McLaren MP4-25 Launch

Very very interesting...

So the exhausts being further back means that the car gets less drag at higher speeds?! - Therefore should be quicker on the straights... especially when following people?!

C.
 
Very very interesting...

So the exhausts being further back means that the car gets less drag at higher speeds?! - Therefore should be quicker on the straights... especially when following people?!

C.

No, the idea works by manipulating the cool and hot air to stall the rear wing, which effectively loses drag and helps top speed.
Following someone else would provide hot(ter) air which wouldn't help this idea as much - drafting works like normal.
This solution is all about running in clean air.

The exhausts are only half the solution.....does anyone even read these articles properly? Yes, moving the exhausts further back has helped cause less drag, but combined with the cooler air being channeled with it. Its not just the exhausts.

Further explanations from James Allen:
James Allen
It is emerging that the cleverest thing about this wing is actually something very simple; the airflow from an opening in the cockpit to the slot in the back of the rear wing, is carried down a pipe in the sharkfin engine cover, but it needs to be “switched on” on the straights. To have any kind of mechanical device would be illegal. The solution? It is controlled by the driver’s body. When he moves his left leg in a certain way, it allows air flow through, which shoots into the slot on the back of the wing and separates the airflow underneath the wing, causing it to shed drag, so the car goes faster down the straight. It’s a bit like the brake steer third pedal McLaren had in 1997, but even more simple.
http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2010/03/bahr...e-could-return/

And to quote Guizotia on Autosport.com:
Guizotia
The opposite idea is that the air flow comes out of the slot at lower speed, along the wing surface. This would help to keep the air flow attached on a wing that is threatening to stall (i.e. steep). The benefit would be that you could run a higher downforce wing that works because of the air blowing from the slot, keeping the air flow attached to the back of the wing, but at high speeds turn off the air flow, allowing the wing to naturally stall.

This idea seems inherently dangerous because if the device fails the car suddenly loses downforce at the times when it is most needed. If this were possible the device would be banned instantly under safety grounds.
 
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Very very interesting...

So the exhausts being further back means that the car gets less drag at higher speeds?! - Therefore should be quicker on the straights... especially when following people?!

C.

No, the idea works by manipulating the cool and hot air to stall the rear wing, which effectively loses drag and helps top speed.
This solution is all about running in clean air.
Yes, moving the exhausts further back has helped cause less drag, but combined with the cooler air being channeled with it. Its not just the exhausts.

Ok, I think I basically understand how it works, I'm no scientist but here goes :nervous:

The exhaust gases are released into a flow of air which is being directed right underneath the rear wing. Because this air is warmer than the air flowing over the top of the wing it travels faster therefor creating more downforce. Drag is also being reduced as a direct result of the faster flowing air from the underside of the wing.

Apparently this is known as a "Bernoulli Turbo Jet Stream"

I did read the link properly earlier but my brain started hurting as I was trying to mentally picture what it was saying. I found this on YouTube as I was trying to find out more about it and it helped me to figure this much out.


Would you agree or have I just confused myself further?
 
Essentially it messes up the fast airflow behind the wing by detaching it. Which means less downforce and drag.

Since they can control it from the cockpit with the drivers leg then it means it's not incredibly dangerous in a high speed corner.
 
It is an excellent advert. While funny, its also enlightening as to the work required behind building and taking an f1 car apart all the time.

I think Hamilton and Jenson perform a very meticulous task indeed. :sick:

I liked this short Mclaren movie from a few years ago before the first Singapore race.

 
Cool video, what I find most intriguing, is who might be there in 10 years looking back at Hamilton's and Button's cars as their Heroes.
 
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