Methods to reduce the PP of cars.

[Prototyp3]

I was wondering if there are any other methods to reduce a cars PP beyond the engine limiter and add weight through the use of ballasts.

Those were the only 2 methods that I can find. Are there other ways to reduce a cars PP?

 

[Jahgee]

Lowering the Torque or Downforce

 

[HanibalII]

run it till it has dirty oil.

 

[KiroKai]

While we're at this topic, is there any 'efficient' way of tuning a car? Like, do engine stages boost PP more with less power than if I get various other little power parts? Or the other way around?

Never really bothered tuning for a certain PP so I'm pretty clueless on that.

 

[Aquarelle]

Put a banana in the exhaust.

Or run it until the oil is filthy 👍

 

[Tornado]

While we're at this topic, is there any 'efficient' way of tuning a car? Like, do engine stages boost PP more with less power than if I get various other little power parts? Or the other way around.

That depends on the car. Engine tuning does different things to different cars.

 

[Adrenaline]

While we're at this topic, is there any 'efficient' way of tuning a car? Like, do engine stages boost PP more with less power than if I get various other little power parts? Or the other way around?

Never really bothered tuning for a certain PP so I'm pretty clueless on that.

PP is a calculation based on the total area under the tq/hp curves, so mods that add more 'top end' than 'low end' tend to be more PP efficient. I recall a thread on it in the tuning forum if you do some digging/searching, as it was months ago now.

 

[Prototyp3]

Lowering the Torque or Downforce

Is there a separate option to control the torque other than the engine limiter?

For the downforce, I guess the car would need aero parts installed or already have a wing of some sort? I don't have that option on the McLaren F1...


Which is the reason I brought this up is because I'm trying to get my McLaren F1 down to 500 PP for an event.

With the engine limiter and max weight ballast I can lower it to 517PP. I just need a way to lose 17 more PP.

run it till it has dirty oil.

I'll check my oil, but pretty sure it must be somewhat dirty, I've done at least 4 or 5, 5 lap races since the last change.

EDIT: Damn, oil still looking pretty decent. I'll drive it a bit and hope that cuts off the last 17PP.

 

[HanibalII]

Is there a separate option to control the torque other than the engine limiter?

For the downforce, I guess the car would need aero parts installed or already have a wing of some sort? I don't have that option on the McLaren F1...


Which is the reason I brought this up is because I'm trying to get my McLaren F1 down to 500 PP for an event.

With the engine limiter and max weight ballast I can lower it to 517PP. I just need a way to lose 17 more PP.


I'll check my oil, but pretty sure it must be somewhat dirty, I've done at least 4 or 5, 5 lap races since the last change.

EDIT: Damn, oil still looking pretty decent. I'll drive it a bit and hope that cuts off the last 17PP.

Don't think it will cut that much off. Not in a few more laps. You'll need a few more dozen.

 

[Prototyp3]

Don't think it will cut that much off. Not in a few more laps. You'll need a few more dozen.

on it

 

[Rit]

If you want that oil light to come on you'll need to put ~5000km on the car after the last oil change.That's when dirty oil really comes into play as your hp really starts to drop off and you'll need to keep bumping it back up to max out the pp levels.Dirty oil can give you an extra 10+hp or more depending on the car and pp levels...That's why dirty oil cars are so popular in the Time Trials.If a 2J is involved you can bet the winner will be strapped in a dirty oil car..👍

 

[NjLowrider]

Take off exhaust or racing air filter.


Also u get more power removing parts to get a certain pp then using the limiter most of the time

 

[Prototyp3]

If you want that oil light to come on you'll need to put ~5000km on the car after the last oil change.That's when dirty oil really comes into play as your hp really starts to drop off and you'll need to keep bumping it back up to max out the pp levels.Dirty oil can give you an extra 10+hp or more depending on the car and pp levels...That's why dirty oil cars are so popular in the Time Trials.If a 2J is involved you can bet the winner will be strapped in a dirty oil car..👍

Damn, I had no idea. I drove about 40~ laps last night and the oil finally showed up as dirty (black) in the GTAutoTune but I only dropped from 617PP to 611PP.

Taking longer then I expected. But thanks for the estimated mileage, 5K I have a way to go.

Take off exhaust or racing air filter.


Also u get more power removing parts to get a certain pp then using the limiter most of the time

The car is stock and there is really nothing I can take off it. I'm trying to lower a Stock Mclaren F1 to 500PP.

 

[Polsixe]

I haven't seen a way to reduce torque other than removing engine mods you've already put on. No way to change stock except add up to 200 kg and power limit to 50%. There has tp be some limits otherwise the 2J would be at every PP level.

 

[seanneedscar]

NA engine stage 1-2-3 bump up the torque hardcore and are irreversible

So best bet is to get a duplicate of the car without those mods done

 

[Johnnypenso]

Damn, I had no idea. I drove about 40~ laps last night and the oil finally showed up as dirty (black) in the GTAutoTune but I only dropped from 617PP to 611PP.

Taking longer then I expected. But thanks for the estimated mileage, 5K I have a way to go.



The car is stock and there is really nothing I can take off it. I'm trying to lower a Stock Mclaren F1 to 500PP.

You don't have to drive the car, you can just put it in a BSpec Enduro and get the same result.

 

[Prototyp3]

You don't have to drive the car, you can just put it in a BSpec Enduro and get the same result.

Smart Man! Can't believe I didn't think of this. May just leave it on tonight after I go to sleep ^^

 

[XDesperado67]

Smart Man! Can't believe I didn't think of this. May just leave it on tonight after I go to sleep ^^

If your really serious about lowering the PP of a car, even dirty oil may not be enough. What you'll need to do is put your Bob's to work running repeated endurance races to really rack up the mileage.
After about 10,000 miles the car starts to permanently lose power that not even an engine rebuild will be able to recover. So the most hard core TT types will have cars that may have 100,000+ miles on their cars to get it as worn out as possible for the lowest PP.

 

[Prototyp3]

If your really serious about lowering the PP of a car, even dirty oil may not be enough. What you'll need to do is put your Bob's to work running repeated endurance races to really rack up the mileage.
After about 10,000 miles the car starts to permanently lose power that not even an engine rebuild will be able to recover. So the most hard core TT types will have cars that may have 100,000+ miles on their cars to get it as worn out as possible for the lowest PP.

Wow, I didn't know that mileage would have effects like that. Just thought it was there to show you how long you've been driving your car/spent time with it. That's pretty cool.

 

[watermelon punch]

While we're at this topic, is there any 'efficient' way of tuning a car? Like, do engine stages boost PP more with less power than if I get various other little power parts? Or the other way around?

It tells you how much PP is going to be gained by each part. I've never noticed those values to change depending on other parts upgraded.

 

[snowgt]

It tells you how much PP is going to be gained by each part. I've never noticed those values to change depending on other parts upgraded.

Without actually having tried this in detail, from my experience, I think that every engine upgrade works like a power multiplication factor. So, if you apply all parts, the factors are all applied and add up to the same maximum power. But when you apply a part as the first part, it will nominally boost power less than when you apply it last.