Mugen shows off ridiculous, over the top NSX. They might even built it.

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It's not "a bit much." Every piece on the car is completely justified. Sure, you might not like it, but 300hp is more than enough to require aerodynamic modifications.
I wouldn't be so sure about that. Yes, these pieces are most certianly functional aerodynamic aids. But that doesn't mean that this particular car can make very good use of those functional aerodynamic changes with the stock power and what may be a stock chassis. Which is why I inputted the "barring massive changes to the engine" qualifier as well as my earlier "depending on what they did to the engine" statement. The truth of the matter is that we don't know what they have done to the car other than the body kit, so I don't think it is unacceptable to say that these modifications may not turn the NSX into the fastest Japanese car ever.

In short though, yes, they do need to build the car. If they don't build a road going version then they can't use it.
But Honda hasn't built the NSX for 4 years now. So why are they allowed to still race it?

Azureman
Followed by you later posts relating the NSX to a Pontiac Grand Prix or Ford Mustang.
By which I was referring to a single body part attached to this one:
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Not this one:
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I never said that anything on this Mugen was non-functional. What I did say was that I question the usefulness of a JGTC-style aerodynamics package on a street car with what could be stock power.

I also believe that the discussion over the NSX GT ended with you saying something along these lines:

"Road car it is silly, in a sense."

Azureman
The BS I posted had to do with Mugen building the car, which was part of your question as to why they would build the car.
Except I was asking TheCracker something about JGTC regulations, specifically how the NSX is still eligible to compete in the series despite not being built for multiple years now. In essence, I was asking TheCracker to explain just how lax JGTC rules are in that regard. My question had nothing to do with the Mugen. You'll note that I once again asked this question to Perfect Balance in this post as well; and I'll explain that the only reason that I didn't word it that way before was because I knew other cars were raced in JGTC after they ended production as well.

Azureman
That whole sentence is awe and positive, aside from the first two thirds of it.
So I see you missed this bit here immediately after the bits you bolded:
depending on what they did to the engine

In which I stated my reservations regarding how functional the increased aerodynamics are.

I also see you missed this post here:

I never said anything else besides the scoop was tacked on. And I never said that the modifications didn't have a purpose. What I did say was that the modifications done to the NSX GT, regardless of the reasoning behind them, were silly. This:
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Technically had a purpose as well. Pretty much the same purpose in fact.
But the reasoning behind the modifications do little to change the fact that none of those over-the-top modifications add anything to the road version.
Which explained the reasoning behind my reservations (ie. Functional aerodynamic modifications that the street car cannot use to any great effect).

Azureman
Plus the words "ridiculous" and "over the top" also sound positive after reading the rest of your posts in the thread.
The Dodge Viper ACR is most certianly over the top. The Bugatti Veyron is ridiculous and over the top. Most Lamborghinis are ridiculous and over the top. Neither of those terms are particularly negative, and this NSX would be over the top regardless of the performance it may have. I do concede, however, that perhaps using "ridiculous" was a poor choice of words.

Azureman
Your entire attitude is nothing but "Oh look, another Japanese rice box car with pointless aero mods."
Actually, no, my attitude is more along the lines of "Oh look, a Japanese take on the idea behind the Viper ACR. I hope it has enough power to make use of those mods effectively."

Azureman
Plus you get irate and angry over just about anything.
The main squabble in this thread occurred because I made a joke about the NSX GT being a bit strong in its appearance, upon which you became irate and angry.
 
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Maybe you need to learn how to better phrase everything you say, because what you are claiming is not what I've been reading.

The aero mods would help regardless of the engine work. It has always been commented that the NSX ran rather skinny tires, and any extra downforce will help in cornering. You seem to think aero mods on a car like this are completely pointless unless it is making 500+ HP. I could have a completely stock motor and would run faster times at the track if just for having tires that are about 40% wider.
 
You seem to think I'm the only one who has voiced the possibility, considering my posts are the only one you have taken issue with. Also, "completely pointless" is quite a leap from "I hope it has enough power to make use of those mods effectively."

Because I did address those issues and those posters haven't gotten so worked up on it. They also haven't been constantly questioning things, and didn't use rather insulting words.

Mind you, you have been saying things like this...

Toronado
But that doesn't mean that this particular car can make very good use of those functional aerodynamic changes with the stock power and what may be a stock chassis. Which is why I inputted the "barring massive changes to the engine" qualifier as well as my earlier "depending on what they did to the engine" statement.
Which gives a pretty heavy tone of "if they haven't given it a lot more power, this aero mods are just show bits." And show bits are pointless bits, generally.

These types of aero mods would be highly effective on my simple, lower power Spyder even, as I have clearly seen where downforce and improved aero would make my car faster and much more stable at high speeds.
 
I wouldn't be so sure about that. Yes, these pieces are most certianly functional aerodynamic aids. But that doesn't mean that this particular car can make very good use of those functional aerodynamic changes with the stock power and what may be a stock chassis.
Why not? It goes plenty fast enough, which is basically the only requirement for aero modifications to work. A race car version of this thing probably doesn't have a much higher top speed. It's not like a quicker accelerating car makes them more effective.

Evasive Motorsports
"We learned to look at things that maybe most American tuners don't notice, like aero for example; that's a really big thing. There's a bigger picture to look at than just big horsepower. Having the right aerodynamics makes a huge difference. Just by changing the angle on the wing a couple degrees or adding splitters/canards affects the way the car performs; you can tune these things just like you would an engine and can see results."
 
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