Maybe Kazunori just needs to see a thread... (Laundry List, Fanboys Stay Out)

[XxMerlinxX]

Where all of the problems are listed out so he can get around to fixing them. Here are my gripes in no particular order, feel free to add to them as you see fit.

1. No brake upgrades.

2. Want to paint your car blue but haven't gotten the chip yet? Sorry, haven't heard of that color.

3. All of this research that they spent on cars and a lot of them don't handle the way they should. I get that a lot of people here may not have a lot of seat time with the real cars, or at all, but that Lotus challenge where it's on ice skates should be proof enough.

4. Synthesized car sounds. I will never ever understand this one.

5. Where's all this "realistic" damage I keep hearing about in the commercials? If you damage a standard car, you know what happens? It melts. Run into a wall doing 100mph? Don't worry, your headlight will just deform a little bit, no big deal, shake it off.

6. Car manufacturers are missing. Want to go buy a Porsche Carrera GT? A what? Never heard of it. How about a Cadillac? That some sort of new coffee maker?

7. Some car manufacturers only have one car for you to choose from in the new dealership section. When was the last time you saw a car lot that had only one model of car???

8. But don't worry, you can pick everything else up used! Eventually...

9. Except then you'll have to do $75k worth of maintenance to get it running like new again.

10. You only get one race for some of the challenges, I believe the Mini race is a good example of this.

11. They can release game settings for a steering wheel that hasn't even hit the market yet, but they can't patch the settings for the Logi G25/27???

12. Idiotic AI. All computer controlled cars must be a.)driven by elderly women who have been blinded in both eyes and b.)weigh 3 times the normal amount so as to plow you off the road more easily.

13. Shadows.

14. When driving a car, and you hit another car, it does not sound like two canoes banging together.

15. Prize cars need to be something special. I have been let down so many times so far.

16. Need more tracks. Spa, Bathurst, and Pikes Peak come to mind.

17. Realistic tuning. Try walking into a performance tuning shop and asking them to upgrade your Eclipse with a "Stage 3" package.

18. Menu Music. I've heard better while standing in an elevator. The problem is that everyone has different tastes when it comes to music, so you should be able to load your own.

19. Have I mentioned the AI and realistic handling? I saw a '74 Countach come in ahead of an '09 Murcielago the other day. In what world would this ever be possible? Maybe if the Murc was running on donuts?

20. Requiring a Lvl 24 car for a Lvl 23 race that may or may not show up in the used car lot.

21. Which leads me to... grinding. WoW this is not.

22. How hard would it be to make wheels interchangeable on standard cars?

23. Adjustable transmissions that aren't... adjustable.

24. I haven't played online yet, but from what I've read, no leaderboards or credits to be earned online?

 

[Sam.]

Rant over?

 

[m0j0NL]

Rant over?

A rant yeah, but a good rant.

 

[tdk]

When was the last time you saw a car lot that had only one model of car???

mclaren's >__>

18. Music. I've heard better while standing in an elevator. The problem is that everyone has different tastes when it comes to music, so you should be able to load your own.

I thought I was alone on this, GT4 actually had quite a few good songs. Van halen's panama, TWO jimmy eat world songs and getting away with murder by papa roach(I hate them don't call me out on this).

edit-

WAIT, you CAN actually have custom soundtracks. You didn't know?

 

[SolidSnakex]

A rant yeah, but a good rant.

Not really. He complains about the physics and brings up the Lotus challenge but fails to mention that the Lotus handles the way it does in that challenge due to the choice of tires. All that really shows is how much the physics engine can be impacted by tire choice. If you put racing softs on that Lotus it'll feel completely different (as you'd expect). And then he also brings up the extremely tired Porsche complaining. If you want Porsche in GT then go complain to EA. There's nothing that PD can do about it.

 

[P1]

18. Music. I've heard better while standing in an elevator. The problem is that everyone has different tastes when it comes to music, so you should be able to load your own.

The songs are good but you can load your use your own music in the options menu if you don't link them.

 

[dmeech]

As for porsche not being in the game if I recall correctly EA has an exclusive deal with Porsche for video game rights. So Polyphony's work around is including Ruf tuned Porsches.

With regards to credits for online play Im not too big on that. Far too often Ive been playing online only to be spun out by a competitor near the end of a race, or lost due to someone deciding to go against the traffic flow for fun. Now if there where weekly or daily solo time attack challenges that could be fun. Like place in the top 200 fastest lap times get credits.

In races you can load your own music tracks, Just deal with the menu music.

Prize cars are annoying especially when you win one that would be suitable for the seires you just completed. Would be better if you beat one series and it got you a car that could compete in another series. What do I need another Lupo for after winning the Lupo Challenge?

You forgot no fastforeward and rewind in replays.

 

[RacingManiac]

custom music works...haven't been listening to the stock GT5 music since the first day I figure out how to do it...

 

[dmeech]

custom music works...haven't been listening to the stock GT5 music since the first day I figure out how to do it...

This was the first thing I did when I got the game no lie. I went right to the settings and turned on my own music selection. I figured they had done this since GTPSP had the ability to set that up.

Edit* Related to music, I much preferred the menu music in the previous GT games.

 

[P_908-3]

I've an addition to your comprehensive list.

How about being able to save multiple set-ups for your car??

Or is this already possible and I'm somehow missing it?

 

[thedeester1]

I liked that rant....Some Valid points...Though if you dont like the soundtrack you can make your own now M8....Search the forums...My sound track is awesome now. AI you only complain that an old car beats a new car...Dude did you do the special License yet. Damn thats tough. Out brake an AI car and they turn into you. Challenge over....Makes me mad...Or even you try to draft a car and for no apperent reason they brake see above. I Would like the AI fixed first....I could post more but ill have to go and look at your rant cause I got on one of my own.....

The physics with a wheel are fantasic though? The only reason im still playing...I keep finding all the downers then I power slide a lambo into the first Hairpin on Grand Valley....Thats the Grin factor

 

[P_908-3]

As for porsche not being in the game if I recall correctly EA has an exclusive deal with Porsche for video game rights. So Polyphony's work around is including Ruf tuned Porsches.

So explain Forza's Porsche line-up to me then?

You forgot no fastforeward and rewind in replays.

And how about being able to switch cars in replays like in GT4? Used to love switching to a car I had a good battle with and then watching myself from its perspective.

 

[CerealKiller]

This game is not for you.

 

[ghostrider135]

You forgot to mention that no matter how high a level your b-spec driver is and how you set the car up for him he still brakes on a corner that can be taken flatout and how he brakes so early that he ends up cornering at 2mph, I'm particularly pissed off about this since 1 I hate NASCAR for a start off and 2 b-spec is half the ruddy game

 

[alonsof1fan91]

You forgot no fastforeward and rewind in replays.

I wonder how those guys managed to forget THIS.

+ I hate the fact that you can`t drive some practise runs when entering an event. And even more disturbing, after noticing some things like wrong gears/tires/wings and leaving the race, you get back to the menu.

 

[StogyBear]

Fix the god damn headlights so I can beat the toscana challenge. No way in hell are lambo xenons as strong as my flashlight

 

[P1]

So explain Forza's Porsche line-up to me then?

Microsoft throw a lot of money at EA.

 

[adder80]

Good rant? Not really. Sarcastic? Oh yeah!

Lotus challenge = realistic
Missing cars? Yeah, there are thousands upon thousands of cars missing from this game. For shame O_o
Missing tracks? See above.. People think it's so easy putting content in a game.
Standard car wheel upgrades? Who cares? If you polish a turd...
Weak car damage? Stop hitting stuff.

I agree with the shadows, AI, collision sounds and paint (though i don't care much about the paint thing). Everything else is pretty irrelevant to me. A more thought out, less sarcastic approach would be more useful if PD or Kaz were to read list a of suggestions.

 

[thedeester1]

Fix the god damn headlights so I can beat the toscana challenge. No way in hell are lambo xenons as strong as my flashlight

Wait till you do SSR5 on the special license...Your lights stop working when ever your near another car.....They dont light up cars and if your near a car they dont light the track...I think headlights were a gimmic can we go back to GT1 SSR5 it was better!

 

[Boris Lozac]

4. Synthesized car sounds. I will never ever understand this one.

I thought it's some serious thread talking about real problems but it's just another kid or a casual with his wishlist..

 

[MeechShrykull]

IMO the biggest problem is that all but 2 cars are purchasable.

 

[SolidSnakex]

So explain Forza's Porsche line-up to me then?

Pretty easy to explain. They were able to use it in exchange for usage of the Ferrari brand, which MS has exclusivity of on the 360. Do you just think that it's coincidence that Ferrari's showed up exclusively in the 360 version of NFS: Shift while Porsche somehow ended up in Forza 3, despite EA holding exclusivity of the brand on consoles?

 

[XxMerlinxX]

WAIT, you CAN actually have custom soundtracks. You didn't know?

I didn't. I fiddled with the sound for all of five seconds, just turned music off during races, set it to small theater, and that was it really.

Not really. He complains about the physics and brings up the Lotus challenge but fails to mention that the Lotus handles the way it does in that challenge due to the choice of tires. All that really shows is how much the physics engine can be impacted by tire choice. If you put racing softs on that Lotus it'll feel completely different (as you'd expect). And then he also brings up the extremely tired Porsche complaining. If you want Porsche in GT then go complain to EA. There's nothing that PD can do about it.

The Elise isn't the only car affected by this, however the only cars that I have extensive on track seat time in are a 2zz Celica, which I haven't bought yet because I can't find one, and a 3rd gen RX-7, which truly does not handle as it should regardless of what settings I change or what I do to it. As far as Porsche goes, I see them in other games, I don't see why they can't be included in this one.

I wonder how those guys managed to forget THIS.

+ I hate the fact that you can`t drive some practise runs when entering an event. And even more disturbing, after noticing some things like wrong gears/tires/wings and leaving the race, you get back to the menu.

Good points as well.

Fix the god damn headlights so I can beat the toscana challenge. No way in hell are lambo xenons as strong as my flashlight

This too.

 

[andrez004]

I agree with pretty much everything!

Prize cars are annoying especially when you win one that would be suitable for the seires you just completed. Would be better if you beat one series and it got you a car that could compete in another series. What do I need another Lupo for after winning the Lupo Challenge?

You forgot no fastforeward and rewind in replays.

Yeah so I win the Lupo challenge with my Lupo cup car and for a reward I get.... Sweet another stock Lupo! Awesome! Also the no replays for 2 player really sucks. Me and my best buddies have epic races all the time and I always find us watching the replays in gt4

 

[XxMerlinxX]

I thought it's some serious thread talking about real problems but it's just another kid or a casual with his wishlist..

If you don't like the sound of sports cars, the REAL sound of sports cars, I'm afraid you're not much of a motorsports fan. Either that or you've never heard a real sports car in person.

 

[Goudvis]

Finally a thread with negative points!

 

[AlexGTV]

I love GT5 and when you are in love you see no shortcomings just ...the Zonda R?!?

 

[Devedander]

I've an addition to your comprehensive list.

How about being able to save multiple set-ups for your car??

Or is this already possible and I'm somehow missing it?

It's not possible and I really want that feature... if I have a car I really like I will actually tune it for each track I race it on... this of course really only works well if I can tune individual gear ratios though as the point is to run out of gear right at the breaking marker.

Pretty easy to explain. They were able to use it in exchange for usage of the Ferrari brand, which MS has exclusivity of on the 360. Do you just think that it's coincidence that Ferrari's showed up exclusively in the 360 version of NFS: Shift while Porsche somehow ended up in Forza 3, despite EA holding exclusivity of the brand on consoles?

So what you are saying is that Porshce is not exclusive to EA, just PD did not negotiate to use them in GT5? You know, negotiate a license deal like they had to with every other car they use with whoever holds the license for those cars?

I didn't. I fiddled with the sound for all of five seconds, just turned music off during races, set it to small theater, and that was it really.

Well then YOU can't have custom soundtracks becuase the only music you can change is race music, menu music (which is apparently all you have left on) is stuck with the canned stuff.

 

[SigmaViper11]

Hmm. . . On the prize cars note. I car that can be used for something else but is still relevant to the race. Lupo cup. . . don't award another Lupo, give me a Beetle RSi, or a Nardo( < That one might be excessive). American cars race, if its street cars give me a race car. . . If street corvettes, Vipers, mustangs, Camaros and etc are in the competition give me a race variant of one. An Oreca Viper maybe. Just sayin.

It's not possible and I really want that feature... if I have a car I really like I will actually tune it for each track I race it on... this of course really only works well if I can tune individual gear ratios though as the point is to run out of gear right at the breaking marker.

You can adjust gear ratios already. Just get a racing trans and go to the nob symbol next to the item in the tuning functions.

 

[-=DV=-]

Microsoft throw a lot of money at EA.

You do realise that PD recieves more funding for GT than T10 recieves for fm?

From memory while GT had a budget of something like 60 million dollars, Both fm2 and fm3 shared a budget of less than 25 million dollars between them. I thought fanboys were asked to stay away from this thread. Please try to keep an objective and truthful point of view when trying to tear this fellows legitimate list of shortcomings apart.