My custom gauge WIP (shaun_king)

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I'm currently making a cockpit and thought it would be interesting to put some walk-through pic up to get
feedback from you guys.

Here is my rig. It is constructed from 3mm angle & square steel. It uses a G27 force feedback steering wheel that is modified with a chilicoke adapter to hold a 330mm width OMP rally wheel with 90mm of dish. It's an awesome wheel. The G27 pedals are reverse mounted and the steel frame holds an old Golf GTI seat. The stock G27 paddles were unreachable with the new dished wheel so I had to fabricate some stainless steel paddles of my own. It's mounted on a platform to raise the simulator to a hight that is similar to that of a real car. The steering column cantilevers so entry in and out of the simulator is easy; legs swing in and out of the footwell without knocking on any central or side posts like in some simulators. Check out how we use it in our university time trial simulator meetings
here:



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To start the design process I produced a couple of sketches to visualise the how the gauges would interact with the rest of the frame and the cockpit dashboard that I will eventually produce from fibreglass. The quick airbrush sketch at the bottom of the page is probably my final direction but the gauge instruments will probably need to come towards the driver just a wee bit. They are currently placed in the zone below the bonnet line and above the obscuration line of the steering wheel. When the glass fibre dash is made I’ll do a bit of body-storming to see how it feels.

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Sim projects parts arrive, Whoop whoop!

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Looked on the internet and found that others had great success attaching Kawasaki ZX6R revcounter linear motors to revburners. I found a pair about on the internet for £15 each from motorbike breaker yards on eBay. Attaching them was really easy. The three connectors on the back directly correlate with the [ S1 ], [ + ] & [ - ] outputs on the revburner.

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Once all the components were safely in my grasp I measured all the parts and produced a 83 degree crescent gap graphical design on the dials to represent the restricted mechanical movement of the linear motors under the needles. Also the RPM & Speed are calibrated with rFactor’s 1974 F1 & Lotus 98t simulator mods with a maximum values of 12,000RPM/200MPH. New gauge graphics will be produced for other cars/mods.

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Rough technical sketches were drafted to envisage how the gauge design would integrate with the whole assembly.

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I used a software program call Alias Automotive CAD to sculpt the shape of the instrument cluster. It is regularly used in creative artistic automotive design studios. You can output parts to lasercutters and 3D printers very easily from this program so it is great for prototyping. The shape was made to extenuates the dog-bone curves of the gauge graphic.

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I wanted some convincing that the final instrument cluster was going to look okay so I decided that bashing out some renders on Keyshot. was the only way to decrease the mystery factor concerning the aesthetics and assembly. I assembled a WIP cluster with a nice bit of carbon fibre fablon... cos everything looks better with carbon fibre – LOL. The exploded views that show Volkwagen Polo donor needles, lasercut graphical gauge & steel subframe, subtractive milled covers, servomotors, LCD displays, spacers, nuts, bolts, and revburner PCBs to drive the tachometer and speedometer servomotors. In terms of the finishing the prototype; it needs rear vents, a stand, and locking tabs to keep the assemble together while burning around on the racing simulator. Also need to add a lighting channel to illuminate the dials.

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A mock gauge was produce immediately after this as I was happy that the final instrument cluster would be satisfactory. See the mock running assembly here:



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Steel & acrylic lasercuts were fabricated from the CAD data. The steel frame black needs to be simply blacked out with paint so it completely darkens the area behind the translucent gauge graphic. The transparent acrylic lasercut came out well, I just needed to use a black tint vinyl or spray tint to make the transparent acrylic a dark translucent colour that the LEDs can shine through.

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The next step was to investigate different tiniting options so I could get a nice clean looking gauge fascia that would look like the the original drawings and only shows the lit numbers and not the unlit white parts of the GI Max & SPI-D. Also the numbers are easier to read with the tinted cover especially in the daytime when all the surfaces of the instrument cluster are very well lit. You can see a wee bit of the white components that house the LEDs on the symprojects PCB but the effect was very convincing. Below you can see photos of the instrument panel with and without a tinted cover.

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I conducted some tests to test whether to use tint spray or tint vinyl. The visual clarity of the GI Max & SPI-D's LED through the vinyl is excellent, in fact it is slightly better than the spray tint TBH. The application results are excellent too, and superior to the spray tint by several measures of low time, low effort & high visual quality. In the photo below you can see that there are a lot of particle on the spray tint, and the spray density is much heavier around the edges. I think lots of light coats in a completely dust free environment can solve this problem, however it is much easier and faster to produce an evenly coloured layer of colour on the transparent acrylic sheet if you use vinyl in an regular partially dusty environment. The application of vinyl is about 3mins (see this 3 min application video here: http://youtu.be/vGg52tzZfbU), I can do it in a very similar time; I did a work experience job in a sign writing company when I was young so I learnt how to apply wet vinyl with ease. Overall the VINYL WINS. I got my 'Jet Black' vinyl from this eBay shop

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To get the number and line graphics onto the gauge I decided to make a custom stencil because dry transfers would be too expensive and hand painted white artwork would look too messy and home made. I got my gauge graphics stencil cut with a lasercutter. Originally I wanted to use a vinyl mask for the gauge graphics. I believe that this is what professional use, it leaves no sticky residue and you get virtually no paint leakages around the edges of the letters if the mask is applied properly. But the lasercutter wouldn't cut it for me because it produces toxic fumes when cut. and the traditional vinyl knife cutter wouldn't cut the highly detailed features of the graphics normally they suggest 2mm thickness of line work, and some of my letters were 1mm thick.

The application of the masking tape stencil was a careful affair to ensure that
there were no air holes or particles trapped under the monster 200mm width masking tape I bought from tapes direct.
Once the making tape was safely applied to the transparent plastic I cut the graphics into the
masking tape with the laser. The laser was set to only cut the tape and not the acrylic. I had to spend a night intricately peeling the numbers and lines away so I could spray on the graphic with white primer. See the video of the laser-cutting here:

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The spray job with white primer worked out well. The only problems experienced were firstly, residue from the
masking tape as predicted by research colleague, and secondly, a bit of leakage that occurred when
the masking tape bubbled slightly here and there around the edges of the letter and lines. This first problem
was easily resolved, the stick residue came off easily with white spirits. The second problem with paint leakage
was resolved with a bit of gentle scalpel scraping once the residue was cleaned off and the paint had completely
hardened. Once the black vinyl was applied and the gauge assembled with the linear motors & LEDs it all looked
satisfactory. Initially the camera picked up some blotches that my eyes could just about see them in the real
world – good camera eh. From experience I suspected that when the soapy water (that was used to make a
perfectly smooth application) dries the blotches would disappear. The vinyl window frosting in my house did the
same, and indeed his was the case. After 8 hours or so the blotches disappeared. Overall I’m happy with the look the gauge and the way it works with the linear motors, needles, and LED mechanical components.

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Here is the near finished gauge just need to dye rev counter graphic red so it looks like the original design.
Just the cases to mill out now and a wee bit of lighting to illuminate the gauge graphics. See it working here in
this youTube video



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I look forward to hear your comments (negative or positive). I'll make further updates as I progress [:)]
 
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vERY NICE!
I have mde somthing like this for me cockpit,

That was in the early stage of the work!
 
I'm currently making a cockpit and thought it would be interesting to put some walk-through pic up to get
feedback from you guys.

WOW, what to say. This is a rig build that gets an A+. I just started reading about your build and had to stop an congratulate you Shaun.




vERY NICE!
I have mde somthing like this for me

wajdi, why do you have to do this in everyone's post? Perhaps start your own thread about your own cockpit and let Shaun enjoy his thread?
 
Thanks very much Left888. I really want to improve my fabrication methods. I see so much great stuff from you guys on GT Planet, that although you say it is all right I feel like I still have a lot to learn from everyone here.

I was looking at your rig and I think I'd really like to get a butt kicker soon. I like the way you have them on the pedals. Do you have a second one under the seat too?

BTW, I don't mind Wajdi post, it's nice to see other peoples builds too :)
 
Yea I have a buttkicker under the seat as well and 6 Aura bass shakers and a ton of wattage to drive them.

I have seen wajdi post his build in so many other peoples threads. It's like he trys to get exposure off the backs of everyone's build. Nothing wrong with it if he actually commented on your build, however he didn't. He only stated, (very nice) ... look at mine!!!
 
Looks amazing! A real labour of love and a lot of work. Can't wait to see it all come together, I will follow this thread
 
@left888, just stop it, stop it please.............you can't tell every one what they should and shouldn't do!
 
Now, now children - where is the love! Ain't no body gat time for sim-rage an hate Wajdi. I just looked on your rig thread Wajdi and saw that you and left888 were once friends, what happened to that? Can't we have the good old days back again :D
 
No problem, it's all good. wajdi wants everyone to see his rig. He's a proud man. I commented on his rig when he posted it. I did not feel the need to show him my rig in his thread however. 👍
 
Now that is one nice setup you got there!

I think you should go for the whole assembly that you mocked up in Alias Automotive. I think that would be ridiculously cool and it would look like a professionally made product! I wish I had the skills you do so I could make something cool like that!

BTW nice rig! It looks very nice. It seems very comfortable too! Have you got any other mods on your wheel/pedals?
 
Now, now children - where is the love! Ain't no body gat time for sim-rage an hate Wajdi. I just looked on your rig thread Wajdi and saw that you and left888 were once friends, what happened to that? Can't we have the good old days back again :D
I don't hate on left888 and I appreciate his contribution in this section, but I don't like his "Sheriff attitude" some times!
 
I don't hate on left888 and I appreciate his contribution in this section, but I don't like his "Sheriff attitude" some times!

No "Sheriff attitude" here wajdi. Just an observation on my part, that you post your rig in a lot of thread's that are not yours. Really it just boils down to common courtesy.

Not trying to be a Sheriff, but why post your rig in someone else's thread of their rig?
 
No "Sheriff attitude" here wajdi. Just an observation on my part, that you post your rig in a lot of thread's that are not yours. Really it just boils down to common courtesy.

Not trying to be a Sheriff, but why post your rig in someone else's thread of their rig?
Where did I show my cockpit in other threads? I only show him my DIY costum gauge!
 
No "Sheriff attitude" here wajdi. Just an observation on my part, that you post your rig in a lot of thread's that are not yours. Really it just boils down to common courtesy.

Not trying to be a Sheriff, but why post your rig in someone else's thread of their rig?

The pair of you's should take this up via PM 💡.
It's really detracting from the OP's excellent rig build 👍
 
Cheers for your compliments Carson79 & Gunstar.

Now that is one nice setup you got there!

I think you should go for the whole assembly that you mocked up in Alias Automotive. I think that would be ridiculously cool and it would look like a professionally made product! I wish I had the skills you do so I could make something cool like that!

BTW nice rig! It looks very nice. It seems very comfortable too! Have you got any other mods on your wheel/pedals?

Thanks for your kind comment Crispy. I'm definitely going for the whole case as seen in the Alias CAD. Just some fine tweeking to do first.

I have nixim brake mods on the pedals. I decided that they were a no brainier after seeing a 10/10 rating on insimSimRacing here:

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The paddles were custom as mentioned earlier. Apart from this, that is it so far. Here are photos of the custom components, comparison to the old one and the view of them from the seat:
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That is some awesome handywork you are doing. Big respect from here.
Something I would lilke to do too, but lacking some skills and tools I'm afraid
 
Cheers RSwagoneer :)

I spent a bit of time alias modelling by candlelight to the new Kanye West yezzus album and I think that I’m kinda happy with the final direction of the gauge covers. I’m probably remake them one more time just to iron out some of the surfacing kinks but ultimately I think I’m at the stage where I just want to start producing something in RP (Rapid Prototype) to see it eye to eye. Just three sets of technical details to go – Lighting channels, screw fixing lugs and recesses & stand fixtures – then I’m ready for some soft foam parts maybe to check aesthetics and part fitments.

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Great work on the rig so far, love the extended paddles!

Regarding the rev clocks the needles seem a little laggy when listening to the revs from the car, the revs build and then a second or so later the needle moves and throttle blips don't show very well. Is that a limitation of the rev burner boards?

Regarding the Nixim, its a big upgrade from stock. I went from stock to a Nixim to an AP electrix load cell and that is even better but the waiting time for those is horrendous (6 months or more). I have one of the new air/hydraulic brake mods on its way from Total Spanish Simulator (managed to get in on the first preorder) so I will post up a review of that when it arrives.

Again great work on the rig and enclosure, I reckon you could even sell a few of those if they work out cost effective to produce.
 
Yeah I'd say people would bite your arm off for those gauge's. But I would imagine theirs so much work involved it would make them very expensive.
I can't wait to see them finished!
 
This is really rad! Great job making up those gauges and designing the case. Looking foreward to seeing the complete product.
 
The rev clocks used to be razor sharp but I have updated the simdash software a couple of times recently Ravey1981 so I presume that I need to recalibrate them. I have never calibrated them properly too; working out the steps with a calculator. I have always done them by eye so. I presume that it would be more accurate if I did that. I'm happy with them though they are good enough for me.

Cheers Rallywagon & Carson79. I've been working a bit more on my model to pull it up to a working prototype level that efficiently uses the CNN machining facilities that I want to use. Every bit of time a material costs cash :/ So I started to look at the production process of the instrumental cluster. It was un-necessarily complex as an assembly so I decided to make some changes to simplify the production process of the display instruments.

SIMPLIFY..! :D

Main changes were to combine the old steel subframe, GI-Max & SPI-D spacers with the subframe cover. I also combined the rear cover with the spacers for the Revburners as can be seen in picture below.

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Now I'm just waiting for a USB hub to arrive to see how it can be incorporated into that assembly then it is done. Apart from the desk stand. I also added lighting channels that reflection light from the LEDs embedded into the new 'main component frame' (named as such because everything hangs off it in the new design). Needs a bit more work and time tweeting the renderings. The pictures below show some updated rough renderings that reflect the new changes.

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Next step is to prepare the parts for CNN milling... and to solve any problems that occur.
 
Alias automotive for the Class-A 3D modelling of the design and a friend's computer that had Keyshot for the visual rendering.
 
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great work indeed. curious though, where are you going to go to get this rendering turned into a physical piece?
 
Cheers Latte :)

Rallywagon, I'll take the prepared part [pictured below] to a machining house. This prototype piece will go to my uni probably because it is for my Phd project.

To give more detail, my covers will be some subtractively milled, I'm using subtractive milling instead of 3D printing because it is much cheaper to produce. The only cost I have for this if it is part of my PhD project is materials. I love the old milling machine, I like to use it in prototyping because you have to use similar design principles to that of injection moulding such as the use of draft angles, uni-lateral draw (i.e. the moulds come together and come apart in one direction only, so you can't design undercuts... unless your really craft about it). The advantage of doing this is that if you like a design and you want to take it further to high volume it is pre-designed for injection moulding; hence minimal changes need to me made to the CAD models to mass produce your design.

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This is a quick 15 second video of this process from another project to help elaborate:



There are Rapid prototype all over the place nowadays, they are quickly replacing traditional engineering workshops.
 
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