McLaren hit with record fine and lose all Constructors points
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PlanetF1 currently says this:
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Yes 
If McLaren are booted out, they may well deserve it (if they have genuinely benefited by cheating), but it means that this whole season is, in my view, utterly destroyed. Every race, every result rendered totally pointless...
This could also potentially destroy McLaren, not to mention F1 itself.
If McLaren are booted out, they may well deserve it (if they have genuinely benefited by cheating), but it means that this whole season is, in my view, utterly destroyed. Every race, every result rendered totally pointless...
This could also potentially destroy McLaren, not to mention F1 itself.
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http://www.planetf1.com/story/0,18954,3213_2725983,00.html
Coughlan Speaks Up
http://www.planetf1.com/story/0,18954,3213_2726014,00.html
And apologises to all
Coughlan Speaks Up
http://www.planetf1.com/story/0,18954,3213_2726014,00.html
And apologises to all
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italiaracing.net reports that McLaren loose all team points from 2007, are prevented from scoring points in 2008, but that the drivers points are not affected.
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Well I can't see any reason why they would be banned too. I'm sure they'd find another team.
The FIA (who have more Ferrari reps than anyone else)
I'm going to be super harsh and call them the Ferrari Intenatinoal d'Automobile.
Such a shame, it was a good season, but back to Ferrari dominating for years on end now. They could've found a way around it, imo.
I get the feeling that all reads as super harsh, but it doesn't benefit the real people of F1, the Fans, we make the sport. Without us the sport doesn't exist.
The FIA (who have more Ferrari reps than anyone else)
From Jackie Stewart. I'm appalled tbh, they've shot themselves in the foot, and of course Ferrari get their way as usual, if McLaren have cheated then fine, but what about the times Ferrari have had illegal car parts?
I'm going to be super harsh and call them the Ferrari Intenatinoal d'Automobile.
Such a shame, it was a good season, but back to Ferrari dominating for years on end now. They could've found a way around it, imo.
I get the feeling that all reads as super harsh, but it doesn't benefit the real people of F1, the Fans, we make the sport. Without us the sport doesn't exist.
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I just heard on my local news Its only a £100 Million fine
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BBC has confirmed that McLaren will lose all constructor points in 2007, but the drivers will not be effected. McLaren will also receive a fine of $100 million.
I'm shell shocked! Poor Ron Dennis, last year he didn't win any races and now when he won alot of them he's disqualified. He just isn't lucky at all.
I'm shell shocked! Poor Ron Dennis, last year he didn't win any races and now when he won alot of them he's disqualified. He just isn't lucky at all.
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Ah and Alll constructors points aswell.
Million $? Whats that in £?
Million $? Whats that in £?
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If McLaren are stripped of all Constructor's points, it won't be all bad... Firstly, we don't have to hear any more of the appeal over Constructor's points in Hungray, and secondly, both drivers surely must now be free to race each other to the flag in all the races remaining this season. No more races like Monaco - "We ordered Hamilton not to attack Alonso for the good of the Constructor's championship".
$100 million = £49.2 million.
$100 million = £49.2 million.
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Well, I'm sorry for Ron too, but to be perfectly frank, who cares about the bloody constructor's championship anyway? Really, who cares about it?
Ferrari have had their say and have pushed as far as they can to win the title by default - so I hope they shut up now and stop whining. Let the drivers do the talking now - PLEASE!
£49.2 million, apparently...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/6991147.stm
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It could've been worse, some might say McLaren were lucky.
It does raise some more points though.
1) So McLaren did use Ferrari info on their car?
2) For how long and have they got to change any thing?
3) Could someone like Ron Dennis resign over this?
It does raise some more points though.
1) So McLaren did use Ferrari info on their car?
2) For how long and have they got to change any thing?
3) Could someone like Ron Dennis resign over this?
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I thought the majority of the case was that they had the documents, rather than they used them in there design.
Thanks TM for the amount in £'s.
Whats £49.2M to Mclaren though?
Thanks TM for the amount in £'s.
Whats £49.2M to Mclaren though?
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still doesn't seem to be over for McMerc
http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=40651
The FIA World Motor Sport Council has disqualified McLaren from the 2007 constructors' championship and imposed the largest fine in motorsport history – but Lewis Hamilton and Fernando Alonso can continue to vie for the drivers' crown.
After nine hours of deliberations at the hearing in Paris, the 26-member World Council panel decided to punish the Woking-based team for breaking the sporting regulations by possessing confidential Ferrari data.
But while the decision to exclude McLaren from the constructors' contest hands that title to Ferrari, McLaren's drivers have escaped a penalty.
Hamilton and Alonso's battle for the world championship will therefore continue unaffected in the remaining four rounds.
“The WMSC has stripped Vodafone McLaren Mercedes of all constructor points in the 2007 FIA Formula One World Championship and the team can score no points for the remainder of the season," the FIA said in a statement.
“Furthermore, the team will pay a fine equal to $100m, less the FOM income lost as a result of the points deduction.
“However, due to the exceptional circumstances in which the FIA gave the team’s drivers an immunity in return for providing evidence, there is no penalty in regard to drivers’ points."
McLaren will also have to present its 2008 car for examination by the FIA before the start of next season.
“The WMSC will receive a full technical report on the 2008 McLaren car and will take a decision at its December 2007 meeting as to what sanction, if any, will be imposed on the team for the 2008 season,” read the statement.
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does this mean that they could deduct point from McMerc before the '08 season starts? and make them start like with a negative number of points or something?
http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=40651
The FIA World Motor Sport Council has disqualified McLaren from the 2007 constructors' championship and imposed the largest fine in motorsport history – but Lewis Hamilton and Fernando Alonso can continue to vie for the drivers' crown.
After nine hours of deliberations at the hearing in Paris, the 26-member World Council panel decided to punish the Woking-based team for breaking the sporting regulations by possessing confidential Ferrari data.
But while the decision to exclude McLaren from the constructors' contest hands that title to Ferrari, McLaren's drivers have escaped a penalty.
Hamilton and Alonso's battle for the world championship will therefore continue unaffected in the remaining four rounds.
“The WMSC has stripped Vodafone McLaren Mercedes of all constructor points in the 2007 FIA Formula One World Championship and the team can score no points for the remainder of the season," the FIA said in a statement.
“Furthermore, the team will pay a fine equal to $100m, less the FOM income lost as a result of the points deduction.
“However, due to the exceptional circumstances in which the FIA gave the team’s drivers an immunity in return for providing evidence, there is no penalty in regard to drivers’ points."
McLaren will also have to present its 2008 car for examination by the FIA before the start of next season.
“The WMSC will receive a full technical report on the 2008 McLaren car and will take a decision at its December 2007 meeting as to what sanction, if any, will be imposed on the team for the 2008 season,” read the statement.
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does this mean that they could deduct point from McMerc before the '08 season starts? and make them start like with a negative number of points or something?
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Even more confirmation:
http://formula-1.updatesport.com/ne...nes/WCC-points-removed-from-Mclaren/view.html
Phew. That's the lesser of (many) evils... But it's still a very bad thing. It's a bad move for Ferrari, reputation-wise, it's a bad move for F1, fan-wise and it's a bad thing (not move, obviously) for McLaren, for obvious reasons. Am I the only one who sees McLaren stop bothering with updates for the rest of the season, instead focusing on the MP/4-23?
EDIT: The way I get it, BMW(something), it means they'll thoroughly check the car before the season.
On an even better note, Super Aguri just went up a place in the constructors
http://formula-1.updatesport.com/ne...nes/WCC-points-removed-from-Mclaren/view.html
Phew. That's the lesser of (many) evils... But it's still a very bad thing. It's a bad move for Ferrari, reputation-wise, it's a bad move for F1, fan-wise and it's a bad thing (not move, obviously) for McLaren, for obvious reasons. Am I the only one who sees McLaren stop bothering with updates for the rest of the season, instead focusing on the MP/4-23?
EDIT: The way I get it, BMW(something), it means they'll thoroughly check the car before the season.
On an even better note, Super Aguri just went up a place in the constructors
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