Manual shifting

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I've been trying to start manual shifting but can't seem to get the hang of it, trying to keep an eye on the road and looking at the revs, has anyone got any tips as I know manual shifting is quicker round the track
 
Use your ears instead of looking at the tach. That is all I can suggest.
 
Don't look at the revs. Listen to the note where you have to change up and memorize it and do the same for downshifts.
 
Use your ears instead of looking at the tach. That is all I can suggest.

It changes with each car, but if you have a favorite that you drive a lot, shifting by sound can be quite accurate. Some cars have dash/wheel indicators that make it easier to see when to shift (LFA, 908, etc). If you switch cars a lot it can be difficult to relearn when to shift. I think I must be able to notice the flashing red light when I reach redline without looking away from the track since I do switch cars frequently and don't seem to over-rev or short shift much after the first lap.

As with everything in GT5 life, practice makes perfect.
 
peterjford
It changes with each car, but if you have a favorite that you drive a lot, shifting by sound can be quite accurate. Some cars have dash/wheel indicators that make it easier to see when to shift (LFA, 908, etc). If you switch cars a lot it can be difficult to relearn when to shift. I think I must be able to notice the flashing red light when I reach redline without looking away from the track since I do switch cars frequently and don't seem to over-rev or short shift much after the first lap.

As with everything in GT5 life, practice makes perfect.

Ty will give it a go! Yes that's why I love this game all the practice, so how much quicker is manual shifting
 
To be honest, I have never tried auto tranny. So I don't know. In real life racing it is the only way to go. But i would guess it (manual) must be better.
 
I use a wheel and paddles (most of the time). I also have a great angle to the TV screen.

It's easy to shift manually with my set up. But, it still takes practice. My advice is to just make the switch and stick with it. You'll get faster with a little time.
 
I've been using a manual transmission and boy, it shaves a few seconds off laps! One advantage that the manual transmision has over the auto is that, you can down shift on turns or up shift in a turn to keep your car's torque. So yeah, its definetly a good idea to learn how to use manual shift.
 
I have noticed from my own driving that i often shift by memory. "This corner in 3:rd the long one next on 4:th..." kind of thing or rather "shift once down, shift once up, shift twice down". Ofcourse i don't do that consiously after i have learned the car and the track. For upshift points i use combination of my ears and the redline indicator light (I know redline isn't always the optimal shifting point).
 
That's kind of like the way I do it, Sohvakettu. Well, a mixture of that and looking at the REV gauge when I can. I never use the HUD. I have that dooky thing off. It's best to learn without the HUD. When I switched to manual, I still had it off. Hearing it out is a great way to learn.
 
If it's the first time in a car with a random setup, just listen and shift when the red light blinks. It'll only take a few laps before you know what the high revs sound like. After that you just dial in the course and time your shifting based upon the layout of the course. Different cars behave better in different RPM ranges so sometimes you can even use the different gears for traction control if your throttle control isn't up to par.

I use a controller, so sometimes long turns at high speeds have to be taken in a higher gear in order to give my button a lower torque range so I don't lose traction. I can't imagine keeping the car at the limits of it's traction in automatic.
 
As many others have said, you need to start listening to when the engine is revving too high. I suggest you practice driving a manual with a Lexus LFA where you can get a good idea of a sound when the engine is revving too high. It's a good choice mainly because you can get a clear view of the tach (which changes colour, too.)
 
Use your ears instead of looking at the tach. That is all I can suggest.

I guess I'm just going to also reaffirm this. Each car will be different, but I wouldn't expect it to take very long before most players can get a feel for when to shift based on the sound of the engine. Somehow this is completely lost on my wife, however. She insists it all sounds the same to her.
 
I also look at my revs to much...
As mentioned above, listening to the engine and shift at the right moment is ideal.
Takes some practice though...
I still haven't got it.
 
I need to learn coz I do a lot of online racing and all the front runners use manual
 
Lets put it this way (IMO):
Manual shift + transm. adjust > manual shift >= autoshift + transm. adjust > auto transmission.
 
f1webberfan
Lets put it this way (IMO):
Manual shift + transm. adjust > manual shift >= autoshift + transm. adjust > auto transmission.

?????? What does this mean
 
Use your ears instead of looking at the tach. That is all I can suggest.

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First, just drive the car to the rev limit in each gear (when the red light starts to flash on the rev counter) and listen to the engine note at that point. Do this a few times and then try shifting at the same point without looking at the rev counter.
 
Vagabond
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First, just drive the car to the rev limit in each gear (when the red light starts to flash on the rev counter) and listen to the engine note at that point. Do this a few times and then try shifting at the same point without looking at the rev counter.

Yeah I know that just didn't understand what f1 webber was on about
 
Yeah I know that just didn't understand what f1 webber was on about

Its not very clear but he means:

Manual shifting plus adjusting gear ratios is better than just manual shifting which is better than or equivalent to auto shifting and adjusting gears which is better than just auto shifting. :)
 
Vagabond
Its not very clear but he means:

Manual shifting plus adjusting gear ratios is better than just manual shifting which is better than or equivalent to auto shifting and adjusting gears which is better than just auto shifting. :)

That sounds understandable now ty
 
dont be afraid to short shift (more so with high power cars often its a must), like mentioned many time listen to the revs, and use your peripheral vision.

thats all the advice i can give you......happy driving!
 
yep i use my ears, just like i do in my real life car. As mentioned before its not always optimum to wait til redline either. Take the 440 cuda for exsample, look at is power curve in the tunning screen. If you wait till redline youre costing youre self a ton of power. Also when useing the power limmiter it can be helpfull to shift early. The torque will be higher in the lower revs and the HP will be the same because of the wonky way they did it.

Its funny they did it that way as HP dosnt mean much, HP is just a result of a calculation. torque X RPM / 5252 = HP
 
As far as downshifting goes, you have to determine the power band of your car. A wide powerband (a car with a big engine, supercharger or smaller turbo) means you can downshift less and the effect won't be so bad, but with narrower powerbands (small engines with big turbos, high revving NA's (i.e. Honda VTECs)) you need to be careful that when you downshift you don't drop the engine in 'a hole', as they say, meaning that it falls off the powerband and hasn't quite got the acceleration it would. It doesn't matter so much if you're going downhill, but it sucks if you're going uphill. Get a Samba Bus, put a stage 3 turbo on it and then try to pull away from a standstill, that's the best demonstration of a powerband I can think of.
 
O also if youre having problems with a car oversteering on a piticular corner when youre off the gas you can keep it in a higher gear and it will help, or viseversa downshift a bit early and it should help it turn more. Just be carefull not to bounce it off the rev limit :)
 
I changed from auto to manual a couple of months ago - takes a fair bit of getting used to - I use a mixture of ears & eyes to work out when to shift - in my opinion you have so much more control using manual & when you get it right you will go faster...but when you get it wrong...!!!you'll know all about it! anyway i started a race in auto by mistake the other day & it was so boring - didn't enjoy it at all.
 
So what do you do if you are like me and deaf, so you cannot hear the engine revs so well? just looking at the tach just makes me distracted and ends up me plowing into the barriers.
 
My tip is just to go in at the deep end.

787B with manual first time is brilliant on La Sarthe especially the Stealth Model.

You'll be addicted.
 
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