Max to step down, immediatley.

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Wow, what an interesting set of developments, this season has been filled with it's ups and downs, but to be honest i believe this is the right thing to do.

No one can say that Max has not introduced many innovative ideas to F1, but it's time to step down. Formula1 is going into a new uncharted direction. A new face to replace Max would bring some fresh eyes to the sport.

Finally we all could put all this nonesense of the past few months to rest at last.

http://www.planetf1.com/story/0,18954,3213_5400036,00.html
 
Or not...

Max Mosley
I was therefore astonished to learn that FOTA has been briefing the press that Mr Boeri has taken charge of Formula 1, something which you [Luca di Montizemolo] know is completely untrue; that I had been forced out of office, also false; and, apparently, that I would have no role in the FIA after October, something which is plain nonsense, if only because of the FIA statutes.
 
I can see this ending up with yet another FOTA release stating that the break-away is back on, it was always quite obvious one of the main aims they had was Max out of office. A threat from him to change his mind is not a good sign at all for the current 'truce'.


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Scaff
 
I don't see how Mosley can hope to win the election if a) doing so will likely provoke FOTA into breaking away and b) he has already said he would step down in Ocotber, thus breaking his promise and his terms of the deal. This isn't Max Mosley speaking on behalf of the FIA, this is Max Mosley speaking as Max Mosley.
 
If Max stands, he will win. At each of the (three now?) elections for which he's stood, the rival has always been given a better chance. Max can persuade people to side with him. Perhaps he's a Jedi Master.
 
Oh look.............

FIA president Max Mosley has revealed that he is under pressure to stand for re-election from other members of the sport's governing body, after admitting that he does not expect to receive the apology he demanded from Formula One Teams' Association (FOTA) president Luca di Montezemolo on Thursday.

Mosley, speaking in an interview with the Mail on Sunday, said that while he would rather stand down in October, he was prepared to do whatever was required in the face of a potential conflict with Formula 1's car manufacturers.

"They made the mistake of dancing on my grave before I was buried," Mosley told the newspaper. "It's no good the teams getting a PR agency to claim I am dead and buried when I am standing here as large as life. I am under pressure now from all over the world to stand for re-election.

"I don't actually want to," he added. "I feel I am a little bit too old.

"When I started I was old enough to be the father of the younger Formula 1 drivers; now I am old enough to be the grandfather of some of those driving today. Although I don't feel old, I must seem very old to them. It definitely needs somebody new from that point of view.

"Generally, when you have done something for 16 years, as I have done, it's about time to stop. You get a little bit stale.

"I do genuinely want to stop. But if there is going to be a big conflict with the car industry, for example, with the FOTA teams, then I won't stop. I will do whatever I have to do. It's not in my nature to walk away from a fight."

Mosley, F1 rights holder Bernie Ecclestone and di Montezemolo announced a deal to end the row over budget caps and bring the threat of a breakaway series in 2010 to a close last Wednesday. At the time, Mosley said that he would not stand for re-election.

But press briefings by FOTA team principals the following day angered Mosley, who felt that they had suggested he had been forced from office and labelled him a 'dictator'. He was also annoyed by suggestions that FIA Senate president Michel Boeri would assume his role in overseeing the FIA's F1 affairs until October.

Mosley sent a letter to di Montezemolo demanding a public apology in Thursday's FOTA press conference, which was not forthcoming.

"I don't really expect Luca will apologise or withdraw in the way that he should," Mosley told the newspaper. "Yet, on the other hand, within the motorsport world nobody takes him seriously. He's seen as what the Italians call a 'bella figura'.

"He's chairman of Fiat but the serious individual who runs it is Sergio Marchionne, and I don't suppose he takes much notice of Luca.

"When di Montezemolo comes out with things that are picked up internationally, when people in the UK, for example, read this, they tend to believe it," he added.

"And when FOTA say all this nonsense about Boeri replacing me, that also tends to be believed. I think once we have all that put to bed and the teams come back to the deal we did, then I will be happy sticking with the deal we made. I am working on FIA matters from my office in Monaco. It is business as usual."

Mosley dismissed suggestions that he acted like a dicator as 'nonsense', adding that decisions were taken by the World Motor Sport Council. He also revealed that he had privately made clear to them that he would stand down from office.

"Complete lies have been told," said Mosley. "That was obviously very annoying and not just for me.

"It has given the impression to the member clubs of the FIA that the car industry had dictated who the president could be and what the president should do. That caused uproar. Once a year we have a general assembly where all 132 countries belonging to the FIA endorse what has been done.

"If someone is unhappy with what has been done, they would say so and we'd have a vote. I don't have the power to dictate. I only have the power to execute the decisions that the WMSC have taken."

In the interview Mosley admitted that the past two years of his life had been very difficult. But he said that while the death of his son and last year's highly publicised sex scandal had taken their toll, he would not walk away from the FIA presidency while he perceived the organisation's independence to be under threat.

"The past 16 months have been difficult," he admitted. "It is appalling if somebody takes some part of your life that you have always kept completely secret and puts it all over the front page of a newspaper. Yet, obviously, the death of my son was far worse. By comparison, my spats with di Montezemolo are trivial.

"However, I do not want to leave the president's office in a way where it was suggested that people from the car industry had pushed me out. If that impression is not completely dispelled, the clubs are going to insist that I stand again.

"So I hope very much that it will be dispelled before we get to that point. And when the time comes to hand all this to somebody else, it will not be with sadness, it will be with relief."
Source - http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/76602


......seriously Max does appear that he simply wants to screw F1 up for good.


Scaff
 
I thought that a rule was put in place in 2005 to prevent an FIA President from serving more than two terms of office? I can't remember where I read it though.
 
Max Mosley is a creep :yuck: makes my skin crawl :sick:

Hey Max, go crawl back under the rock from which you emerged, you primeval piece of protozoan slime...

In any case, just butt out and leave now. Besides, is there any way--which you haven't already thought of--that you
could screw up F1 any worse than you already have? :confused:
 
I thought that a rule was put in place in 2005 to prevent an FIA President from serving more than two terms of office? I can't remember where I read it though.
That's true, but while Max is in his fourth term of office, it's only his first under the new rules, so he can run for one more.
 
Well Ecclestone thinks Mosley would make a "good dictator"...

UK Times
"Bernie Ecclestone, the Formula One chief, said yesterday that he preferred totalitarian regimes to democracies and praised Adolf Hitler for his ability to “get things done”.[...]

Claiming he likes “strong leaders”, such as Margaret Thatcher, Mr Ecclestone suggested that Max Mosley, his close friend, the president of the Fédération Internationale de l’Automobile (FIA), would make a good Prime Minister."

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/formula_1/article6633340.ece

Ok, so Luca's not the only one, it seems...is Max gonna demand an apology for being compared to Hitler?

These two senile clowns are made for each other...
 
My God, just when i thought Bernie had at least one good marble left in that cave in between his ears he went and opended his mouth..Maybe Hitler would have made a great football coach too then, eh Bernie?

The sooner these two vanish into obscurity the better.
 
It's amazing how stupid people can get. Their egos must be immense.
 
It's all over, F1 is scarred for life. Those idiots are ruining everything for everyone. I say, bring on the breakaway series. At least they will care about the fans. Then we will have a CART vs. IRL on a much larger scale.
 
I say, bring on the breakaway series.
It's already been decided that won't happen.

At least they will care about the fans.
So they say, but talk is cheap.

Then we will have a CART vs. IRL on a much larger scale.
That ... is possibly the worst outcome I can think of. It wasn't bad before the split, but once Cart and IRL went their separate ways, but series sucked.
 
My God, just when i thought Bernie had at least one good marble left in that cave in between his ears he went and opended his mouth..Maybe Hitler would have made a great football coach too then, eh Bernie?

The sooner these two vanish into obscurity the better.

Could not agree more!

It seems that a day doesn't go by lately where F1 doesn't get a slagging in the press!

Super_Spig
 
That ... is possibly the worst outcome I can think of. It wasn't bad before the split, but once Cart and IRL went their separate ways, but series sucked.

The only similarity I can think of between F1 and Pre-split CART is being open-wheel; beyond that it wasn't even the same situation, not immediately doomed as some think it would've been. FOTA already had the fanbase support guaranteed. Besides, I'd like to think that most people would rather watch a series with the best teams in the world and cheaper ticket prices, versus a procession of mostly F3-level feeding crazy money to a pair of nazi-loving dictators...
 
The FOTA series was flawed in that it didn't have a clear gorverning body - it was never going to work if the teams were the only ones making the rules, and I strongly suspect that they hadn't discussed that particular issue yet. Somewhere down the line the teams would disagree, thats the nature of competitors.
 
....which leads to the point of dictatorship. Honestly I see his point, but you can understand how some people could focus on one thing and ignore the rest after reading Hitler and Saddam.
 
The FOTA series was flawed in that it didn't have a clear gorverning body - it was never going to work if the teams were the only ones making the rules, and I strongly suspect that they hadn't discussed that particular issue yet. Somewhere down the line the teams would disagree, thats the nature of competitors.

Anything would be better than the circus sideshow Bernie and Max are running.
 
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....which leads to the point of dictatorship. Honestly I see his point, but you can understand how some people could focus on one thing and ignore the rest after reading Hitler and Saddam.

Anything would be better than the circus sideshow, Bernie and Max are running.

Oh I agree with the idea that we need a change of leadership, but FOTA were never going to be able to sort out their own series governing themselves - that would be just as bad.

I'm not going to bother with Bernie's comments, he has gone over the line this time but he always says crazy things, and he always seems to have a reason. Look back at the news over the years and you will find many quotes from him over the years which have gotten all over the media.
Frankly, you can't really replace Bernie at the moment, he makes some stupid decisions but he does get things sorted out and you have to respect what he has done over the years. It would be dangerous to take him out suddenly, many people would make a grab for power. (its an interesting discussion actually about who should succeed Bernie or how the power should be divided)
So, for now, I think Bernie should be left as is until Max/the FIA/FOTA have sorted their quarrels out.

I'm not so sure a series run by the competitors themselves would be better....you hate the current politics? It would only become worse if the teams were in control, they all have something to gain for themselves. What we need is what FOTA appears to be pushing for - a change in leadership at the FIA and a better balance of power.
 
Someone should put Alan Gow in charge. He keeps working wonders with the BTCC and he's chairman of the company that organises the British Grand Prix. And he isn't a megalomaniacal loony like Mosely and Ecclestone.
 
I wonder what would happen if NASCAR's Mike Helton was caught with 5 prostitutes dressed up as KKK members

Then I wonder what would happen if Bill France Jr said anything close to the Hitler comments Eccelstone made

I've stopped watching F1 this year around Round 5, and I don't think I'll ever watch it again.

You have complete idiots running the series. Eccelstone even had the nerve to blast americans (Again), saying they thought Bosnia was a town in Miami (How is a town within a city??)

I feel sorry for anyone who watches the crap that is F1, and if your American and you bash American motor racing like NASCAR and the IRL only to go suck after F1 because it's so "classy" when the people who run it laugh at you and are miserable SOBs then whatever. Enjoy yourself
 
I feel sorry for anyone who watches the crap that is F1, and if your American and you bash American motor racing like NASCAR and the IRL only to go suck after F1 because it's so "classy" when the people who run it laugh at you and are miserable SOBs then whatever. Enjoy yourself

A bit of irony there
 
I wonder what would happen if NASCAR's Mike Helton was caught with 5 prostitutes dressed up as KKK members

Then I wonder what would happen if Bill France Jr said anything close to the Hitler comments Eccelstone made

I've stopped watching F1 this year around Round 5, and I don't think I'll ever watch it again.

You have complete idiots running the series. Eccelstone even had the nerve to blast americans (Again), saying they thought Bosnia was a town in Miami (How is a town within a city??)

I feel sorry for anyone who watches the crap that is F1, and if your American and you bash American motor racing like NASCAR and the IRL only to go suck after F1 because it's so "classy" when the people who run it laugh at you and are miserable SOBs then whatever. Enjoy yourself

Dude it is that bad?
 
The FOTA series was flawed in that it didn't have a clear gorverning body - it was never going to work if the teams were the only ones making the rules, and I strongly suspect that they hadn't discussed that particular issue yet. Somewhere down the line the teams would disagree, thats the nature of competitors.

Conversely, FOTA shouldn't even exist if all teams care about is themselves. Believing that teams wouldn't get past their differences was the cause of Mosley's fall. But after what just happened in F1, agreeing to an independent enforcer is minor stuff. Obviously, at the time they didn't have an answer to that question because it was a new decision; this was just another of the details they were about to iron out before Bernie & Max freaked out and gave in.
 
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