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Logitech Driving Force EX (DFEX). 270 +/- degrees of rotation. Standard DS2 connector AND USB.
DS2. I'm all thumbs with this thing. It would take me a long time to re-educate my fingers to do what I've been doing with hands and feet all these years. Can not image being able to use MT. Grade = B.
Yamaha MS-1. Significant improvement over DS2 (for me). I didn't like the grip throttle so I reprogramed the buttons to use R1 (or maybe R2) for gas and the standard left brake lever (clutch on a real bike?) brakes. Worked well until something inside the left level broke and lost the brakes. Reprogramed brakes to L1 (or maybe L2). All plastic construction - so not the highest quality peripheral . Would be difficult to use the buttons for gas & brake and also be able to MT all at the same time. Grade = C.
DFEX. Not the perfect device for a motorcycle but it is compatible with TT. I used right foot gas, left foot brake (had not done this before with the DFP -- usually I used right foot for gas and brake -- but I think it helped in TT). The 270 +/- degree of rotation was a disadvantage (I think the Yamaha has about 1/2 that which would've been great) but you do get used to it. I was able to get through the Super Licenses with all silvers in about 90 minutes. Not bad considering this was my 1st time on many of the courses (with a motorcycle) Laguna, Infineon and Suzuka (full). A few others I had very limited time on too. So IMO an average of 9 minutes per test with a new controller is not too bad. Then in about 20-30 minutes I grabbed the Yamaha YZF-R1 RM '05. Again not bad considering this was my first ever attempt on the Valencia's full circuit. I could easily use the paddle shifters for MT with a little practice. This is my 3rd Logitech device (Momo Red, DFP), 4th if you count the short time with their XBOX wheel (BTW very disappointing IMO). If Logitech made a dedicated motorcycle contoller it would rock. The TT Grade = B+ (or maybe an A-)...but that's mostly because of the rotation >> and after all it's intended for cars.
I'll test the DFEX with GT4 and TRD3 and report back. I use a "cockpit" of sorts so it should would be nice not to have to swap around devices to play different games.
DS2. I'm all thumbs with this thing. It would take me a long time to re-educate my fingers to do what I've been doing with hands and feet all these years. Can not image being able to use MT. Grade = B.
Yamaha MS-1. Significant improvement over DS2 (for me). I didn't like the grip throttle so I reprogramed the buttons to use R1 (or maybe R2) for gas and the standard left brake lever (clutch on a real bike?) brakes. Worked well until something inside the left level broke and lost the brakes. Reprogramed brakes to L1 (or maybe L2). All plastic construction - so not the highest quality peripheral . Would be difficult to use the buttons for gas & brake and also be able to MT all at the same time. Grade = C.
DFEX. Not the perfect device for a motorcycle but it is compatible with TT. I used right foot gas, left foot brake (had not done this before with the DFP -- usually I used right foot for gas and brake -- but I think it helped in TT). The 270 +/- degree of rotation was a disadvantage (I think the Yamaha has about 1/2 that which would've been great) but you do get used to it. I was able to get through the Super Licenses with all silvers in about 90 minutes. Not bad considering this was my 1st time on many of the courses (with a motorcycle) Laguna, Infineon and Suzuka (full). A few others I had very limited time on too. So IMO an average of 9 minutes per test with a new controller is not too bad. Then in about 20-30 minutes I grabbed the Yamaha YZF-R1 RM '05. Again not bad considering this was my first ever attempt on the Valencia's full circuit. I could easily use the paddle shifters for MT with a little practice. This is my 3rd Logitech device (Momo Red, DFP), 4th if you count the short time with their XBOX wheel (BTW very disappointing IMO). If Logitech made a dedicated motorcycle contoller it would rock. The TT Grade = B+ (or maybe an A-)...but that's mostly because of the rotation >> and after all it's intended for cars.
I'll test the DFEX with GT4 and TRD3 and report back. I use a "cockpit" of sorts so it should would be nice not to have to swap around devices to play different games.