Let's discuss the company PD hates most, McLaren!

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Voodoovaj
GR2 Mclaren - nothing, nada, zip
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PD, please :nervous:
 
Voodoovaj
Yup, but PD HATES MCLAREN so NO GROUP TWO FOR YOU!!!!



Portuguese is so different from Italian!! I can follow Spanish, but not Portuguese.

I hope he's saying kind things :D. I've raced against him lots. Good guy.
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Just nice things, even about the Ferrari guy that drives him off near the end. He is very technical about racecraft.

If you can understand Spanish, Portuguese becomes possible :D
 
talhaONE
They are mediocre not terrible.
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Me and a Norwegian DR S driver qualified them 19th and 20th in Manufacturers yesterday. With 25% of the grid the same, we qualified 5th and 7th in Clios in Nations and I finished 2nd. The same driver won both races, and I lost 1.2s a lap to him in Manufacturers but 0.1s a lap to him in Nations.

I race with that Norwegian driver very often. We finished 2nd and 3rd a few weeks back in GR Supra GT Cup, and 2nd and 5th after that. The McLaren Gr.4 drives nicely, but stinks.
 
I dont think pd hates any manufacturer if so a lot of the cars would not be in the game.

Bop of this game is nothing more than hits and misses.
 
ARTAsean
You must not have been around at launch, or, the first ~3 months of the game for that matter :lol::lol::lol: that Megane, it was like racing a damn Gr.3. Untouchable.
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I was there at launch when the Megane dominated. But I didn't want to go with the crowd and I was determined to upset a few drivers. And even when I did use the Megane, I couldn't win because everyone else was using it!
 
Is it really that bad!? I want to give the GR3 a race now!

Nik Makozi won the last FIA Nations cup in the Mclaren GR4 at Suzuka in our region (minus the incident at the end, he drove the car very well to get it to where it needed to be)

I drove the Mclaren GR1 at La Sarthe in the last daily races we had. A very interesting car, not the best but certainly not the worst.
 
The Gr4 McLaren is alright but the rest are awful. The gr3 650 needs some love, it has no redeeming qualities. The F1 is at least fast on the straights but the brakes are bad. The F1 shouldn’t even be in gr3 imho.
 
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The major problem with the Gr.1 and Gr.4 cars is the fuel efficiency, they are both very poor compared to other cars. I managed to race the Gr.1 McLaren at Fuji relatively successfully in FIA race where nearly everyone else was in the Porsche. Gr.4 car is ok for pace (it's never the meta car) but it struggles massively when fuel is brought into races.

Gr.3 car is fine. It isn't the best but it certainly isn't the worst. I raced a season of FIA a while ago and it was fine, if a bit twitchy for my skill level. I Had decent races with it at Brands and Suzuka. I would say it is a middle of the pack car.

I have raced VW, Peugeot, McLaren, Chevrolet & Mitsubishi over the seasons and I would say Mitsubishi is by far the worst manufacturer. All the others had some redeeming features (as well as glaring issues, looking at your tyre wear gr.4 Pug), but the Mitsu is brutally slow in Gr.4 and just poor in Gr.3.
 
MikeV27
. The F1 is at least fast on the straights but the brakes are bad. The F1 shouldn’t even be in gr3 imho.
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Gr.3 is the closest class for that car. Any class different from that would be beyond stupid.
 
talhaONE
Gr.3 is the closest class for that car. Any class different from that would be beyond stupid.
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Yeah if you have to nerf the **** out of a car to make it half ass balanced with the others then it probably shouldn’t be there, imo.
 
MikeV27
Yeah if you have to nerf the **** out of a car to make it half ass balanced with the others then it probably shouldn’t be there, imo.
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F1 gets almost the same downgrade as Ford gt lm spec 2. Whats your point? Just because its downgraded more then others means its no longer belongs to that class?

F1 is in the place where it should be. Leave it alone.
 
Voodoovaj
Kind of irrelevant in this context, no?

Otherwise, what's the excuse for the GR3 Beetle? There's also no gr3 RCZ in real life. You should be considering GTSport as a series unto itself, after all it is e-sports. This is not the "real GT3 simulator"
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I mean in the context of it being under-powered.

Voodoovaj
GR1 McLaren - Terrible.... GR1 Nissan R92 great/LM GTR terrible - 1 point to Nissan!
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If you know what you're doing and put the brake bias to the back around 3-4 then on some tracks you can win with the LM GTR.
 
Phaceless_Ph
I mean in the context of it being under-powered.



If you know what you're doing and put the brake bias to the back around 3-4 then on some tracks you can win with the LM GTR.
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I'd be very interested in using a competitive GT-R LM.

Are there any decent setups for casual public lobbies?
 
Cap'n Jack
That’s a GT300 car, Super GT’s equivalent of Group 3. Either way, I’d love to see the 720S GT3 in GT Sport. It’s such a pretty race car.
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I’m aware of that. FYI, 2019 GT300 is only slightly slower than the ‘08 cars which BoP’d into Gr.2 already.

If PD wants to keep Gr.2 exclusively SuperGT, this car could be included just fine. Certainly would be less out of place than Gr.C in Gr.1.
 
ARTAsean
I’m aware of that. FYI, 2019 GT300 is only slightly slower than the ‘08 cars which BoP’d into Gr.2 already.

If PD wants to keep Gr.2 exclusively SuperGT, this car could be included just fine. Certainly would be less out of place than Gr.C in Gr.1.
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720S is a GT3 so it makes sense to be in Gr.3. Also factor in painters who’ll be producing.......GT3 liveries.

The most suitable Gr.2 Mclaren is the F1 GTR long-tail. That car could fit in the class along with the other ‘90’s GT1’s.
 
ARTAsean
I’m aware of that. FYI, 2019 GT300 is only slightly slower than the ‘08 cars which BoP’d into Gr.2 already.

If PD wants to keep Gr.2 exclusively SuperGT, this car could be included just fine. Certainly would be less out of place than Gr.C in Gr.1.
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I get where you’re coming from, but it’s a bit of a head **** when you consider many of the 720S GT3’s competitors are already in Group 3. Using the same logic, you’d might as well move the M6, AMG, RCF, etc. into Group 2.
 
The F1 GTR was good for me especially in This week’s Race C (Sardegna Road B). I had to brake earlier but managed to get 3rd.
 
Cap'n Jack
I get where you’re coming from, but it’s a bit of a head **** when you consider many of the 720S GT3’s competitors are already in Group 3. Using the same logic, you’d might as well move the M6, AMG, RCF, etc. into Group 2.
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AlanH49
720S is a GT3 so it makes sense to be in Gr.3. Also factor in painters who’ll be producing.......GT3 liveries.

The most suitable Gr.2 Mclaren is the F1 GTR long-tail. That car could fit in the class along with the other ‘90’s GT1’s.
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I mean you guys are not wrong, but like I said, if PD wants Gr.2 exclusively SuperGT vehicles (which seems that way) and the BoP works, I can see it going there first. Especially considering the power that the 720s is capable of, which might be what’s swaying my decision. I will concede it would be kind of strange to see an 86 mother chassis in Gr.2.

Obviously they’ll have to draw the line somewhere, like the Castrol Supra which couldn’t compete even with a miracle.

I digress, I’d take both of those cars however I could get them.
 
ARTAsean
I mean you guys are not wrong, but like I said, if PD wants Gr.2 exclusively SuperGT vehicles (which seems that way) and the BoP works, I can see it going there first. Especially considering the power that the 720s is capable of, which might be what’s swaying my decision. I will concede it would be kind of strange to see an 86 mother chassis in Gr.2.

Obviously they’ll have to draw the line somewhere, like the Castrol Supra which couldn’t compete even with a miracle.

I digress, I’d take both of those cars however I could get them.
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Castrol supra is more like a gr.3 car then the current gr.2 cars.
 
ARTAsean
Yeah that’s what I mean. And the GT300 cars of that same JGTC era could go into Gr.4 easily enough.
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Normally Gr.4 is practially a gt4 class but since they added Renault Megane trophy in that class i dont see any problem at adding gt300 cars to gr.4.
 
F1 GTR is by far the fastest on the straights. Granted, it's limited to being dominant in only a few tracks, but if you can play its strengths it will steamroll anything on La Sarthe/Monza/Tokyo.

650S GT3 is personally my best handling MR Gr.3. I know a lot of people think it's slow but it's actually my top 3 car on most tracks. Dunno why, must be my driving style. It does like flowing corners more than stop-start ones though.

650S Gr.4, I agree is not very good. Handles well but far too slow in straights. Having said that, I've seen aliens do well with it so YMMV.

The Ultimate VGT Gr.1 has decent enough speed but like other VGTs that is not Alpine or LM55, gets dusted in corners by the hybrid LMPs and on the straights by Group Cs. Also, it has a deadly lift off oversteer under braking. Feels like the regen on the rear wheels is set too strong. Even with BB max front you still need to be careful and you just can't trail brake with any sort of confidence. Also the battery deploys too quickly and you're left with nothing if the straight is too long.

IMO, McLaren is far from the worst brand. Their cars are temperamental but if there is a circuit that suits them, or a driver that is good enough, they will be deadly. Mitsubishi or Citroen on the other hand... :lol:
 
LeGeNd-1
The Ultimate VGT Gr.1 has decent enough speed but like other VGTs that is not Alpine or LM55, gets dusted in corners by the hybrid LMPs and on the straights by Group Cs. Also, it has a deadly lift off oversteer under braking. Feels like the regen on the rear wheels is set too strong. Even with BB max front you still need to be careful and you just can't trail brake with any sort of confidence. Also the battery deploys too quickly and you're left with nothing if the straight is too long.
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They usually combat the real wheel regen issue by putting the brake bias towards the front. This is why F1 cars have to go heavy towards the rear whenever the hybrid systems fail.
 
Phaceless_Ph
They usually combat the real wheel regen issue by putting the brake bias towards the front. This is why F1 cars have to go heavy towards the rear whenever the hybrid systems fail.
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I know. I even said in my post even with BB (brake balance) max front the car is still twitchy as hell. Trying to brake into Indianapolis at Sarthe for example is always a pucker moment unless you really feather the brakes and keep at least half throttle.
 

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