Logitech G27 or Fanatec Porsche 911 Turbo S? Need advice.

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1st Impressions:
Great wheel! What an upgrade from an old MS sidewinder with FBB.
I'm very happy with it, the H shifter is fantastic! In real life I currently drive a sports car with manual H shifter. I really feel great when playing with G27 using the H shifter! It's amazing! I really feel the adrenaline! I just tried it on my PS3 using NFS Shift and GT5P. Got to try it in my PC and play a bit of rFactor.

Cannot compare to other wheels but if anyone has got the same doubt that I had when I opened this thread, I can say... go to the G27. You wont be disappointed! :D:tup:
 
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Cannot compare to other wheels but if anyone has got the same doubt that I had when I opened this thread, I can say... go to the G27. You wont be disappointed! :D:tup:
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You see, told you that you already knew the answer. ;) :p
 
I got both g27 and fanatec gt3 rs v2.

in rfactor, lfs, iracing, dirt2, grid and gt5p the g27 beats the gt3 rs. gt3 rs v2 feels very slow compared to the g27. paddle shifter in the fanatec wheel are CRAP!!! its just a button. I installed the clubsport paddles and took them after 2 min off. the position is very very wrong. g27 paddle shifters are great. although in fanatec its nice to have an option to change wheel degree ect. and please dont tell me to use drift mode to make it rotate faster. its still sucks.

IMO the g27 is better than the fanatec gt3 rs v2.

my 2 weeks old fanatec wheel is back into the box.

Sorry for my bad english.
 
I like my turbo S way over my G25 (though it's also a nice wheel)
And to turn faster you need only to move faster!
i like on the fanatec that it doesn't turn as easy as the logitechs. I also hate that on new cars with too strong servo's. (it's for girls and old people)
And drifting with the turbo is loads better than the g25 (way to easy)
 
*ibo* S3 Racer And drifting with the turbo is loads better than the g25 (way to easy)[/QUOTE
So you like drifting with the Fanatec better, Seems alot say the Logitec is better for drifting.
I don't have a wheel yet and have not drifted before. If you can find the time to do it, could you please post a few more words on what drifting is like and how it is different with these two wheels,,Thanks
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I will need a little more time to get a real hold of it.
I will give my impressions of the wheel in the fanatec thread
till now i tried out GT5P, SSC and GTR2. I spent to much time on Forza and modding my rig to really can compare the ps3 games.
End of the week i should have gamed the poop out of it and then i will post my impressions.
But what really impress from the beginning on is the stiffness of the wheel when turning. I like the resistance of it. (without setting the FFB on max)
 
*ibo* S3 Racer
But what really impress from the beginning on is the stiffness of the wheel when turning. I like the resistance of it. (without setting the FFB on max)
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Thats what i really hate about the fanatec wheel. its as heavy as my old driving force gt but with new futures like the option to change settings.

also to me the ffb is more real in the g27. the fanatec casing is poor. u can hear it making crack noise when turning the wheel.

so for me the paddle shifters, wheel stiffness and poor casing makes it a no go.
its a good wheel but certainly not better than the g27
btw i dont like drifting.

people keep in mind that im talking about gt3 rs v2 and not about turbo s.
 
i give you the paddle shifter, loved the click feeling on the G. my casing is fine.
But you need also to consider that logitech had years to choose a good manufacturer in China.
Fanatec surly have little flaws, but for me i knew that before making the purchase. And for me it's moning on high level (like: can see the platin behind the buttons, stiching not centered 100%)

I guess it comes a lot down to taste.

lool chapman
 
I agree that the housing of GT3 isn't on par with Logitech G25/27 (stronger plastic), but for me that's the only advantage Logitech has over Fanatec. And to be honest, the housing is good enough, it just doesn't give you that feeling of indestructibility that Logitechs do. If we judge the wheels by the feeling and sense of immersion, for me Fanatec is the clear winner. It sure is heavier, but what do you expect from a real car?
On the other side GT3's thick wheel rim and alcantra leather put it ergonomically in to another class - I always had problems holding my G25. My thumbs would do 90% of the holding and I really don't like that - I even got blisters once :)
BUT - Logitechs too are great, don't get me wrong :) I still haven't sold my G25, even though I don't use it at all, it's just hard to give it away :)
More in a video review that I will probably post this weekend.
 
Better now - for the record I have the G27 & the Fanatec 911 Turbo S wheel with Clubsport Pedals, CS Paddles & 6-speed H-Gate shifter.
The Fanatec wheel has a better overall feel and when playing with FM3 & GT5P the wheel has more feedback in relation to the vehicle you are driving in the game. FFB is amazing - especially when hammering the brakes (as the wheel & pedals shimmy with FFB) Funny - the Fanatec wheel transfers the loss of traction way better than the G27. The Porsche sized steering wheel is also great in terms of size and comfort. Don't get my wrong - both are high grade racing wheels but the G27 just feels a little cheap when compared to the 911 Turbo S.

Downside to the Fanatec is the 6 speed h-gate shifter and the mounting option. Two bars hold the shifter - these bars are kinda flimsy - as well the plug for the shifter is located on the bottom and is prone to being knocked out during hard driving or breaking off due to clumsy drivers (it took me about 30 minutes to break the 1st cord!) There is a new CSP Shifter coming in 2011 and it is supposed to address these issues - hopefully it will be similar to the G27 shifter set in terms of stability. The gear changes at first annoyed me but over the past few weeks - I have grown to appreciate the CLACKING noise of the gear shift - it has a little more tension behind it rather than the melted butter feel of the G27. (Reminds me of my old Focus hatchback)

The Clubsport Pedals are amazing - this is where the Fanatec truely shines - miles ahead of the metal/plastic G27 pedals. They are worth their weight in gold! Aircraft metals make it very heavy, durable, and resistant to have a foot mashed on it constantly. The gas & clutch move very well but the brake has some tension behind it and can be adjusted to suit your driving style. It takes a while to get used to (as the G27 had really no tension behind it) but adds to the realism of the setup.

I opted for the addon Clubsport paddle shifters - the unit came equipped with small nub shifters which I found very difficult to use while driving. The addon shifter paddles mount directly onto the shifter buttons and resemble the paddles from the G27. Although I don't use them as much as I should - as I am still trying to become proficient with the clutch/h-gate (Hard to pickup from the MS Wheel).

I am not bashing the G27 here - just highlighting what I have found to be both wheels strong points.

Wheel Size - Fanatec
FFB - Fanatec
Functions/Customize on the fly - Fanatec
Pedals - Fanatec (CSP)
Shifter Paddles - Draw - although the G27 does offer a clicking noise where the Fanatec does not.
H-Gate Shifter - Mounting & Design goes to the G27 - function goes to the Fanatec.
Price - G27 for me was cheaper but for what I got with the Fanatec - you get what you pay for - my Fanatec setup was around $600 complete - all addons & taxes & shipping - but it was worth every Canadian dollar - it just takes video game sim racing to a new level.
Flexibility - Fanatec - the Turbo S can work on 3 seperate platforms - the G27 only 2. I enjoy the ability to switch from 360 to PS3 within seconds. If Logitech made a 360 adapter - it would be golden (only reason I am still holding on to the petarded MS Wheel)
Buttons - Fanatec - the Turbo S wheel does a great job of labeling what the buttons do what unlike the G27 where all the buttons are unlabeled and I continually will fumble to find the right button while racing.

Again, my .02 on my experiences with both wheels - I have been happy with both but I find the Fanatec wheel to raise the bar in terms of sim racing.

Sober Chapman
 
Chapman :

try the shifter mount for 25€. Then you can hardmount it and it is sturdy and you can throw in the gears (even the Reverse)
 
I have the DFGT, G27 and the Fanatec 911 turbo S. Out of all I prefer the Fanatec. You can map the buttons, strong ffb, adjust settings on the fly and most of all, doesn't rattle when you rally race! Stable, smooth and totally recommended!
 
Diatribe777
I have the DFGT, G27 and the Fanatec 911 turbo S. Out of all I prefer the Fanatec. You can map the buttons, strong ffb, adjust settings on the fly and most of all, doesn't rattle when you rally race! Stable, smooth and totally recommended!
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Do you mean in GT5?
 
I have no idea what the Fanatec reliability is, but the G27 is pretty poorly built, the flimsy nature of the optical wheel sensor is pathetic for that much money, unless you're the smoothest driver in the world and don't like rallying, drifting or anything that involves swift movements of the wheel. I'd avoid the G27.

Logitech have put sod all quality control measures in place for the G27 and if you look around haven't actually fixed the issue since. I've seen report of people on their 4th or 5th replacement G27.
 
Get the Fanatec Carrera wheel. Its less than 200Euro and is the best budget wheel out there. (I own one and love it)
 
This is to at least partially confirm Sureboss's statement about having heard reports of people on their 4th or 5th G27 wheel. Our current wheel, #5 we think, starting to lose count, is about to be returned to Logitech for replacement. It's lasted about 6 months before the optical sensor problem surfaced yet again. So, we're heading towards wheel #5 or #6. :grumpy:
 

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