Marussia MR-01 launch

Decent nose at least. Will still be very slow in all likelihood. They aren't getting KERS this year are they?
 
Sach
They aren't getting KERS this year are they?
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They aren't.. In one qualifying lap the car might be around 3 to 5 tenths slower without KERS and they may have nothing to attack/defend their position when racing. Unless, their aerodynamic is good enough to make it faster without even the use of KERS.
 
Marussia have said that the decisions not to use KERS was a strategic one. They felt that whatever gains the system offered, the added 30kg of fixed weight and the complexities of the system meant that using KERS was not worth it. They felt that they could get more of an advantage, and sooner, but concentrating on the development of their aerodynamics.
 
Would've been nice if they added some blue to the livery, to help move it away from looking like the car from the Virgin era and into the Marussia era.
I like how they put the numbers on the sidepods though.
 
The strategic move is a gamble this one. The added 30kg of complexities can help them in defending and gaining positions. From my logic, if they have a good aerodynamics they may have a good one lap which means they may qualify higher but then comes the race, they may get swallowed by cars with KERS unless they can somehow pull out a Sebby V style.
 
InvincibleM5
The added 30kg of complexities can help them in defending and gaining positions.
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But they're not expecting to fight anyone directly. What's the point of having KERS to attack and defend if they aren't going to do it? Their objectives for this year are to leapfrog HRT in the WCC standings (which they fully expect to do in the opening rounds - HRT are anticipating it, too) and to close the gap to Caterham so that they are in a stronger position for 2013. They actually have a three-year plan so that they can be fighting for points at the first Russian Grand Prix in 2014.
 
prisonermonkeys
But they're not expecting to fight anyone directly. What's the point of having KERS to attack and defend if they aren't going to do it? Their objectives for this year are to leapfrog HRT in the WCC standings...
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No, I'm not saying that they're going to fight with everyone on the grid but if they have decided to be ahead of the HRT, they need to be ahead and finish ahead of the HRT in the races.

The HRT cars have KERS, surely it's still too early to say this because we really have no idea how fast both of these cars will be but according to logic (assuming their pace are about the same and no reliability issues involved), even if they qualified ahead of the HRTs, they need to be fast and they need to defend their position against the HRTs. In order to do that, they must have the KERS to defend/fight in case if they lost a position to HRT unless as I said, the Marussia car is able to pull of a Sebby V first lap and run away from the HRTs. Otherwse, the HRT will get them at the start, on the first lap or anywhere and just escape with the help of the KERS.

The way I see Marussia at the moment is like, they are going to war with a greater number or armies but no weapon to defend and fight against their main rival.
 
InvincibleM5
No, I'm not saying that they're going to fight with everyone on the grid but if they have decided to be ahead of the HRT, they need to be ahead and finish ahead of the HRT in the races.
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And they think that the easiest way to do that is to concentrate on developing the aerodynamics. KERS doesn't just give you a half-second advantage per lap. It comes with all manner of challenges - it's 30kg of fixed weight, it's a complex system, and the slightest fault with it can effectively turn it into a brick. Every minute the team spends trying to figure out KERS is a minute that Marussia feel is better-spent trying to improve the aerodynamics of the car. So whatever benefit there is to be gained through KERS, it is offset by other disadvantages. Good aerodynamics with no KERS is always better than KERS with bad aerodynamics, and that is the assessment Marussia had to make.
 
XRFalcon
I thought they weren't using a steeped nose? Or am I missing something here?
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They said there will be no stepped-nose on the car but in fact there's a small bump on the nose? :confused:

I might have also missed something about this.

prisonermonkeys
*snip*
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I think that is ture. It's not worth it to have a dodgy KERS system and wasting half a season going around about it and terminating all the other plans just to make the bloody KERS working. Now, if they can somehow pull out a Red Bull Racing version of backmarker, I think there is a chance for them to race ahead of the HRTs. If they really are serious in this CFD matter, they must make this car able to run away from the KERS aided HRTs.

One step at a time, but in the end they must have a KERS anyway even if it's a smaller version like Red Bull's.
 
The car looks like a GP2 car to me, and not because of the livery. The nose looks like something from an F1 car in the 90's, and the front wing looks no different. It's not very curvy, and I find it a bit unappealing in terms of shape. Hopefully that will change over time.
 
So that is the pig Glock will have to drive an entire season. It looks even slow in these photos and totally uninspired.
 
Hate the new livery, prefer the one the used from their first year in the sport. The nose looks a bit boxed up and not at all curvaceous.
 
InvincibleM5
No, I'm not saying that they're going to fight with everyone on the grid but if they have decided to be ahead of the HRT, they need to be ahead and finish ahead of the HRT in the races.

The HRT cars have KERS, surely it's still too early to say this because we really have no idea how fast both of these cars will be but according to logic (assuming their pace are about the same and no reliability issues involved), even if they qualified ahead of the HRTs, they need to be fast and they need to defend their position against the HRTs. In order to do that, they must have the KERS to defend/fight in case if they lost a position to HRT unless as I said, the Marussia car is able to pull of a Sebby V first lap and run away from the HRTs. Otherwse, the HRT will get them at the start, on the first lap or anywhere and just escape with the help of the KERS.

The way I see Marussia at the moment is like, they are going to war with a greater number or armies but no weapon to defend and fight against their main rival.
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At least though, HRT are not using KERS till later in the season - they have designed their car to accept it but have chosen not to use it yet due to their lack of testing.
 
Ardius
At least though, HRT are not using KERS till later in the season - they have designed their car to accept it but have chosen not to use it yet due to their lack of testing.
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That, as well as to get some reliability under their belt for the new car first, before bringing KERS into the mix. They will run without it until May, and plan to have it on the car for the in-season test at Mugello. After that, they will decide whether or not they will keep it on the car for the time.

I'm surprised that Marussia aren't running KERS this year, with their main rivals Caterham and HRT choosing to. Especially with a technical partnership with McLaren.
 
Ardius
At least though, HRT are not using KERS till later in the season - they have designed their car to accept it but have chosen not to use it yet due to their lack of testing.
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Oh, I thought they will be using it as soon as the first race...

Peter.
I'm surprised that Marussia aren't running KERS this year, with their main rivals Caterham and HRT choosing to. Especially with a technical partnership with McLaren.
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But the thing is, we aren't sure of how far the technical partnership between them goes. The KERS system may not be covered under their partnership deal.

Anyway, not really a surprising news but Marussia has finally passes final FIA crash test and is eligible to race in Australia.
 

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