manual shiftin

[BudNC6721]

HI, im new here and i just go gt3 a lil bit ago, but i was tryin manual shifting and i suck at it, i was just wonderin if there were any tips that u guys could give me

 

[Duke]

Well, you do get more control if you shift manually, once you have practice at it.

Welcome to GTP, Bud! There are a lot of knowledgeable and fun people here.

Typically, on acceleration, I shift at redline, just as the little red "upshift" dot starts to blink. If that is happening, but I'm near the end of a straight and will be slowing down in a second, I don't bother, and just let the car over-rev.

When slowing for curves, I usually downshift as I'm braking and turning in. This helps slow you down, and puts you in the right gear for accelerating out. Sometimes, in the middle of long sweepers, you may need to shift down as the car slows a little.

To the right of the gear indicator is a smaller number, which tells you the recommended gear for the next corner.

Hope this helps!

 

[sn00pie]

Welcome to GTPlanet BudNC6721!

Manual shifting, hmm... let's see.

Well, I suppose you're having problems with the downshifts rather than the upshifts right? What you have to do is feel your engine a bit and associate braking with downshifting, so when you come storming up to a corner, let's say #1 at Grand Valley brake hard while shifting down to 2nd then apex the corner and punch the gas and don't forget to go into 3rd!

Now in some cars it's better to shift 500rpm past the redline while some cars have lousy powerbands and they require pre-redline shifts, if the speed keeps increasing at it's usual rate when the redline is past it's safe to just let the revs build and shift late and if the car suddenly decreases the normal speed build up rate you should shift at the redline.

 

[sn00pie]

Damn we're quick!

 

[i have a diablo]

does any one here have an escudo

 

[BudNC6721]

thanx for the information guys

 

[sn00pie]

Originally posted by i have a diablo
does any one here have an escudo

I sold it because it sucks.

 

[sn00pie]

Originally posted by BudNC6721
thanx for the information guys

You're welcome.

 

[Rumple Foreskin]

i have 2 escudo's... but i do not use either one

 

[alex_gt]

Welcome to GT Planet Bud

I advise you to go on Free Run on one of your favourite tracks :curvyrd: to practice Manual Shifting.
Take your time :clock: and do as many laps as you want to get used to it, once you do you'll never go back to auto

Good Luck :star:

About the :suzuki: Escudu, it's the beast for Wheelies :burnout:
Anyone done em?

 

[chris00764]

I would just recomend automatic unless you are doing the license tests.

 

[SaleenASL]

yah, the escudo sucks, unless u are on test track or super speedway.

 

[MazKid]

Shifting up:
Wait untill you get to the limiter(to find where the limiter is just rev the car up)and shift right before you hit it. This helps on those cars with really high powerbands(like all of the Hondas lol).
OR
Wait untill you get to the red line. This usually works fine for most cars.
OR
Find the end of the powerband. This can be done by looking at the max power(both horsepower and torque)and seeing at what RPM are they at. Also with some of the turbo cars(this is especially for the SLK), you will notice at a certain RPM, the boost needle will drop off, and you won't accelerate as fast as you did when you were at full boost. So in that case, you shift when it starts dropping off. With V8, V10(Vipers), and V12 cars, most of them loose power before the redline, so again you will just need to look at where the power is, and shift accordingly.

Shifting down:
Make sure that you have enough RPMs left to downshift. Other wise, you end up over revving and slowing down when you were trying to go faster. For braking, it really doesn't matter...I usually kick my car into reverse(just tap reverse while slowing, be off the gas)and that puts it into neutral, and then when you need to accelerate, just hit the gas and you will be in the right gear. You can also use your engine to slow down by shifting into a lower gear, but over revving does not help, you need to be in gear.

Hope that helps too

 

[BudNC6721]

thanx again for all the info

 

[CloneHead]

Or alternatively, if you still find the manual hard to work with, use the automatic.
By pressing the gearshifter button, you can prevent the auto gear from shifting until you want it to. That way you can get most out of the auto gears.

 

[alex_gt]

Yea Clonehead, it's a good medium between Manual and Auto as you have some Control :spin:... I did that and then moved on to Manual, any one else used to do that?

 

[raylmg]

i did that too

 

[MazKid]

I tryied the auto-manuel once...I have GT1(my first PSX game that I bought back in '98)GT2(got that the day it came out)and ofcourse GT3, and I never used auto on them at all...I'm good with hand-eye cordination and concentration, so manuel fits me.

 

[Jordan]

Welcome to GTPlanet, Bud! These are excellent tips from everyone (I can use them myself)! I just switched to manual from automatic recently, and it really demands a lot more patience and concentration on your part - which I feel makes the game much more fun and realistic.

 

[advanR]

sometimes you have to judge your shifting by the landscape. for example through the corkscrew at laguna i usually stay one gear higher than recommended because while going down hill you rev faster than normal and using the lower gear just finds wheelspin or loss in time by shifting so quickly anyways.

another advantage of shifting very late, even if the power suddenly drops off is that when you shift the revs may drop slightly higher than if you shifted earlier and will then accel through the next gear faster.

usually when going uphill i shift as late as possible. to think of it, i dont know why. it just feels like i lose less umph while climbing the hill.

also, is it just me or does it feel like the powerbands in the game arent right. overall i feel EVERY car is fastest when you shift just before the needle bounces. this shouldnt be that way with most cars. also i kind of miss the dyno graphs they had in gt2. they really help with choosing how to drive. and showed the effect of upgrades besides just the peak output number. gt3 seems less realistic in this sense

 

[TypeR]

When approaching a turn,

Slow in ->> deccelerate and downshift (apply brakes if necessary)

Turn, touch the apex,

fast out ->> apply throttle, upshift if necessary

My best advice is to practice, practice, PRACTICE!!!

I was a little intimidated to use manual transmission when I started GT3 (since this is the FIRST GT I've ever played)....But it turns out it is indeed easy but takes some practice to get used to.

 

[Angel O'Death]

Originally posted by advanR

usually when going uphill i shift as late as possible. to think of it, i dont know why. it just feels like i lose less umph while climbing the hill.

That's because of torque.

Since everyone has covered all the major sections, i will just touch the simple stuff

Use L2 and R2 as the shift buttons. They are big, easy to find and press very easily.

Set upshift to L2 and downshift to R2. I find that if you have the downshift set to L2 it gives problems with stability. Because when you downshift you press the button pretty rapidly (especially if your a late braker) it can cause you to fumble your thumb on the stick/controlpad and you might make a mistake. Since you upshift much slower, it makes less of a distraction for the hand the controls your turns. For this same reason i also set look reverse to R1 since it's a key i use frequently. Hope this helps, and have fun!

 

[Kelly]

I just recently started using manual and once you get the hang of it there's no going back . Just practice

 

[Sage]

Bud- Most of all of the advice you could ever want it here, but first and foremost, just practice with it; we could give you all the advice in the world, but no matter what, it will take you time to learn, as it is hard at first (even though you're not using a clutch pedal). All of the advice about maybe not shifting because you're close to a corner, upshifting when exiting, etc., will be stuff that you'll pick up quite quickly after you've mastered shifting. It's all very easy, and makes GT3 a much better game. In fact, I've found that it's much harder for me to drive with an auto, because I feel a natural urge to shift, since I quite often don't like the gears that it chooses... "slushboxes", they call 'em.

 

[misnblu]

I guess the thing thats not been mentioned is listening to the sound of the engine when you up and down shift.
As you progressively get better at manual shifting, you concentrate less on the tach, boost and speed and begin listening to the engine of each particular car. This is especially useful when downshifting.
If you ever listen to f1 (real world) shifting, its a series of bang, bang, bang on the downshifts. The really good cars you can late brake and downshift really fast and be ready for the turn and listening to the engine, you begin to know what gear your in without even thinking about it.
I recently went manual (8 months ago) and drove auto for a year and a half or more.
It becomes second nature once you start getting good and like all say, practice, dont be nervous if you miss a shift and keep at it.
Heck, I went back to playing the gt2 game (continuing my second stab at completing the game) and notice my times much improved from the manual shifting. Comparing times from the old auto shift, times have improved nicely.
Good luck with it and most of all, have fun.
Misnblu

 

[Gil]

I went auto from manual due to being too durn lazy to do all that shifting during an enduro in GT2.
Just haven't gone back. I'm learning good braking habits. Which is much harder than shifting. Although I imagine I could get deeper in the turns befor braking if the engine were helping me out.
I might even catch up to Lotus.....naaah!