Lamborghini Reventon uncovered?

[Dave A]

I think McLaren is just saying that the current designs are already awsome.

I doubt that there would be inaccuracies or anything like that, it just spoils my romantic vision of PD having to painstakingly represent each car from hundreds of photos they took, while they could see. the actual car! Smell it, touch it, hear it! Using models lacks the passion I thought PD were famous for.

They still take a hell of a lot of photo's, a model just gives ye another perspective of the car and as already pointed out, you can have it on your desk while you're modelling.

 

[SrRd RacinG]

I think McLaren is just saying that the current designs are already awsome.

No doubt. I love the Murc a lot...but a new design would be even more epic.

 

[Coiler]

Lambo is like corvette, and aston's. On the first sight you know what car it is.

 

[McLaren]

But with Lambo, you're looking at similarities galore.

But, you're not. The only similarities are the scissor doors & a big V12. That's it. They're not updated on anything.

Lamborghini needs a new supercar design. The Countach is still too similar to the cars now-a-days.

I have yet to see any new car that looks as radical as the Countach's design is. As for newer cars "looking like it", that's not Lamborghini's fault. You can't predict what cars 35+ years down the line will look like.

The Diablo, Murciélago, Gallardo and Reventón are just updates of the Countach. They need something more bold. May they head into another direction with something fresh!

Couldn't be more wrong. The Countach is a terrible car to drive for anyone who isn't insane.

The Diablo was the introduction of the AWD system as well as the air lift suspension. The car was also a much better drive & more responsive & came in a multitude of flavors. However, the car still took some skill driving.

The only Diablo the Murcielago evolved from was the 6.0 & that's because the 6.0 was originally intended as the new car. Audi's ownership completely changed the Murcielago from being anything like a Countach was. As for the Gallardo, it came from absolutely no similarities of the Countach or Diablo.

 

[SrRd RacinG]

But, you're not. The only similarities are the scissor doors & a big V12. That's it. They're not updated on anything.

I have yet to see any new car that looks as radical as the Countach's design is. As for newer cars "looking like it", that's not Lamborghini's fault. You can't predict what cars 35+ years down the line will look like.

Couldn't be more wrong. The Countach is a terrible car to drive for anyone who isn't insane.

The Diablo was the introduction of the AWD system as well as the air lift suspension. The car was also a much better drive & more responsive & came in a multitude of flavors. However, the car still took some skill driving.

The only Diablo the Murcielago evolved from was the 6.0 & that's because the 6.0 was originally intended as the new car. Audi's ownership completely changed the Murcielago from being anything like a Countach was. As for the Gallardo, it came from absolutely no similarities of the Countach or Diablo.

You argue for argument's sake.

You know Lamborghini models are similar. By similar, I mean they look like in appearance. By look alike, I mean they are easily recognized as a Lamborghini. An F430 looks in no way like an F50 but they are Ferraris. A Reventón is very much like an LP640 Murciélago (and like an LP670-4 SV in the front). When I think of Lamborghini, I think of the Countach's basic frame and then an evolution of power and facelifts.

No more games, McLaren.

 

[lilcat89]

The Diablo was the introduction of the AWD system as well as the air lift suspension.

If I remember correctly, the diablo was only RWD. The murcielago introduced AWD.

 

[finnracer]

The Diablo VT was the first AWD Lambo!!

 

[SrRd RacinG]

I know this isn't the Lamborghini thread per sé, but what I am trying to say is that:

A Corvette has looked like a Corvette for generations. I'd say the C3 is the Corvette which now resembles Corvettes of today. You can make a case for the C2 Corvette as well. But the Corvette is one model of a manufacturer. It has evolved in power and in its appearance. But in the look's department, nothing too dramatic. You know it's a Corvette. But if you're unfamiliar with cars, you may not know it's a Chevrolet.

With the Gallardo, Diablo, Murciélago, etc... you know it is a Lamborghini. But if you're unfamiliar with cars, you won't know if it's a Diablo, Murciélago LP 670- 4 SV Reventón or just a Murciéago LP 640.

Notice how it's flipped?

 

[lilcat89]

your confusing me with that post.

 

[SrRd RacinG]

your confusing me with that post.

HAHA! Ok, once more.

When you see a Corvette, you know it is a Corvette, whether or not it's the new C6 '09 ZR1 or a '74 Stingray Coupe. They resemble one another despite the time gap. But what comes second is Chevrolet. When you see a Corvette, you think of Corvette, then Chevrolet second. And that's why Corvettes are so recognizable; because they look so alike.

When you see a Lamborghini, you know it is a Lamborghini, whether or not it's a Countach, Gallardo LP 560-4 or the Reventón. But typically, you think of Lamborghini first, and then the model second. And that's why Lamborghini models are so recognizable; because they look so alike.

 

[lilcat89]

I understood what you said the first time, but the way you explained it was....misleading. I actually think that the Reventon was not so much a product, but more of an expression of where the design theme of lamborghini is headed. Proof of this can be seen in all of their cars since. I like how automakers have and are incorporating their "signature" style into all of their models.

 

[chepe371]

your confusing me with that post.

Well hes just saying how one Model can be identified by a certain demographic but not its Manufacturer, as is the case of the Vette, but in the case of Lambos one might know the Manufacturer in general but not the individual models.

 

[Coiler]

I know this isn't the Lamborghini thread per sé, but what I am trying to say is that:

A Corvette has looked like a Corvette for generations. I'd say the C3 is the Corvette which now resembles Corvettes of today. You can make a case for the C2 Corvette as well. But the Corvette is one model of a manufacturer. It has evolved in power and in its appearance. But in the look's department, nothing too dramatic. You know it's a Corvette. But if you're unfamiliar with cars, you may not know it's a Chevrolet.

With the Gallardo, Diablo, Murciélago, etc... you know it is a Lamborghini. But if you're unfamiliar with cars, you won't know if it's a Diablo, Murciélago LP 670- 4 SV Reventón or just a Murciéago LP 640.

Notice how it's flipped?

Thats not a good point, every lambo has a different name... and corvette is always corvette. And look's are near the same from the 90's.

 

[eSZee]

I hope to god you're joking....

agreed, seriously.
Anyone who has ever seen a gallardo or murcielage in person could no way in hell confuse them. Of course the difference between a lp640 or the 670 SV is minimal, they are the same model afterall. I'll agree with the reventon, kind of. The body shape is similar but the various body panel differences are enough to distinguish it.
SRD's argument was flawed from the start. If you know about cars you'll know the difference. If you don't know about cars, you have a hard time telling apart an accord from a malibu. True story.
This argument, as most, is pointless and has no place in this thread.

 

[McLaren]

You argue for argument's sake.

I don't do anything. You posted a wrong assumption & got called out on it.

An F430 looks in no way like an F50 but they are Ferraris. A Reventón is very much like an LP640 Murciélago (and like an LP670-4 SV in the front). When I think of Lamborghini, I think of the Countach's basic frame and then an evolution of power and facelifts.

Then you'd obviously haven't the first clue about each car's development if you believe the Diablo & Murcielago came from the Countach's design.

No more games, McLaren.

No more incorrect assumptions?

When you see a Corvette, you know it is a Corvette, whether or not it's the new C6 '09 ZR1 or a '74 Stingray Coupe. They resemble one another despite the time gap. But what comes second is Chevrolet. When you see a Corvette, you think of Corvette, then Chevrolet second. And that's why Corvettes are so recognizable; because they look so alike.

When you see a Lamborghini, you know it is a Lamborghini, whether or not it's a Countach, Gallardo LP 560-4 or the Reventón. But typically, you think of Lamborghini first, and then the model second. And that's why Lamborghini models are so recognizable; because they look so alike.

There is a difference to identifying a car by its model & identifying it by their manufacturer.

However, this argument doesn't work. If people can recognize Lamborghini by their shape, why do they need to change? Why does Lamborghini need to do something different if other cars are even identified as Lamborghini? If anything, this works in their favor.

I could say Ferrari need to update themselves & do something different besides applying Rosso Corsa as their "official" color, but there's no reason to. That's their color, that's what makes them, them. Same with BMW. The kidney grill is their distinct trait.

Now, the reason your post before was silly was because you said they are updated versions of the Countach. This can't possibly be true. The Countach design was based upon a series of trapezoid panels & angles, making the car wide, but short. The Diablo, however, ended up being long & low, the aggressiveness turned down with a few cues being taken from a fighter jet at the time. It only shares a few styling cues with the Countach. If you really want to see how the Diablo's design is nothing like the Countach, take a look at the Cizeta as that's how the Diablo was supposed to look before Chrysler toned it down.
As for the Murcielago, it's design came from Audi's Luc Donckerwolcke who was informed to do something completely different from the original Diablo successor after creating the 6.0 & went for a much more rounded shape over the Diablo's.

As for the Gallardo, Luc & his team were told go with something that would be more agile & be more usable, which was everything the Countach & Diablo weren't.

 

[kjacobs03]

As someone who actually ownes the 1:18 Autoart Lamborghini Reventon and still has the box, That is not the box! The Reventon box has the plastic windows on all 4 sides and top, so no giant Lambo emblem on the side.

 

[Gezim]

Obviously this car is going to be in the game. Why the **** wouldn't it?

They DO have the Lamborghini license.

 

[L8 Apex]

The Diablo VT was the first AWD Lambo!!

The LM002 begs to differ...

 

[Micdog49]

As someone who actually ownes the 1:18 Autoart Lamborghini Reventon and still has the box, That is not the box! The Reventon box has the plastic windows on all 4 sides and top, so no giant Lambo emblem on the side.

We figured that already. But what box is it then, if it's obviously a 1:18 Autoart Lamborghini?

Autoart also make slotcars, so could it be a bigger version of a slot car box? Diablo for example?

 

[Alfred1220]

Besides Reventon, I'd also like to see "Concept S" and "Murcielago RGT"

 

[analog]

HAHA! Ok, once more.

When you see a Corvette, you know it is a Corvette, whether or not it's the new C6 '09 ZR1 or a '74 Stingray Coupe. They resemble one another despite the time gap. But what comes second is Chevrolet. When you see a Corvette, you think of Corvette, then Chevrolet second. And that's why Corvettes are so recognizable; because they look so alike.

When you see a Lamborghini, you know it is a Lamborghini, whether or not it's a Countach, Gallardo LP 560-4 or the Reventón. But typically, you think of Lamborghini first, and then the model second. And that's why Lamborghini models are so recognizable; because they look so alike.

Most people who are not interested ( like me ) in vacuum cleaners would call them hoovers even if they were made by Bosch, Philips or Dyson, etc.
Likewise most people who are not interested in cars ( unlike me and most of you ) would probably call every SUV a Jeep and every exotic-looking sportscar a Ferrari even if it were to be either a Corvette or Lambo.
The last decade or so the Corvette has been sold in Europe as a seperate brand, also because most Chevrolets sold here are rebadged Deawoo's, so it is deliberately separated to be more exclusive.
But your argument all Corvette's are basically evolutions only works for the past 30 years or so, before they were much more revolutionary.
So from a historic perspective there is no strict formula for what a Corvette should look like, except perhaps a FR V-8 powered plastic-bodied two-door.
But there was a mid-engined rotary-engined Corvette concept car in the early seventies.
The same argument for what makes a Lambo look like a Lambo also only works for the past 20-30 years as they mainly concentrated on mid-engined supercars ( except their first 4WD car, the LM002 ), before they also made beautiful front-engined cars like the Islero and Espada, etc.
Last year they launched a FR 4-door concept with styling cues from the Reventon, so i think you might confuse a succesful model-formula ( Corvette ) with a corporate identity ( Lambo ).
Anyway here is an example of what a Corvette could look like if it was to be designed in Italy It's called Spada Codatranca and it's based on the latest Corvette ( only a concept for now ).

 

[G.T.Ace]

I agree with everything you wrote, but damn the Spada is ugly.
Looks like someone built a car from a shot down F-117.

 

[analog]

I agree with everything you wrote, but damn the Spada is ugly.
Looks like someone built a car from a shot down F-117.

You probably can't argue about taste, although i agree it isn't "conventionally attractive" but i would still choose it over a regular 'Vette....

 

[G.T.Ace]

Of course, its a matter of taste. 👍

 

[zeromobius]

Whats up with that stealth looking car? Is that the new Batmobile?