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They let go of Caviezel? Again!?
I feel for everyone affected by these, quite frankly, dumbass decisions
I feel for everyone affected by these, quite frankly, dumbass decisions
With Featured Multiplayer getting a recent update that put some very long term rotations in, I feel this might be the end.Looking at LinkedIn many people associated with Cars, Tracks, Live Service and Community Management have been let go. So it will pretty surely be the End of Life of the game...
Sucks. MS did give them like 5 years for the new FM and it flopped. That was also after a run of FM5-7 that were all just average at best and had issues. I still loved the more western car lineups that actually had racing cars.
They’ll hang around as a support studio for their engine that’s in Horizon and Fable and probably make some content for FM. Will probably not see another one though.
Flight Simulator runs on Asobo's inhouse engine, nothing to do with Turn10.FM 2023 was supposed to have a long (5? year) lifespan, so they probably haven't even started a successor yet.
I assume the game engine core team remains to support Flight Simulator and PG (Horizon, maybe Fable), and a skeleton team to do some regular updates to FM2023, but indeed any thought of a successor to FM2023 is indefinitely postponed.
If that’s the case, I’m done with Forza.Looking at LinkedIn many people associated with Cars, Tracks, Live Service and Community Management have been let go. So it will pretty surely be the End of Life of the game...
Not the devs fault. If T10 were wholly given 5 years the state of this game would be very different. It’s well-known that this game’s staff were contracted for 18 month periods (with a 6 month wait before they can accept another contract) and senior devs were outed.Sucks. MS did give them like 5 years for the new FM and it flopped.
Horrible news today, even though we were warned with the rumours last week, you always hope the final result won't be as bad, but sadly it looks like the rumours were spot on. I feel sorry for all the people let go and hope they find good alternative employment elsewhere.This, right here, is what gives me just a little bit of hope. I don't want to believe that this is the end, but things are looking a bit bleak at the moment 😬
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The game was such a "hard flop", they waited 2 years to start the layoffs after launching a recent year of successful updates.As for the layoffs I told you guys it was gonna happen after the game flopped hard, but yall were in denial. Maybe not full closure yet but the studio got crippled hard.
In amongst the crappy news, this really surprised me the most for some reason.They let go of Caviezel? Again!?
I feel for everyone affected by these, quite frankly, dumbass decisions
It is possible that the "environment" work is already relatively near to completion on FH6. Assuming it is coming in 2026 the map itself could be well advanced at this point. With regards the car people, I think some/a lot of the work on cars is subcontracted from what I've read before - maybe that's what their planning for FH6, minimal in house staff and rely on.I would not hold my breath that Horizon is safe either, on LinkedIn in Looks Like many of the Environment and car people from PG have been let go, too
Yup. I had a few criticisms in my review - mainly consistency of quality and some bad choices and oversights - and they've done quite a bit of work to undo some of the choices they insisted were what was good for the game even if the fans mightn't like it. Don't really recall playing it since as it's never really called back to me; I wanted it to be better than it was.Was Forza ever really any good?
Again, Panic Button ported FH5 to PS5 with T10/PG's input (as it did with FH4's Xbox Series port; Sumo did the Steam version). If this strategy is the approach for FM23 as well then even ripped in half it's still something T10 can support.If anyone had even the slightest hope (However missplaced I felt it was) that Motorsport was coming to the PS5, I don't see any of it being left now with this.
Even then, I feel like that's a BIG "If" because that's assuming Microsoft even sees FM23 (or even the franchise itself) remotely salvageable despite it not doing the numbers they seem to demand on release and haven't already decided that Horizon is the way Forza goes forward in a multi-platform future. The studio that made Gravity Rush, a VERY successful game sales wise, still ended up on the chopping block until someone swooped in and got them. If even a successful game doesn't guarantee staying around, I'm not feeling too great about Forza Motorsport's chances.Again, Panic Button ported FH5 to PS5 with T10/PG's input (as it did with FH4's Xbox Series port; Sumo did the Steam version). If this strategy is the approach for FM23 as well then even ripped in half it's still something T10 can support.
Didn't Microsoft get a new CEO within the past 2 years?I can't understand what Microsoft has been thinking this entire generation to be honest, they have bought or partnered with every studio and publisher they could get their hands on, they then proceeded mishandle everything and instead of letting studios go independent they just closed them up. I feel sorry for the devs that got laid off, but this industry needs a big reset, for both professionals and consumers.
Phil Spencer is probably who you're thinking of. He became CEO when they acquired Activison in 2022. He's had a heavy hand in Xbox's decision making for the last decade though, reporting directly to Satya.Didn't Microsoft get a new CEO within the past 2 years?
What do you mean "dumbass decisions"? Corporations are flawless and the absolute peak of efficiency! They could never make wrong decisions, look, the funny numbers are going up!They let go of Caviezel? Again!?
I feel for everyone affected by these, quite frankly, dumbass decisions
My man, you are actively denying the fact that Turn 10 were not the only victims of Xbox layoffs yesterday. First and foremost, there were cuts within a multitude of studios, including Halo Studios, Rare Entertainment, Raven Software and others. Hell, they even shut down The Initiative, cancelling the new Perfect Dark game in conjunction, and cut staff at King Division, the developers behind the proverbial Money Printer that is Candy Crush. You're purposely ignoring the broader context of what's going on here.He's in denial that this is the end for motorsport and turn10 as it was.
There's no denying that the current outlook isn't the greatest, but flying away with large, currently unsubstantiated claims in an effort to elevate oneself does not accomplish anything meaningful, nor is it actually helpful....being relegated to supporting role...