McLAREN F1 LM

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i now its not relavent to gt3 but the mclarens have to be added to a future version of gt..the closest i have got to a look alike is the zii..i want the fastest production car that can do 0-60mph in 2.9 seconds and go onto 225mph and that is the lm that is a better track car than the standard mclaren..any1 agree shout YYIIPPEEEE!!
 
There's a faster car now: Bugatti Veyron 16.4 252mph whereas the F1 is 24x while it's official speed is only 231mph.
 
Andrews rite. The new Bugatti is going to beat the **** out of mclaren. from what i read its an 8.0 liter quad turbo w16!!!!
it will put mclaren to shame:eek:
 
Originally posted by HighOnNitrous
Andrew's right. The new Bugatti is going to beat the pooh out of the Mclaren. From what I've read it's an 8.0 liter quad turbo w16!!!! It will put Mclaren to shame.

Yes....

...the shame of holding the mantle for 10 years, and winning Le Mans, when it was never designed to race. The shame...
 
holy crap! How much fuel whill that consume!?!?!..... But hey... If u got enof money to buy the car u got enof money to pay for gas right?
 
Originally posted by CoCkRoCkEt
i now its not relavent to gt3 but the mclarens have to be added to a future version of gt..the closest i have got to a look alike is the zii..i want the fastest production car that can do 0-60mph in 2.9 seconds and go onto 225mph and that is the lm that is a better track car than the standard mclaren..any1 agree shout YYIIPPEEEE!!

I don't know where exactly to start with what's wrong here...

First, if it's car, not GT3, related, it should be in the Cars In General forum. Or possibly Rumour & Speculation?

Second the McLaren F1 LM isn't the fastest production car, because it's not a production car. 5 were made to commemorate the 5 finishers at Le Mans.

Third the stock McLaren F1 has tested figures of 0-60mph in 3.2s (like you'd notice 0.3s - you could lose that through an inept gearchange) and a maximum speed of 241mph - which makes the 225mph look pretty ordinary. This WAS the fastest production car in the world - for top speed only. But it's not made any more - the fastest current production car is probably the Koenigsegg CC, but if that's not actually been tested yet, it's the Lamborghini Murcielago.

The fastest ratified acceleration for a standard production road car from rest to 60mph is 3.06s in the Ford RS200 Evolution, set in 1994. This is STILL in the Guinness Book of Records. There have been one or two challengers, and if Tiger can ever get round to making the Z1 to full production, they've got a decent claim (twin-engine - 1.3i Hayabusa engines - Seven derivative.
 
Originally posted by Famine
I don't know where exactly to start with what's wrong here...

First, if it's car, not GT3, related, it should be in the Cars In General forum. Or possibly Rumour & Speculation?

Second the McLaren F1 LM isn't the fastest production car, because it's not a production car. 5 were made to commemorate the 5 finishers at Le Mans.

Third the stock McLaren F1 has tested figures of 0-60mph in 3.2s (like you'd notice 0.3s - you could lose that through an inept gearchange) and a maximum speed of 241mph - which makes the 225mph look pretty ordinary. This WAS the fastest production car in the world - for top speed only. But it's not made any more - the fastest current production car is probably the Koenigsegg CC, but if that's not actually been tested yet, it's the Lamborghini Murcielago.

The fastest ratified acceleration for a standard production road car from rest to 60mph is 3.06s in the Ford RS200 Evolution, set in 1994. This is STILL in the Guinness Book of Records. There have been one or two challengers, and if Tiger can ever get round to making the Z1 to full production, they've got a decent claim (twin-engine - 1.3i Hayabusa engines - Seven derivative.
What about the Enzo? Nothing comes close to it in terms of track performance. It destroys the McLaren F1, Murcielago, Saleen ASL.. you name it, it pretty much beats.
 
I've yet to see any proven figures on the Enzo yet - just "manufacturer's claimed figures"... Not good enough...

The claimed figures I've seen put it behind the F1 to 60 (although ahead at 100), and slower than the F1 outright.

Saleen S7 isn't a production car either - yet. As for ASL (Autobacs Sportscar Laboratories, for anyone who wants to know)... The only thing I know that they've built is the re-bodied Tk ZZII, the Garaiya. And I've only heard of a single racecar version of it - hardly production.

The Koenigsegg's claimed figures are 0-60mph in 3.0s and 250mph top speed - which blows the Enzo AND McLaren out of the water. But until there has been an actual test of these figures, the Murcielago stands.

You should note that the TVR Speed 12 also claims 0-60mph in 3s and 240mph, which makes the Enzo look foolish. But no-one's dared have a go yet... :D
 
Originally posted by HighOnNitrous
Andrews rite. The new Bugatti is going to beat the **** out of mclaren. from what i read its an 8.0 liter quad turbo w16!!!!
it will put mclaren to shame:eek:


Yay, awesome! Let's all just have 1000+ horsepower, no real aerodynamic advances, AND a curb weight of over 3500 pounds! I smell a dream car, don't you?!:banghead:

I want to see you attempt to muscle that beast around a track, please.

When looking at true performance and bang for your buck, nothing comes close to the McLaren F1 and the Koenigsegg C8-S. With weights of around 2800 and 2600lbs, respectively, the true arse-kicking titles go to them. I will never deny that the McLaren is without a doubt, one of the finest creations in human history and its throne has only now been taken by the C8-S. Just think, though, it took man 10 years to finally find the advances to surpass the f1, that's an incredible length of time to hold badassness. Right now, I think the C8 is standing high among the ranks, the aerodynamics and suspension work really can't be beaten when compared to other road cars. I'm sorry to Ferrari fans, but I don't think the Ezno has much of a reign here. It's heavier than the F1 and C8 and just doesn't come close to being a competitor, although, it is less pricey.

When talking about the Veyron, you're looking at a giant chunk of mass that some genius thought would be a nice experiment for the most power you can stuff into a road car...Hurray for modern vehicular engineering. It has nothing...I merely has fans that gawk at the power figures. It'll never be able to participate in any real racing event and the most it'll amount to is a fast car (with the aid of FOUR turbochargers, mind you, and a seventh gear). If you'd like to see real speed, find someone to fabricate a turbo manifold for the BMW v12 residing within the F1, vent the luggage compartments and stuff in some charge/intercoolers, and add a different transmission with longer ratios, possibly a seventh gear. Sure, all this would require research and development, and of course money, but hey, that's what Bugatti had to do with the Veyron, and you'd get the staggering figures you enjoy so much now...Hmm...They should have just stayed with refining the EB-110, but of course you're stuck with another weak quad-turbo design. Bah!
 
I cant say im a huge Ferrari fan, but the Enzo does have some killer aerodynamics.
Why else would it look so strange..
 

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I was going to post something about how silly that Bugatti piggy is, but MidasGT pretty much said exactly what I was going to (until he started rambling a bit there at the end).
 
Originally posted by BadBatsuMaru
I was going to post something about how silly that Bugatti piggy is, but MidasGT pretty much said exactly what I was going to (until he started rambling a bit there at the end).

I just couldn't help myself! :lol: ...I just find the hype behind the power and speed of the Veyron a bit on the odd side...I mean, if you want 1,000+ hp, just buy some fuel management options for a JZA80, a four-row intercooler, a Jun 3.3 stroker kit, and a large turbo, boom, a good amount of horsepower (into the thousands being easily attainable with proper tuning) for less than a tenth of the price! Hell, Jun holds a record for a modified road car...240 and some odd mph in a Supra straight six...But, of course you can't brag about spending your well earned 1.3 million on a Japanese street car...

End futher rambling.
 
actually the Mclarens OFFICIAL top speed is 240 ish, not "230"...And the Veyron's been #1 since 2000, people just barely began to recognize it.
 
But the question is, who really gives a damn about top speed? Even if the McLaren's top speed was 150 MPH and the Bugatti could do 500, the McLaren would still win on any road coarse.

If top speed's really the issue, why don't they just make a production version of the 1997 Thrust SSC, which is supersonic at 766.109 MPH?

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Or here's the regular wheel-driven 1965 Goldenrod with four Chrysler Hemi's. It could do 409.277 MPH almost 40 years ago.

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The 1983 Thrust 2 is also pretty quick.

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Top speed by itself is silly.
 
quite a lot of u are greatly mistaken...even the moderator...firstly the lamborghini mercelago is not even a puff of smoke behind the mclaren f1...it is heavyier than the the zonda with only 560bhp...its 0-60 time is just about under 4 seconds..secondly while the enzo has 660bhp its 0-60 time is agen about 3.6 seconds while the f1 is 3.2..thridly the the top speed for the standard f1 is 241mph..reached in 2000..fourthly the lm was counted as a production car as they did make 5 and is not a concept because more then 1 was made...the lm f1 has 667bhp over the standard 627bhp..the 0-60 time is 2.9 seconds..iv seen the official stats in the mclaren center where it was tested and built...it has larger wheels diameter and radius with bigger brakes...more downforce but with a higher gear ratio so the acceleration is quicker but the top speed is slowed to 225mph which on most tracks wud not matter as on average the highest speed possible is 200mph and that is formula 1 ..so the race up 2 that speed of 200mph would be a lot quicker...fourthly no car has been designed to the same standard as the mclaren..even down to the peddles were designed to be light weight..sony developed a special cd player for the f1 as normal 1s are to heavy...horsepower means nothing..iv got accurate videos of a 1000bhp skyline get thrashed by the standard mclaren!!..over all conclusion..until you driven a f1 u realize nothig comes close..there have been attemps but not even the bugatti could beat it on the track..(the LM version im on about)...a lastly it is BRITISH!!
 
hehehe 3 of the 6 McLaren F1 Road cars that are in the US are in Massachussets and the're owned by the same person. I've seen one of the 3 that the guy owns. The rush I got when I saw the damn thing up close and personal was tremendous although I didn't get to sit in it:( but still at least I got to see the thing up close
 
Originally posted by CoCkRoCkEt
fourthly the lm was counted as a production car as they did make 5 and is not a concept because more then 1 was made...the lm f1 has 667bhp over the standard 627bhp..the 0-60 time is 2.9 seconds..iv seen the official stats in the mclaren center where it was tested and built...

The McLaren F1 LM is NOT an official production car. It was a 5 vehicle, limited run special edition.

It has also never been officially independantly tested for 0-60mph acceleration.

According to the Guinness Book of Records, the fastest ever timed 0-60mph time for a standard production road vehicle is 3.06s for a Ford RS200 Evolution, set in 1994 at Millbrook Proving Ground by Graham Hathaway.
 
that is 1994...IT IS BLUDY 2003 NOW!!!...besides iv seen a 750bhp skyline hit 60 in 2.9 secs so ur talking nonsense!!...but that 4wd!
 
Read the words "standard production road vehicle", and contemplate the meaning of them in your tiny little mind before you accuse me of lying again please.
 
Originally posted by donbenni
I always thought the RS200 was a beast, didn't know the figures looked like that on the Evo though... Damn :D

You should have seen the 1-off RS200 GTO IMSA - 850hp from a 2.1 litre engine... Well under 3s off the line - but not a full production vehicle.

The standard RS200 produced 250-350hp, depending on the options, with the Evo producing 450-650hp. The rally car could be tuned from 350-650hp depending on the regulations of the rally it was in.

For history buffs of the 0-60mph time, Graham Hathaway held the record in the RS200 for a little while (the car was made in 1986, remember), then the McLaren F1 came along in 1994 with a 3.2s launch. Hathaway went back out a fortnight later and took it back with the 3.06s time - the quickest of the three runs was actually a 3.05 (the second was 3.07 and the third, discarded time, was 3.14s). The record has never been passed by a standard full-production road car, although some have come close.

CoCkRoCkEt - the McLaren F1 LM was built in 1995. To quote someone "IT IS BLUDY 2003 NOW!!!"
 
thick?? me??..ur american m8...u r dumb ****s..i passed my gcse which needs brain power..not a belly power to c how many burgers i can gollop down...let me put this in ur thick head....TTTHHHEEE MMCCLLAARREEN RRRULZZZ AANNDDD IISSS TTHHEE FFFAASSTTEESSTT PPRRRODDUCCTTIIOONN CCAARR OONN TTHHEE PPLLAANNEEETTT...(that is slow america english)..sorry to any americans that i may have insulted and to americans that mite have a brain cell or 2!!
 
Wow. You'd have thought you could pass a Geography GCSE while you were at it. Which I might point out I did in 1994.

The McLaren F1 IS the fastest production car ever made still, in terms of outright speed (241.25mph). However the McLaren F1 LM is not - because not only is it slower, but it's also not a production car. None of the McLaren F1s are currently the fastest production car, because they have not been made in 7 years.
 
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