Makeshift Shuffle - No Tuning RacesOpen

watermelon punch · Mar 23, 2015

Spec Variety Cup
Saturday 21 March 2015

Fiat 500F '68 @ Côte d'Azur

watermelon punch · Mar 23, 2015

Spec Variety Cup
Saturday 21 March 2015

VW Sambabus Typ2 (T1) '62 @ Willow Springs: Streets of Willow

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watermelon punch · Mar 23, 2015

RESULTS
Shuffle Mixer -- Series 20 -- Event 1
Sunday 22 March 2015

tacom08* / tacom08 (44 pts) (0/5)
snowgt / GTP_SnowCrash (40 pts) (2/1)
amarynceos / GTP_amarynceos (37 pts) (0/3)
LongbowX / LongbowX (34 pts) (2/0)
tarnheld / tarnheld (29 pts) (1/1)
watermelon punch / wat3rm370n (27 pts) (0/1)
daddyo845 / daddy-o845 (21 pts) (0/1)
Chiochan / ChuthuluGoat (19 pts) (1/0)
baja_j / baja_j (18 pts)

Race #1: 3 laps @ Monza 80 // Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint GTA 1600 '65 (heavy damage 1 pit)

Race #2: 5 laps @ Matterhorn Short Track // Low Power

Race #3: 3 laps @ Tokyo R246 Reverse // Hot Hatches

Race #4: 4 laps @ Suzuka East Course // Retro

Race #5: 3 laps @ Daytona Road Course // Performance Coupes

Race #6: 3 laps @ Spa-Francorchamps // Performance Coupes

Longbowx (DNF due to DC)

watermelon punch · Mar 23, 2015

Spec Variety Cup
Saturday 21 March 2015

Mitsubishi i-MiEV '09 @ Grand Valley East Reverse

Chiochan · Mar 23, 2015

Who would have thought you could over cook it that much in an electric compact hamster. :lol:

watermelon punch · Mar 24, 2015

There is now a poll for members to choose the cars that you'd like to see on a "1 make list"
It's located at the top of the time trials thread:
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/thre...esting-for-club-car-lists-all-welcome.295260/

This is for cars that don't fit in shuffle lists, that we can have in a list to use in spec races (tuning prohibited) - so everyone will have them ready.

In the poll you'll see about 30 or so cars.
You can choose up to 10 cars to vote for.

watermelon punch · Mar 24, 2015

TODAY

Tuesday 24 March 2015
3:00pm US EDT / 12:00 noon US PDT / 7:00pm GMT / 8:00pm CET / 19:00 UTC
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Shuffle Mixer -- Series 19 -- Event 2
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Cars Needed: Historic, Luxury, Performance Coupes, & Citroen C4
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Race #1: 1 laps @ Sarthe 2009 no chicanes // Citroen C4 Coupe 2.0VTS '05
Race #2: 3 laps @ Tokyo R246 // Historic
Race #3: 3 laps @ Laguna Seca // Historic
Race #4: 3 laps @ Fuji GT // Luxury
Race #5: 3 laps @ Silverstone GP // Performance Coupes
Race #6: 4 laps @ Eiger Nordwand Short Track Reverse // Performance Coupes
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I'm sorry, I don't have a drum roll introduction, so I suggest we all go listen to this one again.

NOTE:
The spreadsheet ("Car Info" tab) is updated for Historic List.
And the Historic list is also ready in the OP (behind the "car lists" button).

watermelon punch · Mar 24, 2015

Good races today!

Sorry I was grumpy in the lobby 👎 after the Sarthe race :dopey:

dare I say... what I expected to be a rather boring 1-make race in the C4. :boggled:

I guess there are no boring races at Le Mans. :lol:

Looking forward to visual art in regards to the BOXES. :lol:

I thought for SURE someone would've guessed why I scheduled the PREMIUM Performance Coupes there. :sly:

Or did y'all think I'd just lost my mind completely by now? :lol:

tarnheld · Mar 25, 2015

watermelon punch
I thought for SURE someone would've guessed why I scheduled the PREMIUM Performance Coupes there.
Or did y'all think I'd just lost my mind completely by now?

I wonder what appears in the tunnel if we race the Miura there... :nervous:

watermelon punch · Mar 25, 2015

More Eiger BOXES

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Patrick8308 · Mar 25, 2015

What a fun to discover another hilarious Boxes Glitch.

I was lucky following @snowgt in his red Cadillac directly so I had the pleasure to observe him flying through the air live in the race. What a joy!

Seem's he wanted to manifest his status as an ALIEN. :lol:

snowgt · Mar 25, 2015

The funny thing is, that from my perspective it was nothing as spectacular. It was like what happens when you normally hit a box. No lift off or anything. Same in my replay.

Chiochan · Mar 25, 2015

So which car caused it(boxes) :odd:

this time?

tarnheld · Mar 25, 2015

It's the *drum-roll*

Aston Martin V12 Vantage '10 !

... and sadly only one car pops out the Boxes, even if all cars are the same, as you see in @watermelon punch's pics. Would be so cool to have the finish line crammed with Boxes... :cool:

Now what about a race with the 507 and the V12 Vantage? :mischievous:

Chiochan · Mar 25, 2015

I think we need to test both on track at the same time.

amarynceos · Mar 25, 2015

Great to see the boxes again.

I'm afraid I won't have time for racing until Sunday. Have fun on the tracks!

watermelon punch · Mar 25, 2015

TODAY:

Who's in for trying the new format - shuffle surprise?

Wednesday 25 March 2015
3:00pm US EDT / 12:00 noon US PDT / 7:00pm GMT / 8:00pm CET / 19:00 UTC
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Shuffle Surprise
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5 Race Cup tour
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Race #1: Track chosen by driver present at start time with highest Parity funkiness rating, host then picks the 1-make car from one of the car lists. Grid order determined by Reverse Parity Grid Line-up
Race #2: Track chosen by winner of Race #1, Car List then chosen by last place of Race #1, RGO
Race #3: Track chosen by winner of Race #2, Car List then chosen by last place of Race #2, RGO
Race #4: Track chosen by winner of Race #3, Car List then chosen by last place of Race #3, RGO
Race #5: Track chosen by winner of Race #4, Car List then chosen by last place of Race #4, RGO
In the event that 1st place or last place from the previous race leaves the lobby after that race, the choice reverts to the next in line. Example: 1st place from previous race leaves, choice is given to 2nd place driver in previous race. Last place leaves, choice is given to next to last place.
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Patrick8308 · Mar 25, 2015

I'm in:tup:

Goetz · Mar 25, 2015

ME TOO

Chiochan · Mar 25, 2015

Will miss today's races.

tarnheld · Mar 25, 2015

Great races today, the new Shuffle Surprise format is really :cool:

!

John Wells · Mar 25, 2015

Enjoyed the new format

watermelon punch · Mar 25, 2015

Good times today! :cheers:

I think the Shuffle Surprise format could lead to many surprises :sly:

... very interesting racing with perhaps some strategic choices... but in a very limited way. Will be interesting to see how it varies with more racers than today's lowish turnout.
For example, with our usual 7-9 racers.

Having said that... The race at Streets of Willow in the Traffic cars... seemed to have VERY heavy traffic!! :lol:

It was hard to believe there were just 5 cars in that race, as it was very crowded the whole time. And also, that track seems to make slower cars seem a lot more wild. :eek:

At any rate, I've updated the Shuffle Surprise instructions in the OP to reflect some details that hadn't been specifically specified. :boggled:

I guess I hadn't thought of everything, and also I suppose presumed some things to be assumed.
But now everything is noted, so we can all uniformly have expectations. 👍

Example: track should be chosen BEFORE the car list is decided/mentioned.
It benefits the person choosing the car list to hold their preference ... even if they'll choose this car list no matter what track gets chosen.
For instance... When I chose the Retro list... I probably would've chosen that car list no matter what track was chosen. However I held my response until the track was chosen. And maybe if someone chosen GT Arena A I would decide to choose Luxury list instead.

(Just kidding.)

If anyone's interested... I've had this shuffle surprise idea since GT5 perhaps as far back as 2012 or before. :lol:

I remember discussing it when there were "club forums" on GTPlanet. And I recall the specific conversation with @IMZIZ (who I haven't seen on track in a dog's age)... and I remembered some key points of strategies that may develop, that he mentioned to be aware of in a scheme like this. :sly:

So that's why the rules have to be quite specific, and should be followed. To make sure things stay interesting. :sly:

👍

For example, in GT5 shuffle rooms... hosts would often try to come up with a scheme to pick PP-base & track or 1-make car, etc... And too often I would see a winner pick a PP-base first... then they'd put up the track vote... and :scared:

the combination would be something strange :odd:

And the winner from the previous race and 3 other people would rage quit. :lol:

So you have to be real careful with any scheme where multiple people are scheming to choose the combinations. :nervous:

So that's why the very specific rules.

Example: 15 variable drivers in a Mini Cooper 1-make at Fuji, or 15 lambos & aston martins on Cote D'Azur never turned out so hot. :lol:

Chiochan
I think we need to test both on track at the same time.

That's an interesting idea.

I am now more than ever convinced that this "glitch" is not an error at all, but an "easter egg" ... either sanctioned, or sneaked in, I don't know. But I think it must be deliberate! :boggled:

Seems almost unimaginable that this could be a simple error. :odd:

Of course I have been arguing about this with my spouse, who thinks I'm being awfully silly to think there is some pattern or puzzle to figure out. :rolleyes:

But I just start wondering if there is some link between the 2 cars we've found that cause this:
BMW 507 '57
Aston Martin V12 Vantage '10

The one thing they definitely have in common is that they are both PREMIUM cars.
I had wondered if other premium cars would be potential candidates... Because the 507 was the ONLY premium car in the old (pre-revamp) vintage list.
That's why I scheduled to race the Performance Coupes list at Eiger Reverse -- because all the Perf Coupes are premium... thereby I thought increasing our chances of finding another box-triggering car.
And I was right! 💡

We found one.
Of course it was just that one. So NOT all premiums.

So... Is there anything else these cars have in common?
Think about it and humour me!

WhiterunGuard · Mar 26, 2015

You should have someone go into the game data and find out what bits of code those two cars have in common and then find a car that only has ONE of those bits in common. Then you could proceed to eliminate the incorrect bits until you are left with that one piece of code that triggers the boxes allowing you could find every car with that piece of code and, in theory, find all of the box-trigger cars.

watermelon punch · Mar 26, 2015

That would be The Killjoy Method.

Much more interesting if one could find out if there is actually some pattern.

(And I don't page to the back of the magazine & turn it upside down either. :lol:

)

WhiterunGuard · Mar 26, 2015

watermelon punch
The Killjoy Method

It would also be the only way to know for sure....or we could set up an event in which we gather as many people as possible, give them each a different car selection and see which ones do it until we have covered every single car.

tarnheld · Mar 26, 2015

It's easy as ABC: Aston Martin, BMW, C... so i guess the next box-throwing car will be ... the Chaparral 2X!

And here is exclusive footage of the Caterpillar glitch with the Miura at the upcoming Eiger Nordwand Extended track! :eek:

watermelon punch · Mar 26, 2015

tarnheld
It's easy as ABC: Aston Martin, BMW, C... so i guess the next box-throwing car will be ... the Chaparral 2X!

And here is exclusive footage of the Caterpillar glitch with the Miura at the upcoming Eiger Nordwand Extended track!