MX-5 Roadster TC Series - Fixed Series

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brettcee
Lets hear it, or read it, whatever.
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Keep in mind this is a work in progress. ..


Super Tuner Car PPR Series

The Super Tuner Car Championship series was created as a means for like minded racers to enjoy some fun and competitive racing with a wide variety of cars that would take advantage of everything Gran Turismo 5 has to offer.

GT5 is a great game. It provides stunning HD graphics with a great racing feel and hundreds of awesome cars to abuse on highly detailed virtual tracks from around the world.

But GT5 is far from perfect and all cars are not created equal. Any online race organizer has struggled with balancing different cars in an effort to create close racing action. I know I have. More and more it seems that each car must be set at vastly different regulations or making events “one make” races to ensure balanced and close racing action.

I crave variety in my race series and I enjoy seeing different manufacturers battle it out. I enjoy seeing die hard fans pit their favorites against their rivals. I love watching the replays and viewing the race pics of different cars waging war on the track.

So for this season of STC, I am proposing something different. I’m asking all of my longtime racers to bear with me and hang on as I propose something completely different from what we have done in the past.

This season I am not guaranteeing balanced race cars. We will not be running any “One Make” events. This is the year of...

The Performance Point Restrictor Series!

Winning and losing will now have a direct effect on the performance of your vehicle going forwards now. Win and earn championship points but with a caveat. High place finishes come with a cumalative performance point penalty. On the flip side, very low place finishers, while not scoring many championship points, will be awarded a cumalative performance point bonus!

I know most of you enjoy a fair and impartial race but I beg you guys to give this a try for ONE season. I know you will be skeptical but all I ask is to give it a shot. At the best we get close racing with multiple different winners each week and at the worst we still get a nice variety of cars battling it out. In the end our group still gets together each week and has some fun.


So what do you say? Are you up to the challenge of the first ever Super Tuner Car PPR series?

Now, after dropping that bombshell, for those of you who are still on board, here are the actual race series details and one more bombshell:

This year the STC goes Multi-Class!

Touring Class: Consists of the Mazda Roadster TC, Nissan Silva RM, Lotus Elise ‘96 RM, Honda Integra Type R (DC5) RM and Honda CRZ TC

Starting Performance Points: 505
Tires: Race Hard

Grand Touring Class: Consists of the Nissan SKYLINE GT-R R34 TC, Acura NSX RM, Chevy Corvette Z06 RM, Subaru Impreza TC and Mazda RX-7 TC

Starting Performance Points: 615
Tires: Race Med/Soft

Cars will be chosen draft style based on REVERSE order of last seasons final standings. Only one of each car is allowed, UNLESS we have more than ten drivers. In that case a multiple of a car may be chosen once.

DRAFT ORDER
(Based on REVERSE order of last seasons final standings)
thlogan (Veteran racer, raced in every series)
ScorpionPHVH57 ( Veteran racer, raced in every series)
brettcee (Veteran racer)
djchon (Series founder)
E46Envy (3 season veteran racer)
BermudaKID (1 win and 3 podium finishes last season)
Allinwithjt (2 series wins last season)
xR0ADRASHx (4 time Super Tuner Car Champion)
redrobin347 (2 series win and 7 podium finishes last season)
GTP_mike46an2 (Defending Super Tuner Car Champion)
Also invited to participate:
ncrthree
Godangit
Skeletor27
ableACTION

Series Facts:
6 race series
Will be run every Wednesday
Qualifying at 6:30 PT (9:30 ET)
Race Start at 7:00 PT (10:00 ET)
Please show up ten minutes early in xR0ADRASHx’s lounge prior to qualifying


Performance Point Restrictor Rules:
The podium finishers will all receive a cumulative Performance Point penalty.

1st place will receive a -15 point penalty
2nd place will receive a -10 point penalty
3rd place will receive a -5 point penalty

The bottom four finishers will receive a cumulative Performance Point bonus.

+5
+10
+15
+20

In the event that there are only 7 participants only the bottom 2 finishers will receive a bonus. The podium finishers are not affected and will receive their penalties.

Event Regulations:

ABS is allowed
TCS is allowed
Active steering is banned.
Skid Recovery force is banned.
Driving Line is banned.
Tire Wear/Fuel Consumption is ON NORMAL
Boost will be set to OFF
Grip Reduction will be set to REAL
Draft will be set to WEAK
Damage will be set to Light
Penalties will be on during Qualification but OFF during races

Event Procedures:
Races will be held in a public lobby due to better internet connectivity.
Racers are to meet up prior to qualifying in xR0ADRASHx’s lobby so we can determine the number of racers to set in the public lobby.
Racers are NOT to enter the track until instructed to do so.
The lowest PP limit will be set and those at that limit will be asked to enter the track and wait in the pit area. The PP will go up based on current drivers allowed PP and they will be asked in accordingly. The last drivers to enter the track will be the racers with the highest allowed PP limit.
Racers will be released in groups of four to qualify and given 4 laps to record their qualifying time (1 warm up lap, 2 hot laps and 1 cool down). Upon completion of your qualifying you are to wait in the pit area. If you don’t know how all you have to do is press PAUSE while entering the pits.
RACERS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO LEAVE THE TRACK UNTIL INSTRUCTED TO DO SO!!!! Leaving the track will cause an immediate forfeit of the race.
Racers will be instructed to leave the track while the host resets the lobby. RACERS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO TUNE DURING THIS TIME! DOING SO WILL FORFEIT YOUR RACE! Stewards are assigned and will be watching.
Racers will then be informed of their qualifying spot and instructed to line up on the track in order.
The race will then be started. Unless otherwise noted races will begin with 1 pace lap and require 1 pit stop.

Championship Point System

1st------>100 points
2nd----->80 points
3rd----->70 points
4th----->60 points
5th----->55 points
6th----->50 points
7th----->45 points
8th----->40 points
9th----->35 points
10th---->30 points
11th---->25 points
12th---->20 points
13th---->15 points
14th---->10 points
 
bermudakid
If I had a nickle for how many times I had to say this while working at the speedway....

GET AWAY FROM THE DAMN FENCE

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGT4KvnLRWI">YouTube Link</a>
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Damn BK. Why did you have to elbow that white lady in back of the head?
 
djchon661
Keep in mind this is a work in progress. ..

Super Tuner Car PPR Series

The Super Tuner Car Championship series was created as a means for like minded racers to enjoy some fun and competitive racing with a wide variety of cars that would take advantage of everything Gran Turismo 5 has to offer.

GT5 is a great game. It provides stunning HD graphics with a great racing feel and hundreds of awesome cars to abuse on highly detailed virtual tracks from around the world.

But GT5 is far from perfect and all cars are not created equal. Any online race organizer has struggled with balancing different cars in an effort to create close racing action. I know I have. More and more it seems that each car must be set at vastly different regulations or making events &ldquo;one make&rdquo; races to ensure balanced and close racing action.

I crave variety in my race series and I enjoy seeing different manufacturers battle it out. I enjoy seeing die hard fans pit their favorites against their rivals. I love watching the replays and viewing the race pics of different cars waging war on the track.

So for this season of STC, I am proposing something different. I&rsquo;m asking all of my longtime racers to bear with me and hang on as I propose something completely different from what we have done in the past.

This season I am not guaranteeing balanced race cars. We will not be running any &ldquo;One Make&rdquo; events. This is the year of...

The Performance Point Restrictor Series!

Winning and losing will now have a direct effect on the performance of your vehicle going forwards now. Win and earn championship points but with a caveat. High place finishes come with a cumalative performance point penalty. On the flip side, very low place finishers, while not scoring many championship points, will be awarded a cumalative performance point bonus!

I know most of you enjoy a fair and impartial race but I beg you guys to give this a try for ONE season. I know you will be skeptical but all I ask is to give it a shot. At the best we get close racing with multiple different winners each week and at the worst we still get a nice variety of cars battling it out. In the end our group still gets together each week and has some fun.

So what do you say? Are you up to the challenge of the first ever Super Tuner Car PPR series?

Now, after dropping that bombshell, for those of you who are still on board, here are the actual race series details and one more bombshell:

This year the STC goes Multi-Class!

Touring Class: Consists of the Mazda Roadster TC, Nissan Silva RM, Lotus Elise &lsquo;96 RM, Honda Integra Type R (DC5) RM and Honda CRZ TC

Starting Performance Points: 505
Tires: Race Hard

Grand Touring Class: Consists of the Nissan SKYLINE GT-R R34 TC, Acura NSX RM, Chevy Corvette Z06 RM, Subaru Impreza TC and Mazda RX-7 TC

Starting Performance Points: 615
Tires: Race Med/Soft

Cars will be chosen draft style based on REVERSE order of last seasons final standings. Only one of each car is allowed, UNLESS we have more than ten drivers. In that case a multiple of a car may be chosen once.

DRAFT ORDER
(Based on REVERSE order of last seasons final standings)
thlogan (Veteran racer, raced in every series)
ScorpionPHVH57 ( Veteran racer, raced in every series)
brettcee (Veteran racer)
djchon (Series founder)
E46Envy (3 season veteran racer)
BermudaKID (1 win and 3 podium finishes last season)
Allinwithjt (2 series wins last season)
xR0ADRASHx (4 time Super Tuner Car Champion)
redrobin347 (2 series win and 7 podium finishes last season)
GTP_mike46an2 (Defending Super Tuner Car Champion)
Also invited to participate:
ncrthree
Godangit
Skeletor27
ableACTION

Series Facts:
6 race series
Will be run every Wednesday
Qualifying at 6:30 PT (9:30 ET)
Race Start at 7:00 PT (10:00 ET)
Please show up ten minutes early in xR0ADRASHx&rsquo;s lounge prior to qualifying

Performance Point Restrictor Rules:
The podium finishers will all receive a cumulative Performance Point penalty.

1st place will receive a -15 point penalty
2nd place will receive a -10 point penalty
3rd place will receive a -5 point penalty

The bottom four finishers will receive a cumulative Performance Point bonus.

+5
+10
+15
+20

In the event that there are only 7 participants only the bottom 2 finishers will receive a bonus. The podium finishers are not affected and will receive their penalties.

Event Regulations:

ABS is allowed
TCS is allowed
Active steering is banned.
Skid Recovery force is banned.
Driving Line is banned.
Tire Wear/Fuel Consumption is ON NORMAL
Boost will be set to OFF
Grip Reduction will be set to REAL
Draft will be set to WEAK
Damage will be set to Light
Penalties will be on during Qualification but OFF during races

Event Procedures:
Races will be held in a public lobby due to better internet connectivity.
Racers are to meet up prior to qualifying in xR0ADRASHx&rsquo;s lobby so we can determine the number of racers to set in the public lobby.
Racers are NOT to enter the track until instructed to do so.
The lowest PP limit will be set and those at that limit will be asked to enter the track and wait in the pit area. The PP will go up based on current drivers allowed PP and they will be asked in accordingly. The last drivers to enter the track will be the racers with the highest allowed PP limit.
Racers will be released in groups of four to qualify and given 4 laps to record their qualifying time (1 warm up lap, 2 hot laps and 1 cool down). Upon completion of your qualifying you are to wait in the pit area. If you don&rsquo;t know how all you have to do is press PAUSE while entering the pits.
RACERS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO LEAVE THE TRACK UNTIL INSTRUCTED TO DO SO!!!! Leaving the track will cause an immediate forfeit of the race.
Racers will be instructed to leave the track while the host resets the lobby. RACERS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO TUNE DURING THIS TIME! DOING SO WILL FORFEIT YOUR RACE! Stewards are assigned and will be watching.
Racers will then be informed of their qualifying spot and instructed to line up on the track in order.
The race will then be started. Unless otherwise noted races will begin with 1 pace lap and require 1 pit stop.

Championship Point System

1st------>100 points
2nd----->80 points
3rd----->70 points
4th----->60 points
5th----->55 points
6th----->50 points
7th----->45 points
8th----->40 points
9th----->35 points
10th---->30 points
11th---->25 points
12th---->20 points
13th---->15 points
14th---->10 points
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I'm in. Allin that is.
 
That's a lot of words, and I can't read.


With 10 people 1 class would Do.
 
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Interesting concept. Will participation numbers allow it to work?

We head to Laguna Seca for the final week of the MX5 Cup. I'd like to thank everyone for participating in the event. Sorry that it ran longer than I had expected. Hope everyone enjoyed it.

Here are the standings as of now.
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awr117
Interesting concept. Will participation numbers allow it to work?

We head to Laguna Seca for the final week of the MX5 Cup. I'd like to thank everyone for participating in the event. Sorry that it ran longer than I had expected. Hope everyone enjoyed it.

Here are the standings as of now.
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I plan on being there and this series was great. Wished I could have participated more.

As for participation, I was hoping for 12 total racers, 6 for each class buuuuut that might not be realistic. And sorry for hijacking the thread with super long post. I had some free time...


Ill be making my own thread soon btw if interest is there
 
bermudakid
That's a lot of words, and I can't read.

With 10 people 1 class would Do.
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If 1 class I would vote for higher pp class. What do you think?
 
djchon661
Keep in mind this is a work in progress. ..

Super Tuner Car PPR Series

The Super Tuner Car Championship series was created as a means for like minded racers to enjoy some fun and competitive racing with a wide variety of cars that would take advantage of everything Gran Turismo 5 has to offer.

GT5 is a great game. It provides stunning HD graphics with a great racing feel and hundreds of awesome cars to abuse on highly detailed virtual tracks from around the world.

But GT5 is far from perfect and all cars are not created equal. Any online race organizer has struggled with balancing different cars in an effort to create close racing action. I know I have. More and more it seems that each car must be set at vastly different regulations or making events &ldquo;one make&rdquo; races to ensure balanced and close racing action.

I crave variety in my race series and I enjoy seeing different manufacturers battle it out. I enjoy seeing die hard fans pit their favorites against their rivals. I love watching the replays and viewing the race pics of different cars waging war on the track.

So for this season of STC, I am proposing something different. I&rsquo;m asking all of my longtime racers to bear with me and hang on as I propose something completely different from what we have done in the past.

This season I am not guaranteeing balanced race cars. We will not be running any &ldquo;One Make&rdquo; events. This is the year of...

The Performance Point Restrictor Series!

Winning and losing will now have a direct effect on the performance of your vehicle going forwards now. Win and earn championship points but with a caveat. High place finishes come with a cumalative performance point penalty. On the flip side, very low place finishers, while not scoring many championship points, will be awarded a cumalative performance point bonus!

I know most of you enjoy a fair and impartial race but I beg you guys to give this a try for ONE season. I know you will be skeptical but all I ask is to give it a shot. At the best we get close racing with multiple different winners each week and at the worst we still get a nice variety of cars battling it out. In the end our group still gets together each week and has some fun.

So what do you say? Are you up to the challenge of the first ever Super Tuner Car PPR series?

Now, after dropping that bombshell, for those of you who are still on board, here are the actual race series details and one more bombshell:

This year the STC goes Multi-Class!

Touring Class: Consists of the Mazda Roadster TC, Nissan Silva RM, Lotus Elise &lsquo;96 RM, Honda Integra Type R (DC5) RM and Honda CRZ TC

Starting Performance Points: 505
Tires: Race Hard

Grand Touring Class: Consists of the Nissan SKYLINE GT-R R34 TC, Acura NSX RM, Chevy Corvette Z06 RM, Subaru Impreza TC and Mazda RX-7 TC

Starting Performance Points: 615
Tires: Race Med/Soft

Cars will be chosen draft style based on REVERSE order of last seasons final standings. Only one of each car is allowed, UNLESS we have more than ten drivers. In that case a multiple of a car may be chosen once.

DRAFT ORDER
(Based on REVERSE order of last seasons final standings)
thlogan (Veteran racer, raced in every series)
ScorpionPHVH57 ( Veteran racer, raced in every series)
brettcee (Veteran racer)
djchon (Series founder)
E46Envy (3 season veteran racer)
BermudaKID (1 win and 3 podium finishes last season)
Allinwithjt (2 series wins last season)
xR0ADRASHx (4 time Super Tuner Car Champion)
redrobin347 (2 series win and 7 podium finishes last season)
GTP_mike46an2 (Defending Super Tuner Car Champion)
Also invited to participate:
ncrthree
Godangit
Skeletor27
ableACTION

Series Facts:
6 race series
Will be run every Wednesday
Qualifying at 6:30 PT (9:30 ET)
Race Start at 7:00 PT (10:00 ET)
Please show up ten minutes early in xR0ADRASHx&rsquo;s lounge prior to qualifying

Performance Point Restrictor Rules:
The podium finishers will all receive a cumulative Performance Point penalty.

1st place will receive a -15 point penalty
2nd place will receive a -10 point penalty
3rd place will receive a -5 point penalty

The bottom four finishers will receive a cumulative Performance Point bonus.

+5
+10
+15
+20

In the event that there are only 7 participants only the bottom 2 finishers will receive a bonus. The podium finishers are not affected and will receive their penalties.

Event Regulations:

ABS is allowed
TCS is allowed
Active steering is banned.
Skid Recovery force is banned.
Driving Line is banned.
Tire Wear/Fuel Consumption is ON NORMAL
Boost will be set to OFF
Grip Reduction will be set to REAL
Draft will be set to WEAK
Damage will be set to Light
Penalties will be on during Qualification but OFF during races

Event Procedures:
Races will be held in a public lobby due to better internet connectivity.
Racers are to meet up prior to qualifying in xR0ADRASHx&rsquo;s lobby so we can determine the number of racers to set in the public lobby.
Racers are NOT to enter the track until instructed to do so.
The lowest PP limit will be set and those at that limit will be asked to enter the track and wait in the pit area. The PP will go up based on current drivers allowed PP and they will be asked in accordingly. The last drivers to enter the track will be the racers with the highest allowed PP limit.
Racers will be released in groups of four to qualify and given 4 laps to record their qualifying time (1 warm up lap, 2 hot laps and 1 cool down). Upon completion of your qualifying you are to wait in the pit area. If you don&rsquo;t know how all you have to do is press PAUSE while entering the pits.
RACERS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO LEAVE THE TRACK UNTIL INSTRUCTED TO DO SO!!!! Leaving the track will cause an immediate forfeit of the race.
Racers will be instructed to leave the track while the host resets the lobby. RACERS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO TUNE DURING THIS TIME! DOING SO WILL FORFEIT YOUR RACE! Stewards are assigned and will be watching.
Racers will then be informed of their qualifying spot and instructed to line up on the track in order.
The race will then be started. Unless otherwise noted races will begin with 1 pace lap and require 1 pit stop.

Championship Point System

1st------>100 points
2nd----->80 points
3rd----->70 points
4th----->60 points
5th----->55 points
6th----->50 points
7th----->45 points
8th----->40 points
9th----->35 points
10th---->30 points
11th---->25 points
12th---->20 points
13th---->15 points
14th---->10 points
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Can I take that back? My legs fell asleep reading that on the toilet. I like. This is what us chronic last place finishers need. It may need some tweaking, but I think we should give it a try.
 
brettcee
Can I take that back? My legs fell asleep reading that on the toilet. I like. This is what us chronic last place finishers need. It may need some tweaking, but I think we should give it a try.
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Im open to all suggestions. Nothing is set in stone as far as pp, vehicles, tire compounds...etc...

Im glad im not the only that lets his legs fall asleep while on the throne. Awkard to explain why ur limping out of the bathroom though
 
AllinWitJT
Damn BK. Why did you have to elbow that white lady in back of the head?
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Next time, maybe she'll stay away from the fence.



Stand-By.........


Storm Troopers enroute

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DJ run that series boy! It sounds like a brand new winning formula that all other leagues might adopt, I would like to see 2 class but whatever I think it will be fantastic!

I'm giving it a 👍 👍 :sly:
 
awr117
WTH is up with the flames shooting out of the tailpipes?
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who cares, I think it is impressive that the beta version is stable enough to run a 3 Class championship with over 40 cars on track!!:dunce:

I will be totally sold if the final game can do this on the PS3!!:sly:
 
The sounds and exhaust backfire have not been worked on in a while, they will be re done before release.

PS3 / 360 / PS4 and GloriousmasterracePC release sometime in 2014. (don't expect to see 40+ cars racing on ps3)


Some non performance mods this week for the Audi........

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Scorpion0001
who cares, I think it is impressive that the beta version is stable enough to run a 3 Class championship with over 40 cars on track!!:dunce:

I will be totally sold if the final game can do this on the PS3!!:sly:
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I have a hard time seeing the PS3 handling 40+ cars. Maybe the PS4.
 
DJ. I think your ideas sound great. I've always thought it would be great fun to try a handicap league. Two classes are always fun, but demand a good consistent turnout. I understand you're still working out the details. Now if only the " fast guys" will give it a go. JT's allin. Very cool. There just might be crazy racing all over the track!

thlogan ( very veteran racer, raced in every series, never won squat )
 
DJ, I think the concept is good. Just a few questions.

1, are the PP penalty/rewards cumulative?
2. are the cars close performance wise?

Also it's going to be a chore getting each driver on track with the different PP ratings. So we'll have to iron all that out prior to race day

We should do some testing of all the cars before starting the season. And if possible can we run on Thursdays. If not I'll be missing a few races and someone else will have to run the room.
 
xR0ADRASHx
DJ, I think the concept is good. Just a few questions.

1, are the PP penalty/rewards cumulative?
2. are the cars close performance wise?

Also it's going to be a chore getting each driver on track with the different PP ratings. So we'll have to iron all that out prior to race day

We should do some testing of all the cars before starting the season. And if possible can we run on Thursdays. If not I'll be missing a few races and someone else will have to run the room.
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1. The penalties/rewards are cumulative but I have run into an issue with that during testing. Some of the cars on the list can easily add/drop the PP but not all of the cars can.

2. Short answer: No.

I'm going to do some testing in the afternoons this week to get an average of lap times at the starting PPs and weed out the ones that aren't cutting it.
The cars listed above are not set in stone and hopefully we can get a competitive list.

I'll be posting a link here tonight with the new thread so i can stop hijacking Red Robin's thread LOL.

EDIT: One more thing, we can move it to Thursdays. I say we vote on it. I don't have any issues with racing on Thursday.
 
The cars have to be even in performance when you start for your series to work.


Also DTM from today is up on Speed2.com
 
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Coolest mom ever! ! !


And if i block my mom in the driveway she'll call me/wake me up to move it. :grumpy:


 
DJ, I think your series looks interesting, but as BK stated you have to make sure the cars are even at the start. In any mixed car series we've had the comments about "your car is faster. That's a better car. You have more downforce." etc... If the playing field is not equal to start the attendance of the series will likely suffer.

Honestly it's getting harder for me to race on Wednesdays, so I vote for Thursday.
 
Attendance is key to a mixed series. And lately we've had 8/9 racers. Also with the penalty/bonus, is that based on overall finish or for class? If you see what I'm getting at, say, 5 in one class and 4 in another for a race, the system won't work. Maybe better off running one class or two classes and no penalty/bonus. Let us know if you want help testing cars. We could start next week and iron out the kinks
 
I vote for a small break after the MX-5 Cup until dj irons out the field. I could use a few weeks off.
 
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