Motorsports Simulators Python

[Radracing]

Would you pay $29,900.00 for this. Apparently some would and even more. It's under pre-owned inventory.

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$29,900
Internet Price
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VIN #: 0000
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RAC Performance is please to offer a Motorsports Simulators Python. This is a three axis driving simulator that is a complete unit; just plug and play. It is pre loaded with RFactor racing software with over 1,000,000,000 credits. Features:
Three Axis Movement
Surround Sound
Dual “Seat Shaker” Subwoofers
Options Manual Shifter
Lipstick Camera
Four Point Harness
This unit was just under $60,000 when new and can be bought for much, much less than a new one! Race an entire season without buying fuel, tires parts and body panels!

 

[Ya Pops]

If I was in the financial position to buying those cars in the first place, I doubt another 30k would bother me too much.

Incidently, I thought you were gonna post something like this

EDIT: Ah, now it makes sense Nah, I'd go with the CXC at that price point. (And if you're spending that much, what's another 10-15 grand?)

 

[Radracing]

If I was in the financial position to buying those cars in the first place, I doubt another 30k would bother me too much.

Incidently, I thought you were gonna post something like this

EDIT: Ah, now it makes sense Nah, I'd go with the CXC at that price point. (And if you're spending that much, what's another 10-15 grand?)

Ya, that is pretty much in the same ball park. It's only for the boys in the big leagues. Sorry to say as for me, I paid even less for my used Porsche compared to that SIM.

The pedals on this one are all hydraulic compared to the CXC and it looks like its only the seat not the whole frame that gets the movement from the hydraulics.

 

[Ya Pops]

Mmm, those pedals are pretty damn sweet.

Without trying either rig, it's difficult to say what would be better. For me, the CXC looks cleaner and could be a little more responsive/subtle with the position of the actuators and the seat pivot point.

I'm no engineer though, that's just how it looks to me. Gotta get a test drive before I break out the credit card I guess

 

[lemansfanatic]

If you have your own race team or racing related business, this would be a sweet tax write off...

 

[Mayaman]

Not a fan of CXC, only moves the seat and changes the distance between your arms and the steering wheel. Rather have this.

 

[blown540ci]

Those pedals look very nice indeed

I would like to no more about those than anything else .

 

[CodeRedR51]

I would never spend that much on a gaming rig. For that kind of money I could have a very nice track car.

Real track days > Sim racing

 

[Mac K]

I would never spend that much on a gaming rig. For that kind of money I could have a very nice track car.

Real track days > Sim racing

My thoughts exactly. I decent Miata, S2000, Corvette, Mustang, etc can be picked up for that much! Only a crazy person would buy that and to be honest that doesn't look like a 29K setup, more like 1K, I'm sorry, but its true..

 

[Radracing]

My thoughts exactly. I decent Miata, S2000, Corvette, Mustang, etc can be picked up for that much! Only a crazy person would buy that and to be honest that doesn't look like a 29K setup, more like 1K, I'm sorry, but its true..

Well 1K would probably get you a couple of monitors not all 3 if those are 42 inch LCD's those Tilton pedals would probably cost you 1K they look like the ones you use for actual race cars. The steering wheel looks like they are at least $1,500 already. Just add them all up plus man hours to put it together maybe close to 10k to 15k. But it will only make sense if you can write it off as equipment for a race team. Otherwise it would be pretty stupid to spend this kind of money on a sim just to play with. I would rather play with a real car even if I can't afford to take it to the track.

 

[Mac K]

Well 1K would probably get you a couple of monitors not all 3 if those are 42 inch LCD's those Tilton pedals would probably cost you 1K they look like the ones you use for actual race cars. The steering wheel looks like they are at least $1,500 already. Just add them all up plus man hours to put it together maybe close to 10k to 15k.

I guess what I should say is, it doesn't look like a 29K rig, it looks "cheaper". That just seems way over priced, but to each their own. This is clearly just a thing to "say I have one" if you know what I mean, obviously the owner is well off judging by the Ferrari and the Aston Martin in the background.

 

[Mayaman]

I would never spend that much on a gaming rig. For that kind of money I could have a very nice track car.

Real track days > Sim racing

Guys this is aimed at people that have race cars for off season practice, not little Timmy

Awesome rig

 

[Radracing]

Guys this is aimed at people that have race cars for off season practice, not little Timmy

Awesome rig

Yes, and most likely spend that much money running their real race cars on just a single track day with their pit crew and all. Hell even Tony Stark of "Iron Man" didn't have a rig this nice, he had that cheap PVC rig in his garage. haha!

 

[the_greeze]

"Lipstick Camera"? WTF?

 

[Brock1Samson9]

"Lipstick Camera"? WTF?

Lol I saw that too. I wouldn't buy it simply on the use of that phrase.

 

[Fobia]

Let's see...
Seat & frame - 1500 at most;
Pedals - 1000 at most;
Shifter - around 500;
Wheel - 1000 at most (What kind of wheel is that? For that ammount of money you'd expect a FREX or an ECCI at least.);
Sound system - 1000 at most;
Motion simulator - around 2000;
Tripple screen setup - around 1500;
PC - around 2000 (might be more depending on the specs);
Bits and bobs - around 500;
Craftsmanship - 2000 at most.

In all it's true value should be around $12500, 15000 at most therefore 30000 is a joke.

 

[Blaze_409]

lol. I thought we were talking about 2900......looked again..29000 used 60,000 new? What Da 🤬??.
What sane person would go out and get a new sportscar for 60,000. He obcioulsy has enough of those in the background lol. Darn rich people lol!

 

[playnthru]

Off topic, check out the Ferrari and Aston in the background..

 

[Mayaman]

Let's see...
Seat & frame - 1500 at most;
Pedals - 1000 at most;
Shifter - around 500;
Wheel - 1000 at most (What kind of wheel is that? For that ammount of money you'd expect a FREX or an ECCI at least.);
Sound system - 1000 at most;
Motion simulator - around 2000;
Tripple screen setup - around 1500;
PC - around 2000 (might be more depending on the specs);
Bits and bobs - around 500;
Craftsmanship - 2000 at most.

In all it's true value should be around $12500, 15000 at most therefore 30000 is a joke.

Firstly those pedals are way more than 1000. Secondly I love how nobody ever takes R&D and development into consideration. While I wouldn't pay 30K for that there is definitely a ton of work in the background of something that Makes it expensive. The motion alone has tens of thousands of dollars in development. I always find it funny that if it's worth $hit, why doesn't everybody just slap one together.

 

[Mayaman]

Also, is that an X-sim motion based platform moving an entire platform instead of just the seat?

 

[tomcat66]

I never did understand where they pick up the information for the seat movement. Can that be filtered out of the force feedback signal to the wheel?

On topic again: I think that price is ridiculous for a system that only moves a few degrees. See here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJyTvxuXODY

You can get in that direction with a buttkicker for much, much less.

I would prefer something like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQLF06rwzVE ;-)
This is a product of this company: http://www.motion-sim.cz/

 

[Radracing]

I never did understand where they pick up the information for the seat movement. Can that be filtered out of the force feedback signal to the wheel?

On topic again: I think that price is ridiculous for a system that only moves a few degrees. See here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJyTvxuXODY

You can get in that direction with a buttkicker for much, much less.

I would prefer something like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQLF06rwzVE ;-)
This is a product of this company: http://www.motion-sim.cz/

That motion-sim is definitely a better Rig compared to the other two. Even if it has only one monitor. I'm sure for a few extra thousand $$$ they can configure it to have triple monitors.

 

[GTMail]

I don't care how much technology goes into these things. They will NEVER compare to real life. Give me a Miata for 5 grand and the other 25 getting it race prepped to my liking , now that's fun. Not playing an overpriced video game.

 

[Radracing]

I don't care how much technology goes into these things. They will NEVER compare to real life. Give me a Miata for 5 grand and the other 25 getting it race prepped to my liking , now that's fun. Not playing an overpriced video game.

I think we are past that argument already. We are pretty much in agreement that this type of rig is not for the average Joe who uses it just to play a video game. Its for the super rich or people who can use it as a write off for a motor sports team or what ever business they will use it for.

I guess now we are trying to compare other Rigs that are of the same price range and see who has the better design. We could also classify the different classes of driving rigs to.

a) cheap home made rigs.

b) mass market rigs

c) high end motion rigs.

See Video Link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQLF06rwzVE

d) million dollar motion rigs made for car companies like the one in the Lexus commercial.

See Video Link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGZIztjoHb8&feature=relmfu

 

[Mayaman]

I never did understand where they pick up the information for the seat movement. Can that be filtered out of the force feedback signal to the wheel?

On topic again: I think that price is ridiculous for a system that only moves a few degrees. See here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJyTvxuXODY

You can get in that direction with a buttkicker for much, much less.

I would prefer something like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQLF06rwzVE ;-)
This is a product of this company: http://www.motion-sim.cz/

The CXC only moves the seat and pretty sure it provides no transducer effects. Can anyone with a CXC type actuator X-Sim rig chime in? Do the X-Sim actuators provide rumble?

 

[Fobia]

Firstly those pedals are way more than 1000. Secondly I love how nobody ever takes R&D and development into consideration. While I wouldn't pay 30K for that there is definitely a ton of work in the background of something that Makes it expensive. The motion alone has tens of thousands of dollars in development. I always find it funny that if it's worth $hit, why doesn't everybody just slap one together.

I said craftsmanship, but I meant R&D, which is worth 2000, even 4000 at most hence I said it should be worth $15000, since the actual cost of the equipment shouldn't be more than $10000.
Ton of work? You could say the same for ClubSport Pedals yet they're sold for $200.
People do overrate their work, I'm ok with that but there is a limit, hence I doubt anyone will buy this (maybe some multimillionaire will buy it for his kid).

Unrelated to this... I was watching used car ads on the web, and one genius is selling an Audi Q5 2.0 TDi for 35000 euros, I'd like to see if anyone will buy that. There is cheap, then there is expensive, and then there is stupid.

Also, is that an X-sim motion based platform moving an entire platform instead of just the seat?

From what I can see it's only the seat, which is a huge drawback in my book (so are all motion sims with tripple screen setups).

I never did understand where they pick up the information for the seat movement. Can that be filtered out of the force feedback signal to the wheel?

On topic again: I think that price is ridiculous for a system that only moves a few degrees. See here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJyTvxuXODY

You can get in that direction with a buttkicker for much, much less.

I would prefer something like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQLF06rwzVE ;-)
This is a product of this company: http://www.motion-sim.cz/

This, this this! This is exactly what I was gonna type but I didn't know the correct links nor the correct terminology, you hit it spot on and I agree with everything you said. 👍

 

[Mayaman]

Pretty sure that's moving more than just the seat, is there a video of this thing? And nobody, unless you built it can know what it costs to build.

 

[Ya Pops]

I would prefer something like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQLF06rwzVE ;-)
This is a product of this company: http://www.motion-sim.cz/

I dunno man, getting thrown around like a rag doll might be cool for flight sims... I get that it's trying to generate a lot of G, but it just seems way over the top to me for the car stuff.

I reckon the CXC is the better bet for drivers. It looks like it give you much more useful and detailed feedback information and I bet you'd be less likely to puke all over your investment Also, could you imagine getting through an endurance race in that thing?
Saying that, there are really cool things about it like the way it squats down when accelerating through a dip in the road giving that sinking stomach feeling.

Of course, that's just speculation based on watching videos

 

[tomcat66]

I dunno man, getting thrown around like a rag doll might be cool for flight sims... I get that it's trying to generate a lot of G, but it just seems way over the top to me for the car stuff.

I reckon the CXC is the better bet for drivers. It looks like it give you much more useful and detailed feedback information and I bet you'd be less likely to puke all over your investment Also, could you imagine getting through an endurance race in that thing?
Saying that, there are really cool things about it like the way it squats down when accelerating through a dip in the road giving that sinking stomach feeling.

Of course, that's just speculation based on watching videos

I have never tried one of these rigs myself so I am also just guessing. I think the real problem with these rigs ist, that they need to programme the software for each game. At least the producers always list the games the rig is supporting.

A buttkicker on a decent "normal" rig can be attached to any game or plattform because it works with the low frequency signal of the game audio. Of course than you can never "feel" the accelaration of the car.

I would also suggest to use the moving rigs in complete darkness so you are not confused by the surroundings in your room. That would make the experience even more impressive (I remember a rollercoaster ride in LA Disneyland in the dark many years ago - very scary )

 

[tomcat66]

Pretty sure that's moving more than just the seat, is there a video of this thing? And nobody, unless you built it can know what it costs to build.

I just found a little video on their homepage, but it is from a different rig:

http://www.motorsportsimulators.com/index.html