Make the car wash useful???

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True, but it just depends on how much memory it would take up on the memory card. 2D dirt decals/effects shouldn't take up too much, I wouldn't thinking. Though, having them dynamically added during a race could cause use up some CPU power, but I don't think it would be impossible.
 
Coling Mcrae 04 has awesome mud and dirt textures applied to great effect on different parts of the car, on the wheels, on the windshield (nessessitating windshield wipers) and in varying degrees of coverage. I don't get why a feature such as that couldnt be implemented in GT. Don't start rambling about memory capacity, seems like a very flimsy excuse to me.
 
I hear CMR04 has a really cool damage model too. We covered the lack of that as well.

I doubt it's a memory issue with storing the cars on a memory card, you'd just need an indicative number that corresponded to a certain level of dirtyness, a certain number of layers of dirt by your example Travis.

Rendering dirt in real time, in a way that doesn't look cheesy and predictable, is something else. To actually do it with any degree of realism would take a lot of processing power, so I'm guessing that just like damage, KY has chosen all or nothing and wound up with nothing. Personally, I'd rather nothing than a half assed attempt.
 
I am still going to buy the argument that a dirty car needs a car wash in GT4, so I agree with the Croatian Amar. I don't know how dirty cars may get, but I remember going to Hot Import Nights almost a year ago in Houston, and I seen a stock-looking, black Impreza/WRX that's been dirtied up. I think the owner was nuts enough to clear coat it or something, because it looked like the dirt stayed on there rather than seeing an Exxon or Mobil car wash around Reliant Center. But, I don't know. Maybe, then maybe not. Dirty cars. The GT series DOES have one thing right, however. Racing for a while, you're not going to have a shiny car all the way. I mean, look at the Le Mans endurance coming up next week, the Coca-Cola 600 last weekend... cars will get dirty. And I tend to think even a small speck of dirt can ruin a car's aerodynamics. And another thing, I don't like keeping my cars dirty. Want to make the car wash useful? Implement it during championship races (same goes for oil changes).
 
I say why wash when you can repaint!
In Sydney at the moment due to low water levels in the dams we have to use buckets to wash are cars. It is illegal to use a hose. The fine is $ 220. Makes the 50 credits for the GT3 car wash look cheap.
 
If I'm not mistaken, I think some copies of GT2 has a car wash for a whopping 5,000 Cr! Imagine that...
 
And here I was grumbling about the 250cr oil change. :)

I'd love to be able to see the effects of dirt and crud buildup on the car. Clean race cars are nice and all, but there's something rough 'n tough looking about a car with bits of rubber, brake dust, etc all over it.
 
That would be the Japanese version, everything was 100x, including starting and prize money however. It was closer to Yen that way I believe.

Water restrictions suck ass, why doesn't it rain.
 
They were doing testing on wet tracks in the videos on Prologue... Maybe that means that wet tracks will be in the game?!

C.
 
Maybe they were gathering drift physics data :p

There's been no mention of variable weather, even between tracks like Special Stage Route 5 in GT3, but perhaps that's another neat surprise they have in store for us.
 
They did have the wet courses in GT3... so maybe there'll be a few more implemented into 4, and not just for rally cars... wouldn't be that hard, just have a "wet" version of the standard track... be cool though if it randomly appeared in series (eg, the series outline just says SSR5) then when you go to race it, sometimes it's dry, sometimes it's the wet variant). Doubt we'd see real time variable weather, but this could start us down that path.
 
mmmmm.... variable weather. Then they would have to make it 100% accurate and implement a rain physics system in which nary a drop falls unrealistically, in which the visual representation of individual raindrops must have life-like reflections, require mass and density calculations, and then this would overtax the ps2's memory and/or space on the game disk, blah blah blah... Hehe, as awesome as GT is, it's not the perfection KY touts it to be, it's simply the best of the field. You'd think people would be used to hyperbole by now.
 
Originally posted by Eagle
I hear CMR04 has a really cool damage model too. We covered the lack of that as well.

I doubt it's a memory issue with storing the cars on a memory card, you'd just need an indicative number that corresponded to a certain level of dirtyness, a certain number of layers of dirt by your example Travis.

Rendering dirt in real time, in a way that doesn't look cheesy and predictable, is something else. To actually do it with any degree of realism would take a lot of processing power, so I'm guessing that just like damage, KY has chosen all or nothing and wound up with nothing. Personally, I'd rather nothing than a half assed attempt.
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Yeah, damage models or the lack thereof...don't get me started. :D

Good point with making it look well. I had a feeling PD would want to make it look perfect or not do it at all. Having the decals/textures appear to simulate location specific dirt depending on which tires are spinning, directions, etc. would all have to be taken into consideration. Maybe GT5?
 
when you go to a rally your car should get dirty and then you go wash it. thats what they should of done in gt1 gt2 gt3 and they have still not thought of to put it in the game jet
 
If you have a really dirty car I think the spectators should boo you and throw eggs and tomatoes at you.
well not realy but I think something should happen if you have a particulary dirty car.
 
If you have a really dirty car I think the spectators should boo you and throw eggs and tomatoes at you.
well not realy but I think something should happen if you have a particulary dirty car.
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Where would they get these eggs and tomatoes from? How about hand grenades?
 
Originally posted by ExigeExcel
If you have a really dirty car I think the spectators should boo you and throw eggs and tomatoes at you.
well not realy but I think something should happen if you have a particulary dirty car.
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That's one of the stupidest things i've heard in a while.

Good work 👍
 
Originally posted by code_kev
Where would they get these eggs and tomatoes from? How about hand grenades?
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I'm more intrigued by where they're getting the hand grenades from...

chrispp: It's naive to think PD haven't thought to include such things, they just don't have the technology available to do it to a level they feel is good enough. It will happen.
 

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