MCU Phase Four

[Famine]

We're already ankles deep in Phase Four and there's plenty of new material to be getting through, but there's no thread for it as a whole yet. So now there is

If you haven't finished Phase Three yet (that's up to and including Spiderman: Far From Home), there are unguarded spoilers below, so watch out.

In chronological order of release then, and TV shows first (click on the images to see the official trailers)...

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WandaVision (TV, Disney+)
Despite dying at the hands of Thanos during Infinity War, Vision finds himself living in a strange TV sitcom world with his wife Wanda and no memories of his previous life.
(January 2021)
Main characters: Wanda Maximoff, Vision
New characters introduced: Agatha Harkness, Monica Rambeau*, Billy & Tommy Maximoff
Returning Characters: Agent James Woo
Thread: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/disneytv-mcu.381824/

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The Falcon and The Winter Soldier (TV, Disney+)
After being handed the Captain America shield by an elderly Steve Rogers in Endgame, Sam Wilson struggles with the concept of picking up the mantle - and a tense partnership with a deprogrammed Winter Soldier looking to make amends.
(March 2021)
Main characters: Sam Wilson/Falcon, James Buchanan "Bucky" Barnes/The Winter Soldier, Baron Helmut Zemo, Sharon Carter
New characters introduced: Sam Wilson/Captain America*, John Walker/US Agent, La Contessa Valentina Allegra de la Fontaine, The Power Broker*
Returning Characters: -
Thread: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/disneytv-mcu.381824/

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Loki (TV, Disney+)
Having broken reality by escaping custody at the Battle of New York with the Tesseract/Space Stone, during an Avengers' attempt to borrow the stone from the past to undo the Thanos Blip, Asgardian Loki comes to the attention of the Time Variance Authority, who press him into service.
(June 2021)
Main characters: Loki Odinson
New characters introduced: Mobius M. Mobius, He Who Remains/Kang the Conqueror, Sylvie Odinsdottir, Ravonna Renslayer
Returning Characters: -
Thread: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/disneytv-mcu.381824/

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What If...? (TV, Disney+)
Animation: The Watcher reveals how things might have turned out had major MCU events been a little different.
(August 2021)
Main characters: Uhh... everyone?
New characters introduced: -
Returning Characters: -
Thread: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/disneytv-mcu.381824/

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Hawkeye (TV, Disney+)
Avenger Clint Barton (Hawkeye) has his nice, quiet family Christmas interrupted by his "Blip" period past as Ronin coming back to haunt him - along with an eager new partner/friend/apprentice/successor.
(November 2021)
Main characters: Clint Barton/Hawkeye, Kate Bishop
New characters introduced: Maya Lopez/Echo, Lucky the Dog
Returning characters: Laura Barton, Wilson Fisk/Kingpin, Yelena Belova/Black Widow
Thread: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/disneytv-mcu.381824/

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Moon Knight (TV, Disney+)
Mild-mannered museum worker Steven Grant wakes up to discover he has an alternate life as the mercenary Marc Spector and a super-powered avatar of the Egyptian god Khonshu, Moon Knight.
(April 2022)
Main characters: Steven Grant/Marc Spector/Moon Knight, Arthur Harrow
New characters introduced: Khonshu, Hathor, Horus, Isis, Osiris, Tawaret, Tefnut, Jake Lockley, Laila El-Faouly/Scarlet Scarab
Returning characters: -
Thread: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/disneytv-mcu.381824/

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Ms. Marvel (TV, Disney+)
A young Captain Marvel fan discovers she also has superpowers, taking on the identity "Ms. Marvel".
(June 2022)
Main characters: Kamala Khan/Ms. Marvel
Characters introduced: -
Returning characters: Carol Danvers/Captain Marvel
Thread: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/disneytv-mcu.381824/

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She-Hulk: Attorney at Law (TV, Disney+)
A single female lawyer specialising in superhero cases gets a blood transfusion from the worst possible donor: her cousin, Bruce Banner/Hulk.
(August 2022)
Main characters: Jennifer Walters/She-Hulk, Bruce Banner/Hulk, Emil Blonsky/Abomination, Wong
Characters introduced: Mary MacPherran/Titania, Frog-Man, Wrecking Crew (Bulldozer, Piledriver, Thunderball, Wrecker)
Returning characters: Matt Murdock/Daredevil
Thread: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/disneytv-mcu.381824/


Incidentally, don't feel duty bound to discuss the individual series and films in this thread alone; we've never done that before. This is just a general Phase Four video/link/discussion/resource thread.

 

[Famine]

Aaaaand the films:

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Black Widow (Movie)
Set in the aftermath of Civil War, and on the run, Natasha Romanov must deal with her past, the Black Widow program, and a new enemy.
(July 2021)
Main characters: Natasha Romanov/Black Widow
New characters introduced: Yelena Belova/Black Widow, Alexei Shostakov/Red Guardian, Antonia Dreykov/Taskmaster
Returning characters: Thaddeus Ross La Contessa Valentina Allegra de la Fontaine
Thread: -

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Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings (Movie)
A trained martial arts prodigy is dragged back into his old life, and his father's criminal organisation
(September 2021)
Main characters: Xu Shang-Chi, Xu Xialing, The Mandarin*
New characters introduced: -
Returning characters: Trevor Slattery/"The Mandarin", Wong, Emil Blonsky/Abomination, Bruce Banner/Hulk, Carol Danvers/Captain Marvel
Thread: -

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Eternals (Movie)
A estranged, ancient group of immortal beings living in secret on Earth come back together to protect humanity.
(November 2021)
Main characters: The Eternals (Ajak, Druig, Gilgamesh, Ikaris, Kingo, Makkari, Sersi, Sprite, Thena), The Deviants
Returning characters: -
New characters introduced: Eric Brooks/Blade, Eros/Starfox, Dane Whitman/Black Knight

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Spider-Man: No Way Home (Movie)
After having his identity exposed by Mysterio, Peter Parker must deal with the fallout - and some unusual enemies.
(December 2021)
Main characters: Peter Parker/Spider-Man, Stephan Strange/Dr. Strange
New characters introduced: Otto Octavius/Doctor Octopus Max Dillon/Electro, Norman Osborn/Green Goblin, Curt Connors/Lizard, Flint Marko/Sandman, Peter Parker/Spider-Man*, Peter Parker/Spider-Man*
Returning characters: Mary "MJ" Jones, Ned Leeds, May Parker, Harold "Happy" Hogan
Thread: -

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Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness (Movie)
(March 2022)
Main characters: Stephan Strange/Dr. Strange, Wanda Maximoff/Scarlet Witch, Wong
New characters introduced: America Chavez Karl Mordo, Professor Charles Xavier, Reed Richards/Mr Fantastic, Margaret "Peggy" Carter/Captain Britain, Maria Rambeau/Captain Marvel
Returning characters: Christine Palmer Black Bolt
Thread: -

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Thor: Love and Thunder (Movie)
(May 2022)
Main characters: Thor Odinson, Valkyrie, Jane Foster/Mighty Thor
New characters introduced: Gorr The God Butcher, Zeus
Returning characters: Peter Quill/Star Lord, Nebula, Rocket Raccoon, Drax, Groot, Mantis, Grandmaster
Thread: -

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Black Panther: Wakanda Forever (Movie)
(July 2022)
Main characters: TBA
New characters introduced: TBA
Returning characters: TBA
Thread: -

 

[Famine]

Oh, I forgot the point of me posting this was so I'd have somewhere relevant for this video (also in the post above):



It reveals all the Phase Four movies, including a very subtle (not) nod to Fantastic Four at the end, hence the TBC!

 

[05XR8]

Another Loki announcement

 

[DQuaN]

If you haven't finished Phase Three yet (that's up to and including Spiderman: Homecoming),

Homecoming or Far From Home?

 

[Famine]

Homecoming or Far From Home?

The Mysterio one, I forget which it is. Spoderman 2: Spode Harder.

Here's an irony: I haven't seen it

 

[DQuaN]

The Mysterio one, I forget which it is. Spoderman 2: Spode Harder.

Here's an irony: I haven't seen it

The funny thing is, being English, Tom Holland is actually Far From Home in the first movie but comes Home in the second.

 

[LeGeNd-1]

Lots of new characters and no Avengers movie team up, interesting. As someone who doesn't follow the TV shows, I just hope there's not too much critical backstory and I can still follow the plot in the main movies

Wonder who they will cast to replace Chadwick? Also isn't X-Men supposed to be joining MCU, or has that been cancelled again?

 

[05XR8]

Michael B Jordan said he'll be in BP II. He's also looking to be in the BP TV series. Could see him as Black Panther. We'll have to wait and see.

The comics bring characters back from the dead. Would be easy to explain Kilmonger's resurface.

 

[Famine]

Wonder who they will cast to replace Chadwick?

Nobody. Somebody else will doubtless become Black Panther (please be Winston Duke/M'Baku!), but T'Challa won't be recast.

 

[Famine]

More Loki teaser clips:





And a Black Widow one:

 

[andrea]

 

[MIE1992]

Aren't the Eternals basically like the Fate franchise? Not that I'm into Fate, but the concept seems vaguely similar. Also, for being named with a spider motif, why don't Black Widow and Spider-Man team up? And why is there no character called Brown Recluse, or maybe The Salticid?

 

[ImaRobot]

And why is there no character called Brown Recluse, or maybe The Salticid?

I'm looking forward to the announcement of Daddy Long-Legs

 

[MIE1992]

I'm looking forward to the announcement of Daddy Long-Legs

I like the idea of naming a character "The Harvestman" a bit more.

 

[UKMikey]

Not sure whether this is the Black Widow thread but NATO (not that NATO, the cinema bosses' union) aren't happy about being deprived of some of the profit from her movie via Disney+ premier access.

Theater Owners Blast Disney for Making ‘Black Widow’ Available Immediately on Streaming

The National Association of Theatre Owners says the decision is responsible for the superhero pic's "stunning collapse in its second weekend" at the box office.

www.hollywoodreporter.com

I have news for them... I wasn't going back to the theatre to watch it anyway. Having supported MCU phases I, II and III almost exclusively via cinema releases I'm happier staying in and staying safe. Let's see how Shang-Chi does.

 

[Famine]

If you can't be bothered with Black Widow, or can't access Loki, here's Screen Rant's Pitch Meetings for the two (the Loki one will go live in about 2.5hr).

Spoiler alerts, obvs:





(Pitch Meeting is now on Tuesday rather than Sunday, if anyone cares)

 

[05XR8]

 

[andrea]

 

[Famine]

So... Eternals. It's already had its red carpet premiere, but won't land in actual cinemas until this week.

However, it has already broken an 8-year old record for an MCU film. It is now - and by far - the lowest-rated MCU film on Rotten Tomatoes, currently ranking at 60% and beating the low mark of 66% for Thor The Dark World. It's about even on Metacritic, with Thor 2 at 54% and Eternals at 55%.

Potted summary seems to be it's too long (157 minutes), the characters aren't very interesting and are played pretty wooden, the CGI is pants, there's no humour, and there's basically no connection to the MCU itself apart from people occasionally mentioning Iron Man or Captain America.

Can't wait for the Pitch Meeting, which will inevitably land on November 9th.

 

[05XR8]

Hope it's not what we've seen with directors that don't know anything about the comics, characters or movies. As they just want to do their own take about the characters.

 

[Famine]

Can't wait for the Pitch Meeting, which will inevitably land on November 9th.

 

[UKMikey]

TikTok - Make Your Day

 

[GTboyz]

Just saw NWH yesterday. Keep your expectations low. Stay off social media.

 

[UKMikey]

Just saw NWH yesterday. Keep your expectations low. Stay off social media.

Appreciated. I intend to do just that with regards to this movie.

 

[GTboyz]

Appreciated. I intend to do just that with regards to this movie.

Just to be clear, I only say keep your expectations low because if you expect disappointment then you won't be disappointed.

 

[UKMikey]

Just to be clear, I only say keep your expectations low because if you expect disappointment then you won't be disappointed.

I'm not expecting a horrible movie but I'm not expecting the earth either.

 

[05XR8]

Just saw it. Hmm…

 

[andrea]

 

[UKMikey]