just upgraded to g27

[clos2727]

i recently pick up a g27 wheel from craiglist for ( get this) $120 that's right..

i quickly made adjustments to my cockpit to accommodate the shifter and the pedals... i have to say this is a far superior wheel than the dfgt. and not by just a little, but by a landslide.

i thought it would be an easy transition from dfgt to the g27 wheel. but to my amazement. i had a difficult time adjusting to the clutch and gate shifter... not because i cant drive shift stick, (im a truck driver). but because i got used to the dfgt sequential shifter. and if that wasn't bad enough i got use to braking with my left foot on the dfgt. i keep forgetting the brake is now a clutch lol...

so i went to nurburgh and did some laps, slowly but surely i began to get the hang of it. i also found out that with a clutch and gated shifter, there are things you cannot do with a sequential shifter.

i found myself going to fast into a turn, then miss shifted. cars rear gave way then found myself drifting the turn at speed. i think they call that a clutch kick, dont quote me.. all i could do is smile. vehicle control is superb.

next took the wheel drifting session . again i found it so much easier to drift with g27 than the dfgt. i guess is the smoothness of the wheel. shifting takes some time to get used to though

anyway. has anyone have some kool techniques i can use, im currently practicing the heel toe shifting. i just cant get it. but im not one to shy away from a challenge..

has anyone else gone through this same learning process?

by the way did i say i love this wheel..

 

[Caz]

Heel toe just takes time. Eventually it will just kind of fall into place. Im still getting it and am still messing up here and there but when ya get it right it feels great.

On the left foot braking: oh how many times have i thought my mechanic forgot to refill me with brake fluid

 

[Saidur_Ali]

I'm thinking about upgrading to this wheel from a DFGT due to the wheel speed. DFGT is a bit sluggish as you may know so not very good for drifting. Do you find yourself faster than DFGT using paddles and does it feel more precise and tighter in the centre of the wheel?

 

[ozone]

I felt the same way upgrading from a DFGT to a G27, but I definitely had to turn the FFB up to 8+. The DFGT has a lot of FFB power, and the G27 didn't have quite as much at the same setting.

 

[clos2727]

I'm thinking about upgrading to this wheel from a DFGT due to the wheel speed. DFGT is a bit sluggish as you may know so not very good for drifting. Do you find yourself faster than DFGT using paddles and does it feel more precise and tighter in the centre of the wheel?

aside from the gate shifter which is not as fast as the dfgt sequential shifter, its just of mater of practicing i guess. i can shift pretty fast on it with no problems aside from miss shifting.

but again it all comes down to the amount of time it takes to get use to it.. force feedback is not as strong as that of the dfgt, but its not a major problem seeing as i always kept the force feedback @ 10 on the dfgt.

although the force feedback is not as strong at 10 ten; the smoothness of the wheel alone, gives it an excellent and proper feel.

as far as drifting is concerned, its alot easier simply because of the smoothness of the wheel. that being said, theres is a problem with drifting and shifting the gate shifter.. you have to let the rpms come down just a slight in order to get to the next gear. you cant quick shift like in a race.. i think its because of the wheel spin in drifting. i cant maintain a drift if i have to shift to a higher gear. car grips the ground by the time im in the next gear..i guess with some practice i can master it

i just reversed mounted the pedals. man what a difference that made. like night and day.. i shift better, a lot less miss shifts, im faster, and last it feels like a real car

 

[Zoom!Zoom!]

I'm not too sure DFGT ffb motors are actually stronger than G27 since it ffb seems to be more off/on. Either DFGT ffb is ultra-light (it's hard to notice it unless you take your hand off the wheel) or very strong with hardly no middle ground. This on/off make the ffb seem like it's stronger than it really is since you got to hold the wheel tighter in order to keep it in the center. (Any bump in the road will cause the ffb motors to turn with maximum power so it feel like you just ran over someone) This is why DFGT can get very hot when racing some race cars for a long period of time in GT5.
G27 ffb is more gradual and smoother so I don't have to fight the wheel as much to keep it centered like I do with DFGT.

 

[clos2727]

I'm not too sure DFGT ffb motors are actually stronger than G27 since it ffb seems to be more off/on. Either DFGT ffb is ultra-light (it's hard to notice it unless you take your hand off the wheel) or very strong with hardly no middle ground. This on/off make the ffb seem like it's stronger than it really is since you got to hold the wheel tighter in order to keep it in the center. (Any bump in the road will cause the ffb motors to turn with maximum power so it feel like you just ran over someone) This is why DFGT can get very hot when racing some race cars for a long period of time in GT5.

i can definitely say that in my opinion, the dfgt force feedback is very strong compared to the g27. i constantly felt aware of every bumb, apex, or air i got. if one happen to be to light on the wheel on one of these occasions the wheel will surely whip out your hands. i enjoyed it very much at the strongest settings. felt the road a lot better.

now im not saying that the g27 has no force feedback or that it isn't strong, im just stating that the dfgt was alot more brutal than the g27

but i think this all comes down to the spacing in the gears of the wheels.wide gears would be much rougher (dfgt). also explains the noise this wheel produces. while that fine helical gears (g27) smooth transitions in the gears. which reduces wheel noise greatly.which may be why it seams a lot less brutal to me..

does that make any sense.?

 

[Zoom!Zoom!]

i can definitely say that in my opinion, the dfgt force feedback is very strong compared to the g27. i constantly felt aware of every bumb, apex, or air i got. if one happen to be to light on the wheel on one of these occasions the wheel will surely whip out your hands. i enjoyed it very much at the strongest settings. felt the road a lot better.

now im not saying that the g27 has no force feedback or that it isn't strong, im just stating that the dfgt was alot more brutal than the g27

but i think this all comes down to the spacing in the gears of the wheels.wide gears would be much rougher (dfgt). also explains the noise this wheel produces. while that fine helical gears (g27) smooth transitions in the gears. which reduces wheel noise greatly.which may be why it seams a lot less brutal to me..

does that make any sense.?

When I race the X1 with G27 ( it's ffb is very close to on/off) it seems just as strong as DFGT as well as heating up the wheel if I race a long period of time.
If the wheel ffb motors is always turning close to max (just like when in the X1) it will make it feel stronger since any direction change will cause the ffb turn 100% in the other direction which also cause the motors to heat up. This is why you have to fight both G27 and DFGT like mad down the straight when running the X1.
P.S it does take a little more energy turning against DFGT ffb than G27 because of the gears.

 

[clos2727]

ok i know what you mean now, that's what i was trying to say... it does take a lot more effort to turn the dfgt, than the g27. even when the force feedback eases up ( ie after a turn while straightening out) one still fights the wheel because of the huge gears between the motor and the wheel

this is one of the reasons why its so hard to drift with the dfgt. cause you cant whip it around. because of the big gears. even at a low feedback setting.

 

[wills2084]

So I've been wanting to upgrade from my DFGT and right now at amazon the G27's are only $229. Is this worth it or should I get one of the fanatec CSR's when those come out. I think the base CSR is $250 without pedals.

 

[amf7]

Hmmmm... can't say for sure but shaun Cole says he prefers CSR, and he used to love the logitech so I think fanatec maybe better for you. Their is also a wide range of pedals to choose from/

 

[clos2727]

So I've been wanting to upgrade from my DFGT and right now at amazon the G27's are only $229. Is this worth it or should I get one of the fanatec CSR's when those come out. I think the base CSR is $250 without pedals.

it all depends on your budget really. i haven't tried out any fanatic wheels myself, i did want to purchase one but. i didnt want to pay a different price for upgraded pedals or shifters. which will run you a pretty penny.

so logitech became a no brainer since all was included plus the pedals are much better that the stock fanatec pedals. and you get a gated shifter with your purchase of the g27. where as you would need to purchase this with the fanatec wheel. unless you purchased the premium package which will run you close to $500. you do the math...