More Than 50 Classic Cars Revealed For Forza Motorsport 7

Famine
I'm afraid I don't have an XBL account. Can I borrow your login details to try it?

I mean, if the car raced with it - or the flag of Imperial Japan, or tobacco/alcohol advertising, or an advert for a genital mutiliation clinic - it would seem a bit harsh to ban people for recreating it, in that specific circumstance. It was a real thing, and it's not like swastikas are illegal anywhere (except Germany and Austria, and even then it's permitted for historical recreation or the purposes of art, like an old, real racing car in a video game).

I'm not sure what 1930s Silver Arrows are in FM these days though, because I've never owned an XBox One, so it may be merely theory that you can't put into practice...
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Touché, I was under the assumption that you were a Forza player. Must've gotten you mixed up with our resident Long Arm of the Law, @SlipZtrEm. Anyways, I like my XBL account strictly unbanned, so I think I'll have to deny your request. :lol:

Anyways, it appears that the flag of Nazi Germany adorned the racing "Silver Arrows" only in rare occasions: namely, on intercontinental races. With this announcement the return of the two German pre-War GP cars featured in FM6, the Typ-D Auto Union and the W154 Mercedes-Benz, has been confirmed: the former model undoubtedly raced with a Nazi flag painted on it at the 1937 Vanderbilt Cup, but after some quite extensive research that I did in the past I am pretty sure I can say the latter never received the same treatment.
Regardless, the current TOU for Xbox Live prohibit the sharing of content which is inappropriate, profane, defamatory, infringing, obscene, indecent or unlawful and/or incites discrimination, hate or violence towards one person or a group because of their belonging to a race, a religion or a nation, or that insults the victims of crimes against humanity. The German swastika could undoubtedly fall in the latter category (and still is, after all, in great use amongst neo-Nazis all over the world), and possibly also in the former (at least in Germany, where cases of historically- or artistically-justified use still ended up in front of courts).
Of course in reality a lot of discretionary power is left to content moderators: while I'm sure uploading a screenshot from Wolfenstein: The New Order where a Nazi flag is depicted would not be seen as a violation of the TOU, posting a livery featuring Nazist iconography (whether or not it's historically accurate) over your Storefront would be a completely different thing, for reasons that should seem quite obvious if you played Wolfenstein (and speaking of that - Bethesda, the publishers of that game, won't allow you to upload to their mod-sharing services Fallout 4 mods featuring Nazist symbols. I guess the only Nazis the world of gaming is fine with are the ones you kill in gruesome ways?).

Tobacco or alcohol advertising is hardly in violation of the Microsoft TOU, although T10 has been so far hesitant to endorse alcohol or tobacco liveries, reguarly ignoring them in their weekly livery contests (in all likelihood, due to the possible reaction of rating boards). And as for the Imperial Japanese flag, it stands to reason that since it's still used by the Japanese Self Defense Forces (and features in the logos of companies such as the Asahi Shimbun and even American military units) its use would be considered less controversial. I guess the fact that the Japanese Empire didn't begin or end during the Showa era (and Hirohito reigned until 1989, becoming a symbol of Japan's transition to a relatively pacifist democracy in the meanwhile) plays an important part in this. You'd still get suspended quicker than you can say "banhammer" if you tried to upload a livery advertising a genital mutilation clinic, tho.

And we really have gone off topic now, haven't we?:lol:
 
ClydeYellow
Tobacco or alcohol advertising is hardly in violation of the Microsoft TOU, although T10 has been so far hesitant to endorse alcohol or tobacco liveries, reguarly ignoring them in their weekly livery contests (in all likelihood, due to the possible reaction of rating boards).
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Indeed - and PD one pushed out a GT6 update to silently remove all of the tobacco advertising from the Madrid and Monza circuits that sneaked in (still missed some though!).
ClydeYellow
You'd still get suspended quicker than you can say "banhammer" if you tried to upload a livery advertising a genital mutilation clinic, tho.
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It won Le Mans in 1995 :lol:

I mean, technically it was a plastic surgery clinic, but it specialised in circumcisions. It might slip in past the censors. It doesn't stick out too much - might be hard to see. Etc. etc. etc.
 
Famine
It won Le Mans in 1995 :lol:

I mean, technically it was a plastic surgery clinic, but it specialised in circumcisions. It might slip in past the censors. It doesn't stick out too much - might be hard to see. Etc. etc. etc.
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Oh, I completely forgot about that one! :lol: But I think that whether or not male circumcision represents an instance of genital mutilation is debatable, and Ueno Clinic may fall more under the category of, a-herm, "penile goods and services providers" together with erectile dysfunction medications and condom manufacturers - and I recall seeing a certain famous Surtees livery replicated on a McLaren M23 in the FM5 days, so I guess that mentioning businesses involved in such activities isn't forbidden (although again, a livery contest win may be off the table).

(Also, GT6 and Codemaster's GRID actually featured that specific car, so there's also that)

P.S: I only remembered after writing my post that a painter who's very famous in the Forza community, SCS Skreamies, had not one, but two Ueno Clinic liveries in his SF in the FM6 days. Pretty sure that we can take that as definitive proof that "gentleman sausage snipping" clinics are, indeed, a "safe" sponsor these days.
 
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I don't think they will ever take away the user created alchohol and tobacco liveries. There's so many iconic ones, it's part of racing history. I've pretty much seen every classic livery, alchohol or tobacco related, for any of the cars available.

On the 962 alone, I've seen The Milller High Life, Jaegermeister, Budweiser, and Camel liveries all really well done(and Rothmans of course). Also Senna's MP4/4 with the Marlboro Livery.
 
I was checking a few NFS Payback videos on YT and came across this:

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Safe to say @GroupB was right.
 

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