Memory Card Issue....

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As many of you may have noticed the PS3 doesnt have any memory card slots (by which I mean the playstation magic gate black square thingy's).... which raises the question.......How are gamers with PS2 saves going to play their games on a PS3? The PS3 is backwards compatable but there is no point if you can't get your saves off your exsisting memory cards......

This was brought up by Gamespot in an arcticle they wrote whist interviewing Sony's Chief Technical Officer......

"The PS3 comes with six USB slots, three times more than the PS2. The machine also comes with a Memory Stick slot, a compact flash slot, and an SD card slot for additional external media. However, the PS3 does not have a Memory Card slot, despite its backward compatibility with the PS2, raising the question of how players will transfer game saves"

Although this question didnt seem to be asked to the technical officer, what do you think?...........how or earth is it going to be done, by some adaptor, PC software?.......or maybe you will just have to start San Andreas again!

Any thoughts?

Robin
 
Hey, apparently it will be SD cards, im sure you will be able to use them as memory cards, what about the old controllers? do you think you will be able to get a usb connector to use the ds2's? cos i'd say they will be asking for around £30 for one controller!!!
 
barryl85
Hey, apparently it will be SD cards, im sure you will be able to use them as memory cards, what about the old controllers? do you think you will be able to get a usb connector to use the ds2's? cos i'd say they will be asking for around £30 for one controller!!!
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Yes, all the new 'cards' can be used as memory cards........but how are you going to get your old saves on to them?.....
 
I think the memory sticks are going to replace the traditional memory cards. Memory sticks are used in most Sony products including the PSP. I hope PS3 will use memory sticks. I have a Cybershot digital camera by Sony and it uses memory sticks so you would find many uses for it. Imagine a whole gigabyte of data on the stick.
 
barryl85
any chance you seen how it was connected?
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i tried to sneak behind the screen to see how it was connected, but i failed because it was so well covered :D If you watch the Sony conferrence at E3 again, you'll see a white, blurry, deadly shadow (which is me) flying pass :ill:
 
So there's not going to be a hard drive for the PS3 (I'm sorry. Haven't read up on PS3 tidbits recently)?
 
They still don't know about the hard drives.. ignore the Xbots who will tell you that Sony "officially" announced no hard drive.. they're lying.

As for the memory cards, that's a very good question.

This isn't about the new cards, folks.. we know the PS3 will use either the hard drive or SD/Flash memory cards of some kind for game saves. What we're trying to figure out is how to load up our OLD game saves from our PS2 memory cards. Or are we all going to have to start every PS2 game from scratch when we get our PS3's?
 
JohnBM01
So there's not going to be a hard drive for the PS3 (I'm sorry. Haven't read up on PS3 tidbits recently)?
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There was an interview recently with Impress PC Watch and Ken Kuturagi.

"Ken Kutaragi: We're not going to equip [the PS3 with] an HDD by default, because no matter how much [capacity] we put in it, it won't be enough."

then later he says

"This time, we're positioning the PS3 as a "supercomputer." But people won't recognize it as a computer unless we call it a computer, so we're going to run an OS on it. In order to run the OSes, we need an HDD. So in order to declare that the PS3 is a computer, I think we'll have [the PS3's HDD] preinstalled with Linux as a bonus."

My guess maybe there will be two versions of the PS3 one without the HDD/Linux and one with HDD/Linux. I know which one I'll be buying if that's how it turns out! Linux! :)

full version http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/06/09/news_6127219.html
 
If I may offer my "interpretation" of what Kenny said:

I think he's explaining the reasons why they didn't install a permanent hard drive like MS did with the first Xbox. Because even a "big" hard drive now will be small by the time the system is old. That's why they went with the removable route.

My guess is that the system will come with a small hard drive. And later, as the online service grows, downloadable content, whatever, they'll offer larger hard drives for the "hardcore" gamers to upgrade to, keeping up with the times. Everyone else can just stick to the smaller one.

I also imagine the OS will probably come on a disc, that can be installed on the hard drive at the customer's whim, if they need whatever features the OS provides.
 
:rubs magic sphere:

The PS3 HDD will become the new memory card. Saved games will be stored on the drive and then the user can transfer them to any of the supported flash memory types and take them along to a friends house or arcade. Maybe you could even transfer you saved games over the Internet to your friend's PS3 before you leave and they'll be waiting for you when you arrive.

Microsoft explained that you would be able to detach the Xbox 360 HDD and take it along with you. I don't know about you, but I doubt lugging around a 2.5 inch HDD, no matter how small, is a good idea.
 
STiGoFLyBy
I think the memory sticks are going to replace the traditional memory cards. Memory sticks are used in most Sony products including the PSP. I hope PS3 will use memory sticks. I have a Cybershot digital camera by Sony and it uses memory sticks so you would find many uses for it. Imagine a whole gigabyte of data on the stick.
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The PSP uses Memory Stick Duo and Memory Stick Pro Duo which is a much smaller version of the Memory Stick and can only be used in a Memory Stick slot if you buy the MS-to-MSD Adapter.

And in response to "HOw will we get our PS2 game saves back":

Most likely if we use flash cards for mem. cards now,Sony will release an adapter that makes your memory card fit into USB slots,thus allowing you to load game saves from it.
 
29.99 pounds? That's about... what, 50 or so dollars? If so, buying the PS3 hard drive will be like buying another game. Of course, I hope (or probably know) games won't be seriously expensive.

Some good points were mentioned in saying that if someone makes a hard drive for the PS3, it will have only enough space. But when later games come out, it is likely that if you don't have big enough memory to go around with it, you're not going to house all that memory. Think of games like almost any EA Sports game. The most recent one I bought was "NCAA March Madness 2005." The game requires 7.751 MB off of your 8 MB Memory Card! So, it's likely that with more games coming, you know more games will want to test the limits of a console. So, it will be pretty tough to know how much memory is actually sufficient enough for maybe, the first two or three years of the console. Taking PS3 hard drives around seems pretty cool, but only if you don't think arcades are dead. I really don't take around video game hardware, so you probably won't see me toting these around playing games a lot at arcade places and all. Last time I seen people carry around video game hardware was when I went to an arcade place and seen one boy play Tekken 5 with a DualShock 2.

This should all be okay, though. It doesn't seem too bad. Anything to keep the price of the PS3 down, while not tearing a hole in your wallet or your parents' wallets.
 
code_kev
The adapt will be at the all low price of £29.99...

The obvious thing to do would be to have a single PS2 memory card slot.
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Yeah, I wondered why that wasn't the first thing SONY would do???.......They probably are going to screw every peeny out of their customers.......I shouldn't have to buy and adapter (probably at great cost) just to load up my old PS2 saves.....thats really annoying......

As for new saves their is no doubt it will be on HDD or the SD,MS,CF etc storage methods.....

Oh and yes I saw that SONY during the tech demo were using a DS2....plugged into something well consealed below the table!.....which raises another question of DS2 compatability.......
 
What exactly is the need for DS2 compatibility? The DS3 has all the same buttons, the same layout, everything.

How many of you unplug your DS2 and use the old DS1 or standard PS1 controller when playing a PS1 game? Probably no one.. I just use the DS2. The DS3 will be no different.

It'll also make it a PITA.. I'm looking forward to keeping my PS3 tucked away under or beside my entertainment center, because of the wireless controllers. If I have to hook up a DS2, that means I have to drag the thing out to the middle of the living room, with wires running every which way for people to trip on. I can't even count the number of times a controller has been ripped out of the thing while I'm playing, when my reciever gets pulled on and shifted around, all because someone accidentally tripped on a cable. Once, I had my PS2 in vertical position, and the damn thing fell over on a hardwood floor.

I, for one, will be GLAD to be rid of that obstruction forever.
 
There are no memory card slots under the front flip. Theres memory stick slots and USB slots.
 
Jedi2016
Once, I had my PS2 in vertical position, and the damn thing fell over on a hardwood floor.
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:lol: That can't have been good.......dont you have the vertical stand?

As for the memory card issues I think people are getting confused......some people are saying memory card slots as in SD,MS etc etc and some mean the playstation memory cards........

If you mean normal different media slots say so.....eitherwise people will think you are talking about the playstation ones.......

German Muscle
does anyone have a pic of the PS3 with the front flipped up showing the memory card slots?
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I suspect you ment the SD, MS slots right?........no one has seen the front lip opened so no......
 
Actually there is a pic around somewhere with it open, at least I've seen one either online or in a magazine, it's just extra USB slots and multimedia interfaces, no memory card (as in PS1 and 2 cards) slots though.
 
Jedi2016
What exactly is the need for DS2 compatibility? The DS3 has all the same buttons, the same layout, everything.

How many of you unplug your DS2 and use the old DS1 or standard PS1 controller when playing a PS1 game? Probably no one.. I just use the DS2. The DS3 will be no different.

It'll also make it a PITA.. I'm looking forward to keeping my PS3 tucked away under or beside my entertainment center, because of the wireless controllers. If I have to hook up a DS2, that means I have to drag the thing out to the middle of the living room, with wires running every which way for people to trip on. I can't even count the number of times a controller has been ripped out of the thing while I'm playing, when my reciever gets pulled on and shifted around, all because someone accidentally tripped on a cable. Once, I had my PS2 in vertical position, and the damn thing fell over on a hardwood floor.

I, for one, will be GLAD to be rid of that obstruction forever.
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The reason being is that i want to be able to play some good multi player games straight away with my mates on the ps3 - i have three ds2's and i aint goin out to buy 3 or 4 ds3 pads at £30 a peice - when i first got my ps2 i used my ds1 until i bought another ds2 as me and my bro were playing fifa 2001 at the time dont see the difference in a game like fifa not having pressure sensitive buttons, to be honest that is the only difference
 
German Muscle
does anyone have a pic of the PS3 with the front flipped up showing the memory card slots?
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Only man with the point here - sliding doors are probably the key of annswer.

I have not seen any picture of "PS3 prototype" with front "door" flipped up - because all the consoles on E3 were just cases. As the tech-data of future PS3's hadrware is witnessing, there should be different slots for flash-memory-units on the console - probaly under under that sliding "door", if design resembles close-2-final-look of the console.

However, as the sliding "doors" are pretty wide, there is strong posibility of 2 MC and even 2 DS slots, together with all those flash-mem slots.

As Sony's bussines-to-consumer policy in last 2 generations shows, we can pretty much be sure that PS3 will support both PSone and PS2 MC's and all 3 generations of old controllers.
 
Sony have already said whats under that, it's no DS2 or memory card ports. Theres a slot or two for Sony's memory stick and a couple of other slots for something else, but they wern't anything like pad or mem card ports. That said, I did read today that things like multitaps for PS2 would work on the PS3, but they only slot intothe memory card and pad slots don't they? So that leads me to believe that there will be an adapter of some kind. I also noticed that you can use one PS3 to connect to 2 TV's or HDTV's to be more specific. This could be used for a number of things, forget usings two PS3's to play multiplayer on two TV's as before, the PS3 is powerful enough to renderboth screens seperately, so you can put 2 TV's together for superwidescreen, or you can set upsome games soone screen has the HUD and a map of the level and the other screen is the gamebeing playedwhere you control the main guy or whatever. Theres a load of possibilities that sound cool, but theresa problem, I'm not getting 2 HDTV's anytime soon, it's enough paying for one.
 

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