LCC Rocket Spot Race Series (stock) - March 23rd, 10pm GMTOpen 

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RDAardvark
Is that because it is red? We all know that red cars are faster.
I always thought those things were for either setting off the fire extinguisher or for releasing the bonnet (hood).
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I believe it's for retrieving ones sorry ass from the sand trap after an off. :dunce:
 
The '86, even with CS tires this thing is still FAR too grippy in my book. That being said;

I took the BRZ and the 86 'Racing' around the 'nurb and had a quick look at there vital statistics, the 86 'Racing' does indeed have harder suspension and a different engine note - like it has a performance exhaust system, even though it's power output is identical to the BRZ, for the record the gearbox is the same.

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Now for the surprises. Despite the IDENTICAL power curve, engine rev limiters, and gear ratios the 86 'Racing' is around 1.5/2mph faster on two places on the 'nurb, it also achieves 137mph maxing in 5th gear as opposed to 136mph for the BRZ - very odd.

The 86 'Racing' is significantly slower overall than the stock BRZ. Around the 'nurb where I'm normally consistent to around half a second with these 400-450PP cars, the stock BRZ on CS tires achieved a low 8:20 lap - I BARELY broke the 8:23's with the 86 'Racing'. I believe these two cars DO have entirely equal overall traction but the 86 'Racing' understeers significantly with it's different suspension, and this inability to make the rear do any work means you have less traction available overall.

CONCLUSION. I'm not a fan of either to be honest - they could both use another 50hp. That being said they would provide close racing I'm near certain, but for me they would lack the heart-racing moments where you're on a knife-edge trying to get it to hang on as you're blitzing a qualifying lap. We can also categorically say we can't mix BRZ's with the 86 'Racing' as they perform significantly differently, which means we would have to choose one - and I would go for th BRZ over the 86 'Racing' in this case because it's not so much of a yawn-worthy understeer fest.
 
Check the Toyota dealership, there's a 2010 86 GT with a wing and carbon fiber hood. It has more power and is a bit more exciting to drive than the standard car(s).
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MC-Chase
The '86, even with CS tires this thing is still FAR too grippy in my book. That being said;

I took the BRZ and the 86 'Racing' around the 'nurb and had a quick look at there vital statistics, the 86 'Racing' does indeed have harder suspension and a different engine note - like it has a performance exhaust system, even though it's power output is identical to the BRZ, for the record the gearbox is the same.

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Now for the surprises. Despite the IDENTICAL power curve, engine rev limiters, and gear ratios the 86 'Racing' is around 1.5/2mph faster on two places on the 'nurb, it also achieves 137mph maxing in 5th gear as opposed to 136mph for the BRZ - very odd.

The 86 'Racing' is significantly slower overall than the stock BRZ. Around the 'nurb where I'm normally consistent to around half a second with these 400-450PP cars, the stock BRZ on CS tires achieved a low 8:20 lap - I BARELY broke the 8:23's with the 86 'Racing'. I believe these two cars DO have entirely equal overall traction but the 86 'Racing' understeers significantly with it's different suspension, and this inability to make the rear do any work means you have less traction available overall.

CONCLUSION. I'm not a fan of either to be honest - they could both use another 50hp. That being said they would provide close racing I'm near certain, but for me they would lack the heart-racing moments where you're on a knife-edge trying to get it to hang on as you're blitzing a qualifying lap. We can also categorically say we can't mix BRZ's with the 86 'Racing' as they perform significantly differently, which means we would have to choose one - and I would go for th BRZ over the 86 'Racing' in this case because it's not so much of a yawn-worthy understeer fest.
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I understand where you're coming from but there's much more to racing than a blistering qualy lap... I definitely think a car like this would close up the field quite a bit over the course of a race distance so everyone isn't 10-20 or more seconds apart running around by themselves as has been the case in the two races I've entered. Just my $0.02 :indiff:
 
^undeniably true that Naptown! Just giving my two pence/cents on it - it's fully open to vote, I'm not saying no to anything (without downforce and racing tires!)
 
I agree with Nap (but don't tell him I said that). Sometimes slower cars make for better racing even if they're not as fun when hot lapping. I would rather battle door-to-door until the finish then have a 10 second lead for the last 20 laps......although that was my sweetest victory ever. :D But even slower cars can only do so much to lessen the gap so it's not the end all be all solution. Just an opinion.

The M4 coupe might be worth looking at, I don't believe it's being used by anyone else right now.
 
Ugh, the M4 has horrible handling without SRF. To me at least. Inexperienced players would need lots of practice to keep it on the track, let alone win races.
 
hobbsy
How about... Toyota SPRINTER TRUENO GT-APEX (AE86 Shuichi Shigeno Version) '00?

Just a thought.
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Quite ashamed to admit it, but I was a huge Initial-D fan as a teenager! And that 86 is far superior to the others :p.
 
MatheusBond
Ugh, the M4 has horrible handling without SRF. To me at least. Inexperienced players would need lots of practice to keep it on the track, let alone win races.
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Fair enough. I think I only drove it for the seasonals. There might be some other good ones in the BMW dealership though.
 
M3, seem to be pretty great, at least the slightly older ones. S2000 or maybe the miata touring car?

I do have to say, after being unable to get on for the last week and a half or so, the rocket really is superb! I got on ran a few different cars briefly then grabbed the rocket, and man it's good fun. So good luck topping that one mc!
 
Tried out the two original Corollas that bore the '86' nickname. Both superb, both the Initial-D version and the standard; the standard I have just come to love within the last 10 minutes.

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So now I'm casting a vote because I can't be bothered to test anything else. Here's the deal, you get two votes - one for your number one choice and another vote for your second choice. Peoples first choice has a score of 2 and a second choice has a score of 1, whatever car ends with the most total points wins. Here's your choices;

- Shifter Karts (SS)
- BRZ/GT86 (multi-series) (CS)
- 7 Fireblade (SH)
- TVR Tuscan (SH)
- GT86 'Racing' (CS)
- AE86 levin/trueno (multi-series) (CS)
- AE86 Initial-D version (SH)
- TomyKaira ZZ-S (SH)
- Renault Alpine A110 (CS)

I'll start;

First choice: AE86 multi-series
Second choice: Shifter Karts

Running totals;

BRZ/GT86: 2
AE86 Initial-D version: 2
AE86 multi-series: 2
Shifter Karts: 5
7 Fireblade: 1
Renault Alpine (?): 1
Tuscan: 2

EDIT: If I've 'liked' your post I've added you votes to the score.
 
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My vote:

First Choice: BRZ/86GT/FR-S (CS)
Second Choice: Alpine A110 1600S '72 (CS) - write in because I didn't care enough for any of the other choices to choose one over the Alpine.
 
What about the Abarth 500 or Grande Punto? They look like they'll be big fun in large groups.
There are also the Standard Renault Clio trophy cars but i don't know how they perform in terms of grip, etc
 
We've had total over 20+ cars being suggested, how can we possibly come to a consensus with that many?
 
First choice: Tuscan Speed 6
Second choice: Shifter Karts

I dont think ill be able to make it this weekend or next weekend because of the Super Bowl of American Football. I dont see a reason not to run Rocket cars as a series from now until GT7 comes out.
 
Torzilla
First choice: Tuscan Speed 6
Second choice: Shifter Karts

I dont think ill be able to make it this weekend or next weekend because of the Super Bowl of American Football. I dont see a reason not to run Rocket cars as a series from now until GT7 comes out.
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Probably keep it going as long as possible! The problem is the tracks, there just isn't that many of them with short enough straights to keep the Rocket from not maxing out and just bouncing on the limiter, me, Brandon, and Naptown pretty much got every track that was viable on the calendar.
 
BrandonW77
I don't think the Alpine is on the list.
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Apologies, I put it on the running points list. Anyone who wishes to revise their vote can do, though, I'm NOT adding anything more on here. That's it, or we're going to end up with 10 or 20 cars with 2 votes a piece - and that's not going to work.
 
MC-Chase
Probably keep it going as long as possible! The problem is the tracks, there just isn't that many of them with short enough straights to keep the Rocket from not maxing out and just bouncing on the limiter, me, Brandon, and Naptown pretty much got every track that was viable on the calendar.
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I'd have absolutely no objection to just starting over and going back through the list as many times as it takes to get burnt out on this car, if that's even possible.
 
Naptown25rs
I'd have absolutely no objection to just starting over and going back through the list as many times as it takes to get burnt out on this car, if that's even possible.
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I generally concur. There are a few tracks I didn't test and maybe a couple on the "no" list that could be used when we run out of the others. This car doesn't draft as much as I expected, especially with slipstream on "real" so I might have ruled a couple out that could actually be useable.

And once the course maker comes out we can make all the Rocket tracks we want. I loved building courses in GT5 so eventually we will have all the courses we need. 👍

Because the Rocket is such a quirky/unique car I kinda feel like if we do switch it should be to something else quirky/unique. But there's no logic behind that reasoning. We still have several weeks of Rocket racing left so no reason to rush into something new that we don't all like as much or more than the Rocket. 👍
 

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