KPH and MPH

[WhIteDrAgOn]

As I was watching Initial D yesterday, I realized that "Takumi" from the anime wasnt really that fast. 120 KPH is only like 70-80 mph

 

[MSHBKS34]

As I was watching Initial D yesterday, I realized that "Takumi" from the anime wasnt really that fast. 120 KPH is only like 70-80 mph

yeah, can't go too fast.. like me.. hehe..

hmm, so thats why i can't drift! i can't slow down!

 

[Swift]

As I was watching Initial D yesterday, I realized that "Takumi" from the anime wasnt really that fast. 120 KPH is only like 70-80 mph

First: I'm not sure why you put this thread on this forum as it really has nothing to do with drifting in GT3 or IRL.

Second: Takumi is driving down mountain passes. These are steep inclines with extreme turns and hairpins. When's the last time any of us did 80 mp/h on a backroad, to say nothing of a mountain pass. 80 MP/H is fast, when you consider the roads they race on in Initial D.

Ok, I'm done.

 

[FDdrifter]

hAha yes it is pretty fast for mt. drifting...

 

[LoudMusic]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but drifting isn't about speed.

 

[Ten]

I beg of you WhiteDragon, please stop poorly representing myself and the rest of Initial D's fanbase.

This is what I mean: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=16956&

It's a great series, it just suffers from an ignorant and over-excited fanbase.

 

[Swift]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but drifting isn't about speed.

You're absolutely correct! 👍

However, in terms of Initial D, most of the characters use speed drifting techniques in their races.

I hope everyone understands that they are speed or race drifting, NOT exhibition drifting.

 

[Omnis]

yeah and umm.....80mph is pretty damn fast. any speed that can eject you from your car is pretty fast.

 

[Swift]

Let me just say this about Initial D then I honestly hope the SD or Der Alta closes this thread.

Initial D is based in reality but does not mimic or simulate reality. Yes it it possible to do the gutter run, lidless gutter and most realistic of all, the invisible line techniques to name a few. However, it's an anime! Why would anyone, anywhere base their perception of driving/drifting on an anime? It's what SD so aptly termed as "hyper-reality". Basically that just means that it's about a halfstep above the realm of reality and safety that real people would go to.

So please, watch Initial D, enjoy it. Ask about some of the techniques like inertia drifting and such. But don't look at something like speed and say that "they aren't going that fast" Who cares, it's an anime.

 

[Ten]

On a side note, I have seen amateur japanese videos of people doing guardrail bumps to kick out their rear end...what possesses them to do that?

And lastly, before I exit this thread:

The SS version AE86 is Takumi's car. Well, to be more accurate, Takumi's car is Shuichi Shigeno's car.
That should be all the Initial D--->GT3 fandom you need.

 

[LifeWater]

Yes it it possible to do the gutter run

And pop out of the gutter, or hit the guardrail next to the gutter, slam into the wall, or off a cliff and die.

lidless gutter and most realistic of all, the invisible line techniques to name a few.

and fail, fall into the gutter, flip over, get crushed by the roof of your car, and die.

the invisible line techniques.

and follow the invisible line right into the not so invisible tree, watch your interior implode on you, crushing you, and suprizingly enough, you die.

I should know, I've done all of this.

Hehe jk man, just messin with ya

 

[RX-7_FC_DrIfteR]

As I was watching Initial D yesterday, I realized that "Takumi" from the anime wasnt really that fast. 120 KPH is only like 70-80 mph

Think about it. Would your like to be going more then 80mph down a mountain pass? Drifting around corners like no tomorrow? I think not.

I'm sure this thread need to be moved.

 

[Ryen49]

Did you really expect someone to go threw a mountain pass at above 120mph? I mean come on use some commen sense. That is sucidal. It may be possible depending on the turn or if its a long straight but still ID showed the many Tight corner mountain passes of japan. 80 mph.... I wouldnt even go over 30.

 

[Famine]

As I was watching Initial D yesterday, I realized that "Takumi" from the anime wasnt really that fast. 120 KPH is only like 70-80 mph

That would be "km/h".

 

[Swift]

That would be "km/h".

For crying out loud famine. We all know that. Sheesh. Technically you're right. But when we all see that we know what he means, what's the use of pointing out that tiny detail with nothing else to say?

And why didn't you correct him on the "mph" as well.

I hope you don't get mad, but I've noticed you like to get people on technical stuff. This time, it just wasn't needed.

 

[Famine]

Simply because "mph" is an accepted, and therefore correct, unit of measurement. "kph" is not and never has been. The SI unit of speed is, of course, m/s (or ms-1, but generally it is multiplied up to km/h (or, of course, kmh-1).

If you're measuring vehicle speed with Imperial units, then it is measured in mph. If you are measuring vehicle speed with metric units, then it is km/h.

Of course, if you'd actually like people not to be educated in these things, you're reading the wrong forum.


And finally, if "we all know that", how come he didn't use that? More to the point, why did YOU use "mp/h"? Miles per per hour?

When's the last time any of us did 80 mp/h on a backroad, to say nothing of a mountain pass. 80 MP/H is fast

 

[Swift]

Simply because "mph" is an accepted, and therefore correct, unit of measurement. "kph" is not and never has been. The SI unit of speed is, of course, m/s (or ms-1, but generally it is multiplied up to km/h (or, of course, kmh-1).

If you're measuring vehicle speed with Imperial units, then it is measured in mph. If you are measuring vehicle speed with metric units, then it is km/h.

Of course, if you'd actually like people not to be educated in these things, you're reading the wrong forum.


And finally, if "we all know that", how come he didn't use that? More to the point, why did YOU use "mp/h"? Miles per per hour?

Oh well. whatever. I'm busted. You got me fair and square.

I was just annoyed that you would point out such a mundane detail that quite frankly doesn't even apply to the theme of the thread. I mean, what's more important? Decent grammar and posting with respect or somone putting a / in kph? Think about it. If mph is accepted, a logical deduction is that kph would be as well. Dang, that's what I was trying to say.

Getting on someone else for something that is as trival as a misrepresented acronym, without supplying anything else to the thread, it's just annoying.

And what I meant was we all knew what he meant when he said "kph" What did you think I was talking about?

 

[Famine]

Why is that a logical deduction? You're talking about two completely different number systems - Imperial and metric/SI.

"k" is simply the SI prefix signifying 1x10^3 - kilo. "kph" signifies "kilo per hour". It gets worse if you "put a / in kph" - it becomes "kilo per per hour". What on Earth does that mean? Kilo what?

The measurement is "km" - "kilometres", or "1 thousand times the basic SI unit of distance". The SI system doesn't bother with abbreviated mathematical functions, so wouldn't include a "p" for "per" anywhere. You'd either have a "/" - as in "km/h" or a "-1", as in "kmh-1".

For your reference, I was educating, not admonishing. If you wish to perceive everything you read on the internet as an attack, or "getting on at someone", that's your problem. With that in mind, an "acronym" is an abbreviation which spells something you can pronounce out loud as a word - like "LASER" (Light Amplification by the Stimulated Emission of Radiation). "mph" is an abbreviation. "km/h" is a concatenation or contraction.

 

[nk4e]

How do you convert Mp/h to Km/H?Hasn't that been asked on the GT3 thread?

 

[Famine]

You don't.

But you convert mph to km/h by multiplying by (approximately) 1.609.

Thus the 120km/h mentioned is actually 74.6mph.

 

[nk4e]

You don't.

But you convert mph to km/h by multiplying by (approximately) 1.609.

Thus the 120km/h mentioned is actually 74.6mph.

Thank you for the lesson of the day.

 

[Swift]

Why is that a logical deduction? You're talking about two completely different number systems - Imperial and metric/SI.

"k" is simply the SI prefix signifying 1x10^3 - kilo. "kph" signifies "kilo per hour". It gets worse if you "put a / in kph" - it becomes "kilo per per hour". What on Earth does that mean? Kilo what?

The measurement is "km" - "kilometres". The SI system doesn't bother with abbreviated mathematical functions, so wouldn't include a "p" for "per" anywhere. You'd either have a "/" - as in "km/h" or a "-1", as in "kmh-1".

For your reference, I was educating, not admonishing. If you wish to perceive everything you read on the internet as an attack, or "getting on at someone", that's your problem. With that in mind, an "acronym" is an abbreviation which spells something you can pronounce out loud as a word - like "LASER" (Light Amplification by the Stimulated Emission of Radiation). "mph" is an abbreviation. "km/h" is a concatenation or contraction.

You go MR Technical! And it is a logical deduction for someone that can't explain the exact mathematical definition of Kilometers per hour. Let's see, "If miles per hour is MPH then Kilometers per Hour would be KPH. Yeah, that makes logical sense." And again, you're right. It's not an Acronym like Radar, sonar, lasar or Scuba.

All I'm saying is....why pop into the drifting forums, post one thing on an incredibly technical note with no explaintion(like you just gave) and then split?

You know what. Forget it. I was never arguing that you were wrong, cause you're not. But it's all about delivery. and your delivery was really weak. So, maybe you want to work on that. But I'm sure you don't.

I can see this getting ugly really quick. And I generally don't like that at all on forums so if you post something after this, I won't rebut it here in this thread in the spirit of goodwill on these forums.

 

[Delphic Reason]

I pointed the km/h thing out to you over at the IDM forums, Swift... You didn't jump down my throat for it...

Famine was merely trying to give the correct terminology. Because, as he stated, KPH does not represent the actual measurement and could ultimately confuse many people...

I can underastand, as it is a pet peeve of mine as well...

However, I can also see your point, in that he probably should have added some more information to the original post to make it more informative (which he then proceded to do in the following post), but it doesn't warrant an argument...

As this is certainly not the forum for this kind of thread, I will close this...

WhiteDragon... Please put more thought into the subject, before posting a thread or reply... You could have easily taken care of this on AIM, or via the PM system...

Have a nice day...