IF anything, couples who "save" themselves for marriage will have worse sex, at least at first. Sex, like a lot of things in life, can take practice before it gets good. The married couple will probably end up having great sex, but the couple who had sex before marriage will have learned how to pleasure each other or will have learned that they're not sexually compatible and the marriage or relationship might be cancelled.
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I'm not married for one, so it would be pointless for me to try and explain it from personal experience.
I disagree with that logic on the idea of "practice before it gets good". Again I say...to say to your spouse "I waited for you" and he/she being able to say the same thing back, how awesome would that be?
Not to mention you have the whole marriage to get better at sex. Besides, theres more to marriage than just sex...facet? Yes.
I disagree with that logic on the idea of "practice before it gets good". Again I say...to say to your spouse "I waited for you" and he/she being able to say the same thing back, how awesome would that be?
Not to mention you have the whole marriage to get better at sex. Besides, theres more to marriage than just sex...facet? Yes.
Evolution.
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Evolution.
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It was stupid?
So basically, it wouldn't matter to you if your partner ended up contracting an STD from you, unknowingly? It's better to know you have one than to not know and spread it, isn't it?
So basically, it wouldn't matter to you if your partner ended up contracting an STD from you, unknowingly? It's better to know you have one than to not know and spread it, isn't it?
Evolution.
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I suppose that's probably what he is trying to say. It was just worded poorly.
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Actually, it was not a stupid post at all. If you've got something, it's news you need to know NOW before you give it to someone else. If you have an STD, it's because you picked it up from someone who also didn't want to know... or at the very least didn't want to tell you.MachOne, that post was just stupid.
If I had an STD, I wouldn't want to know. Not sure if it would be something I'm ready to hear at such an early age. 19 years old and living the rest of my life with an STD? It's a hard pill to swallow.
So your post here is the one that's off base.
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