Legendary cars dealer refresh

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Old_Setzer
And still have the arrow down, so will low more in the next appearance, right?

I'm still waiting to buy it, but seeing that the price could drop, I might wait until the next one.
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hmmm, I don't think that arrow means the price is continuing to drop necessarily. I think it just means that the current price is lower than the last time it appeared.
 
ZevZoq
hmmm, I don't think that arrow means the price is continuing to drop necessarily. I think it just means that the current price is lower than the last time it appeared.
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IIRC, the arrows show what the price will be the next time it appears.
 
sejtur
It works like that though :)
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Does it? I mean I'm not saying that a down arrow won't also be followed by the price continuing to drop. I just think the arrow indicates the change since the previous appearance. In other words, the price has dropped since last time, and perhaps it might continue to drop. Or perhaps not...
 
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ZevZoq
Does it? I mean I'm not saying that a down arrow won't also be followed by the price continuing to drop. I just think the arrow indicates the change since the previous appearance. In other words, the price has dropped since last time, and perhaps it might continue to drop. Or perhaps not...
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It should predict the price change for the next price update, and not what happened already. We’ll see I guess
 
sejtur
It should predict the price change for the next price update, and not what happened already. We’ll see I guess
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why should it predict the price change? What would be the reasoning for PD to tell everyone that the price is going down in the next update? Why would anyone buy the car now then? The pricing is sort of based on real world pricing too isn't it? Did the 250GT have a price drop arrow beside it before the price dropped?

I could certainly be mistaken though! lol...I confess to not having really paid any attention to the arrows in the past.
 
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ZevZoq
why should it predict the price change? What would be the reasoning for PD to tell everyone that the price is going down in the next update? Why would anyone buy the car now then? The pricing is sort of based on real world pricing too isn't it? Did the 250GT have a price drop arrow beside it before the price dropped?

I could certainly be mistaken though! lol...I confess to not having really paid any attention to the arrows in the past.
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It tells the player to wait with the purchase, which would mean more player engagement 3 months later when it appears again.
 
Can anyone actually confirm any of this? We have two opposing theories here, and no concrete conclusion. I always assumed (because why wouldn't you?) that the arrow is showing that the price has dropped from it's previous price-point. It seems odd that it would show what is coming down the line, when PD don't utilize this method for any other of the games metrics. I'm not saying it isn't showing where the price is going (up or down accordingly), but I've personally never seen anything that would suggest this to be true. Of course, I could be wrong. So, is there anything concrete we can point to that would indicate what PD intended with this feature?
 
After doing a bit of research, most of the info (I was able to find in a quick search) does seem to show that the arrows indicate the price is going to increase/decrease in the future. The prices are based on real world metrics, so PD essentially is letting us know that they have noticed an increase/drop in a vehicles value, and the dealership will reflect that the next time it updates.

Learn something new everyday.

It still seems odd, though. There's not much to indicate that is what they intended (in game). I suppose it's another situation where PD be doin' PD things. :lol:
 
It's logical that the real price would have a "drop," but I always read that the arrow indicates future price changes, so weeks ago I took a screenshot of a car with the arrow to confirm firsthand what the reality is going forward.

So I just have to wait for the same car to reappear :lol:
 
ShonnDaylee
After doing a bit of research, most of the info (I was able to find in a quick search) does seem to show that the arrows indicate the price is going to increase/decrease in the future. The prices are based on real world metrics, so PD essentially is letting us know that they have noticed an increase/drop in a vehicles value, and the dealership will reflect that the next time it updates.

Learn something new everyday.

It still seems odd, though. There's not much to indicate that is what they intended (in game). I suppose it's another situation where PD be doin' PD things. :lol:
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I wonder what happens if the real world price goes down - and a down arrow appears in the LCD - and then up again before an update.
 
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ShonnDaylee
Have you seen this happen?
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oh heck no lol...I don't pay that much attention to this stuff. :lol: But if the in game pricing is based on what a given car sold for at auction...I could see the pricing bouncing around a bit unpredictably. I suppose in the case of that though then the car would just appear at a new price but with another arrow beside it indicating the price was going to go back the other way. 🤷‍♀️ It's all very confusing! lol
 
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ZevZoq
I wonder what happens if the real world price goes down - and a down arrow appears in the LCD - and then up again before an update.
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I think the price would go down the next cycle, and up in the cycle after that. But like you guys I haven’t really been paying much attention to it.
 
MIE1992
The Ferrari 250 GT Berlinetta should have a down arrow near it, seeing how it went down a whopping 800k since it last appeared!
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We just reached the consensus that the arrow is for the next appearance, so it should go down even more in three months.

And yes, it does have a down arrow.
 
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As a whole, the classic car market has had a downturn (in the last year or so), so we should be seeing this trend continue. I doubt any of the 20 Mil cars are going to change much (as I imagine most of their values are well above GT7's self imposed 20 Mil cap), but hopefully we'll see some more drops in the sub-20 Mil range. Fingers crossed.
 
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ShonnDaylee
As a whole, the classic car market has had a downturn (in the last year or so), so we should be seeing this trend continue. I doubt any of the 20 Mil cars are going to change much (as I image most of their values are well above GT7's self imposed 20 Mil cap), but hopefully we'll see some more drops in the sub-20 Mil range. Fingers crossed.
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To your point, I don't see the Ferrari 250 GTO going below 20m within GT7, as it's worth around $50m IRL! I even got to see CN.4091 - with the "Series II" bodywork - at the 2024 Greenwich Concours d'Elegance!
 
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MIE1992
To your point, I don't see the Ferrari 250 GTO going below 20m within GT7, as it's worth around $50m IRL! I even got to see CN.4091 - with the "Series II" bodywork - at the 2024 Greenwich Concours d'Elegance!
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I have been wondering about that. There is little to no information online about the reasoning behind this particular drop (in the LCD), as it doesn't seem to conform with how the pricing usually works in GT7. If anyone has any info, now is your time to speak up. I haven't been able to find anything showing a real world drop in the price of the aforementioned Ferrari (current value). There is a load of information about the recent cooling of the classic car market (recent as in the last year and a half), but that would indicate a drop across the board, which we haven't seen. Of course some vehicles will be affected more than others (due to rarity mostly), but there should be an overall drop that we would be able to see in game (over the last year or so). So, it would seem there is more to the decision making process than just the vehicles real world value that goes into PD raising or lowering the in-game value. Alas, we likely will never know what exactly PD is thinking before making these decisions (do we EVER, really?) unless a few of our insiders feel like chiming in.
 
Well the prices are supposed to be based on Hagerty's so when the prices going down there they are supposed to reflected in the LCD. There used to be a thread in GT7 forum where they kept track of LCD prices
 
kjb
Well the prices are supposed to be based on Hagerty's so when the prices going down there they are supposed to reflected in the LCD. There used to be a thread in GT7 forum where they kept track of LCD prices
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Exactly the point. The current evaluation from Haggerty is between 4 - 9 million dollars (USD), and hasn't changed recently, as far as I can tell.
 
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To be fair, a lot of Ferraris have ”underperformed” at auctions since last years Monterey car week. With some exceptions of course. So I wouldn’t be surprised with some more price drops!
 
MIE1992
To your point, I don't see the Ferrari 250 GTO going below 20m within GT7, as it's worth around $50m IRL! I even got to see CN.4091 - with the "Series II" bodywork - at the 2024 Greenwich Concours d'Elegance!
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I just noticed your little typo(?) The vehicle in question is the Ferrari 250 GT (SWB), not the 250 GTO. The GTO is still 20 Million (and it will likely stay there for the reasons we've outlined). The 250 GT is currently 7 Million (dollars), which I still can't find much of a reasoning for. Values of the 250 GT have been around 4 - 9 million for the last few years. So, I'm not sure what caused it to drop as of recent.

I think PD has a limit of 20 million for their cars. Which I am thankful for
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I literally pointed that out in a previous post.
 
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ShonnDaylee
I just noticed your little typo(?) The vehicle in question is the Ferrari 250 GT (SWB), not the 250 GTO. The GTO is still 20 Million (and it will likely stay there for the reasons we've outlined). The 250 GT is currently 7 Million (dollars), which I still can't find much of a reasoning for. Values of the 250 GT have been around 4 - 9 million for the last few years. So, I'm not sure what caused it to drop as of recent.
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I’m aware of the difference, it’s just that the 250 GTO seems to be a good example of a car that happens to be from the same brand (and decade) that will never drop below 20m credits.
 
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MIE1992
I’m aware of the difference, it’s just that the 250 GTO seems to be a good example of a car that happens to be from the same brand (and decade) that will never drop below 20m credits.
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Simple misunderstanding then. As you were, sir.
 
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ShonnDaylee
Simple misunderstanding then. As you were, sir.
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Understood! I don't foresee the McLaren F1 getting below 20m, either, though it does seem to be worth around $20m IRL, so who knows? Though if I had to bet on it, I'd imagine on it going far above that.
 
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