Learning Nurburgring Nordschleife - Answer

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Learning Nurburgring Nordschleife - Answer
Not sure if this would work for everyone. but it is an idea I had, and I wanted to pass it along.

Learning the Nurb.. can be daunting to say the least. That is why they call it "The Green Hell". This process can take awhile as well. The idea is to run the Track with out the idea of making any sort of goal other than running it smooth (With out mess ups). The hard part is to remember where those parts are that you have problems with.

Step 1: Run the track. 1 Or 2 laps, Your choice. (Forget timer, Run it Normally to find your weak spots)

Step 2: Save the replay.

Step 3: Play the replay and use this map.
When you get to a point where you have crashed, Went off the track or any spot where you have had to recover, Pause and mark it on the map. (Print, Digital, or mental mark)
Once you know where on the track you have problems, the better you will know what to work on.

The down side to this is the Nurb is long, and this process may take a lot of time but My thought behind it is, The more you know of what you need to work on for that track the better off you know.

Hope this helps.
GyverX
 
Worth a bash..

Personally I've been addicted since PGR2 days and all I can say is practice, practice, practice.
Swearing and shouting is also a must 👍
 
The questions is: where is the full Nurb ring track??

I just started the game, currently at Level 5 A spec.

Sorry for such ignorant question.

I supposed this will be unlocked somewhere/sometime later, could anyone please confirm? I wanted to run on this track in the arcade mode, but couldn't see it.
 
CTznOfTime
The questions is: where is the full Nurb ring track??

I just started the game, currently at Level 5 A spec.

Sorry for such ignorant question.

I supposed this will be unlocked somewhere/sometime later, could anyone please confirm? I wanted to run on this track in the arcade mode, but couldn't see it.
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If you don't have it unlocked then do the "special" area for the AMG runs. Dont try to pass it just try to learn it. Once you have a better understanding of the track the better off you will be for running it. The AMG Special runs try to give you a better understanding of the track but its pieces at a time and there is no dialog for letting you know what you need to work on.

Hope this helps.
GyverX
 
Thanks Gyver 👍 and Ya Pops! ;)

Your process (Gyver) of learning a track to drive faster is very good!
I think i might do it for each and every single circuit out there.

I wish people have more patient to go though this academic way of learning how drive faster. They would certainly pick up a few things here and there that they are missing.
 
I prefer the AMG event with the SL300. You concentrate on learning one part at a time and when you think you know each of them well enough, you start doing full laps and puting it all together. Worked wonders for me.
 
The Nurb is the largest, and longest lapping track out there. If you can use this process to learn it to make your LAP times better with each run, then using this process on other tracks would be a breeze. Staying on the trac is important, but knowing the corners of any given track is paramount. The faster you can get in and out, the faster your lap. (For those that dont know)
 
learning nurbs isn´t easy. Gt4 whas when i had my first contact with it. I were really fast in some sectors, but slown in others, specially the last corners before the long straight, with those ups and downs, blind corners etc. But i´ve played a loooooooot of time in other simulators such rFactor, and now i can say i know it all. I´m not fast as some of you...but i really can do a bunch of good and clean laps there. My tip is: Race it by sectors, clean up every sector, and then, go for the whole track... thats the way i´ve got it. 👍
 
I used this method in gt4, only problem is that even though I don't make mistakes in the same places I now lose it on any random part when I'm pushing it.
 
I didn't find it necessary to learn the track to pass the AMG events so it could be unlocked. I managed all for bronze quite comfortably first attempt each by using the following technique:

- if you can't see it clear, slow down
- if in doubt, slow down and power out
- take careful note of how sharp the corner is. Err on the side of slowing down

and...

- where you can see it is clear, FLOOR IT!!! Don't be shy!

plus....

- look at the map. It isn't a perfect guide, but it will tell you if there is a hairpin approaching. But mostly I just look ahead and judge the corner by eye.

I was quite slow in a couple of corners I didn't need to be, but that's still a lot quicker than crashing and I could get back on the power very early as a result. I nearly came off the track a couple of times but managed to slow it and keep it on the track even though I was ultraslow out of that corner. The brakes are very good on both the cars.

However to get silver I would have to learn the track so I have a clue what corner is coming up next. Right now I have no idea at all.
 
Mr Turismo
...Gt4 whas when i had my first contact with it. I were really fast in some sectors, but slown in others, specially the last corners before the long straight, with those ups and downs, blind corners etc...
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It always felt like there were heavy cross-winds around the Pflanzgarten I & II sections. I'm glad to say it's a lot calmer in GT5 (so far...)
 
I learned it while playing GT4 with our best friend. We sat down, raced, and tried to beat each others record. Over and over and over. Did I say over? I think got over the 100's of laps there... And with success. We all know it by heart now. Like OP said, learn your weak spots. Those are important.
 
You'll soon find that there are several key corners that you have to get right for a fast lap.

Obviously they're all 'key', but some more than others.
 
Just go round and round and round...and round (and round). Practice makes perfect but it is definitely worth it.

My advice: Go to your lounge and create a ring track, set the time for 6:20am ish with time progression on 1 and you'll get a track with no annoying shadows across the track to put you off and you'll be treated with lots of misty parts when you get deep into the forest.
If you haven't seen it at that time of day you'll be surprised how realistic and fun it is to drive.

I chose a Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X to learn the track and I love the combination so much I often happily race with it online against the supercharge bumper kidz.
Yeah some might win the race but it feels so good passing them, which happens quite often. They get very pissed off with that.

The point of my post: Practice loads and you'll beat much better cars at any time of day. It really is worth it!

Most of all, have fun!

Cheers.

Additional: a couple of hours should be enough to learn the track. Not much really when you think of all the people you'll be racing in the years to come who don't have a clue. It's gonna be a fun 2011 on The Green Hell...Muhaahaahaaaaa...
 
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GyverX
Learning Nurburgring Nordschleife - Answer
Not sure if this would work for everyone. but it is an idea I had, and I wanted to pass it along.

Learning the Nurb.. can be daunting to say the least. That is why they call it "The Green Hell". This process can take awhile as well. The idea is to run the Track with out the idea of making any sort of goal other than running it smooth (With out mess ups). The hard part is to remember where those parts are that you have problems with.

Step 1: Run the track. 1 Or 2 laps, Your choice. (Forget timer, Run it Normally to find your weak spots)

Step 2: Save the replay.

Step 3: Play the replay and use this map.
When you get to a point where you have crashed, Went off the track or any spot where you have had to recover, Pause and mark it on the map. (Print, Digital, or mental mark)
Once you know where on the track you have problems, the better you will know what to work on.

The down side to this is the Nurb is long, and this process may take a lot of time but My thought behind it is, The more you know of what you need to work on for that track the better off you know.

Hope this helps.
GyverX
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I learned it buy simply putting down thousands of laps over the years. I think beginners may have problems with your method.

Kai...
 
I agree, only method is practice pratice & practice ...
Maybe start with a slow car before you change to something like minolta or audi r8 ...
and take a look to real race videos ;)
 
The AMG driving school is a good way to learn the nurb, or re-learn in my case. It breaks it down into smaller sectors before making you do the whole lap.
 
Sabine Schmidt said to never brake while in the carousel. I never did a perfect (non crashing) carousel before I knew of that.

Also, I think it was Jackie Stewart that said aim for the tallest tree when going into the carousel. It's there in gt4 but it's gone in gt5! I hope they do an update and put the tree back.
 

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