[Mod] Gran Turismo 2 plus (bug fixes, restored content and new content) - beta 7 released

[Ominous77]

See below comment.

 

[Ominous77]

The used car lists are not changed in any major way, but bear in mind that in GT2 they're different for each game region, so check that the guide you're looking at is for the same version that you're playing.

The minor changes made to the used car lists are things like replacing certain removed colours for cars (e.g. all red R31 Skyline GTS-Rs become blue), adding in the R33 Skyline GTS25, and handling the region-specific cars that are now available everywhere, for example having both the S14 Silvia and 200SX available, or the Z32 Fairlady Z and 300ZX. The region-specific stuff in particular gets a bit complicated, the Toyota 2000GT had two identical versions with both listed in the used car lists but only one showing up per region, so it may show up in slightly different places in the US version now as it's unified to use the JP / PAL version of the car. Generally though the goal is that no cars are removed, they just may be in a different colour.

Hi!

I see, I forgot to mention the region I'm playing is the NTSC-U 1.2.

I reckon that the wiki, as far as I can see, doesn't specify that much the region it's been presented. However, when I checked the other one, the one in airsoft, it's still presenting some differences (models, not talking about the colors).

Anyways, I'll see how the differences pan out with the passing cycles. Hopefully more people check and chime in with their findings.

Thanks!

 

[pez2k]

However, when I checked the other one, the one in airsoft, it's still presenting some differences (models, not talking about the colors).

Anyways, I'll see how the differences pan out with the passing cycles. Hopefully more people check and chime in with their findings.

If you spot any specific differences, just let me know and I can check if they're intentional or not. The used car list is particularly complicated to maintain since there's so much data in it.

 

[Ominous77]

If you spot any specific differences, just let me know and I can check if they're intentional or not. The used car list is particularly complicated to maintain since there's so much data in it.

Of course, will do!

I wanted to ask you one more thing if you don't mind, did you post somewhere the complete car list with the adjustments made by your mod? Because I was planning on creating one myself, using the original one as a base, but I wanted to check if it had been done already so I didn't do the job in vain.

Thanks!

 

[pez2k]

I wanted to ask you one more thing if you don't mind, did you post somewhere the complete car list with the adjustments made by your mod? Because I was planning on creating one myself, using the original one as a base, but I wanted to check if it had been done already so I didn't do the job in vain.

I haven't, no - it's generally just the original car list with the additions in the change log, however a lot of the Japanese car names are corrected too. If you want a head start, the .carinfo files in GT2.VOL contain a list of all of the car names, and can be converted to readable text with GT2CarInfoEditorCSV.

 

[Ominous77]

I haven't, no - it's generally just the original car list with the additions in the change log, however a lot of the Japanese car names are corrected too. If you want a head start, the .carinfo files in GT2.VOL contain a list of all of the car names, and can be converted to readable text with GT2CarInfoEditorCSV.

That's awesome! I'll see if I can do that and I'll post the list here.

Thanks!

 

[Calhoun]

Good evening! I believe I may have found some kind of bug in the Super Touring Trophy event rewards. I noticed that the chances of winning a prize car are listed as 33%, but across multiple attempts in the five races, I only ever receive the TRD3000GT, no other cars appear as rewards. Could you check if this is indeed a flaw in the mod? I appreciate it!

 

[The Real Emil]

There is no flaw that's just how chance works sometimes.

To elaborate a little further, each event in Gran Turismo 2 can have up to 4 prize cars assigned to it and it'll just pick one of those at random if the event has more then one prize car, there wouldn't be a flaw to this system unless every prize car was deleted from the string save the 3000GT which obviously hasn't occurred because I don't think Plus touches prize cars outside of adding some to events that didn't have them originally.

I got all 3 from the event no problem in my playthrough, as I said that's just chance unfortunately.

 

[pez2k]

I noticed that the chances of winning a prize car are listed as 33%, but across multiple attempts in the five races, I only ever receive the TRD3000GT, no other cars appear as rewards. Could you check if this is indeed a flaw in the mod?

As per the post above, yeah, this is just random prizes in action. The mod doesn't touch the prize cars for those events or the randomisation, and the original game can also give out the same car five times in a row (something like a 1 in 250 chance).

It's a big reason why random prize cars aren't good game design, players can completely miss out on prizes and never know about it. However, that's the way Polyphony designed it, so I don't currently plan on changing it, frustrating as it can be.

 

[Sonygamer455]

It's a big reason why random prize cars aren't good game design, players can completely miss out on prizes and never know about it.

You ain't kidding. I can remember as a kid I spent so much time playing through the entire game in hopes of winning the Ford GT-90, only to be floored when I didn't get it despite doing everything I could outside of golding all license tests. At the time, I was completely unaware that it had randomized prize cars, and for a long time, I had no clue how to get that car. It wasn't until some later that I learned it could be earned from an endurance race, which I had already done, and I finally got it. Cool as it may have been to finally have it in my garage, I was not a fan of having to do an endurance race over again just to get it.

 

[submaniac93]

In longer races like enduros or championships, it can get obnoxious trying to win all random prizes, but i think it's fine for shorter races, 3-5 laps. It adds some replayability i feel.

 

[Sonygamer455]

I agree. Randomized prize cars for small races are not too bad as long as they don't keep spamming the same prize cars over and over again, but endurance races? Heck no!

 

[Indigo Mizumi]

I agree. Randomized prize cars for small races are not too bad as long as they don't keep spamming the same prize cars over and over again, but endurance races? Heck no!

The joys of save scumming.

 

[Tornado]

Good evening! I believe I may have found some kind of bug in the Super Touring Trophy event rewards. I noticed that the chances of winning a prize car are listed as 33%, but across multiple attempts in the five races, I only ever receive the TRD3000GT, no other cars appear as rewards. Could you check if this is indeed a flaw in the mod? I appreciate it!

I was playing GT2 in May of 2000. Downloaded a prize car list off GTF and printed it at the library. You better believe that the 33% chance of winning the HKS R33 at Tuned Turbo Cup 2 that seemed like it would be faster to use to grind credits than playing GT All Stars 3 and selling the Speed 12 ended up actually being "Nismo 400R" "Nismo 400R" "Nismo 400R" "Nismo 400R" "Mine's Skyline R33 GT-R" "Nismo 400R" "Mine's Skyline R33 GT-R" "Nismo 400R" "Mine's Skyline R33 GT-R" "Nissan R33 Drag GT-R" on more than one occasion.