my first drift video

[divine_monk]

drifting is different, but it is harder to pick up on because of its difficulty. there are more things to take into consideration when you are drifting, thus more skill is needed to drift. besides that, you are right about exhibition being different than speed drifting. the way i think is that speed drifting is the next step after exhibition. when you are born, you do not begin to run. you start off by crawling, then walking. this is the period when you learn the basics and limits at a slow speed. when you start running, you continue to use the basics, but the speed is increased.

 

[Swift]

drifting is different, but it is harder to pick up on because of its difficulty. there are more things to take into consideration when you are drifting, thus more skill is needed to drift. besides that, you are right about exhibition being different than speed drifting. the way i think is that speed drifting is the next step after exhibition. when you are born, you do not begin to run. you start off by crawling, then walking. this is the period when you learn the basics and limits at a slow speed. when you start running, you continue to use the basics, but the speed is increased.

Well, I have to say that I completely disagree. What you're saying doesn't make sense.

Drifting well and being a good grip driver take EQUAL skill. Period. It's simply not a fair statement to say that drift drivers have more skill then grip. I'm sure that formula 1 drivers aren't as skilled as DGP1. And we all know that's not true.

There are not more things to take into consideration when drifting then when grip driving. You're simply controlling the car in a different fashion. You have to worry about the same things. Weight, traction, steering etc.

I can understand where you would get the idea of speed drifting being more advanced, but it's simply not true.

 

[Omnis]

grip driving is a lot more cut throat than drifting....i guess you could say. F1 cars go SOOOOO fast...to make even a slight error could lead to injury.

with drifting however, you aren't going fast enough to kill yourself. if anything, you drift will just suck if you understeer, but you could have to same results as an f1 accident if you oversteer into a wall going real fast.

i dont think its fair to compare the two in the same aspect. they are two completely different things that take into comparison factors that are pretty much innaplicable to each other or the other side.

thats just my opinion, i suppose.

 

[Swift]

i dont think its fair to compare the two in the same aspect. they are two completely different things that take into comparison factors that are pretty much innaplicable to each other or the other side.

thats just my opinion, i suppose.

Exactly

 

[TwinTurboJay]

to quote a very wise actor from the 80's...." either Karate yes or Karate no, karate maybe....get squashed like grape ! "

 

[divine_monk]

how long did it take you to learn how to grip? how long did it take you to drift?

 

[Delphic Reason]

Well, I have to say that I completely disagree. What you're saying doesn't make sense.

Drifting well and being a good grip driver take EQUAL skill. Period. It's simply not a fair statement to say that drift drivers have more skill then grip. I'm sure that formula 1 drivers aren't as skilled as DGP1. And we all know that's not true.

There are not more things to take into consideration when drifting then when grip driving. You're simply controlling the car in a different fashion. You have to worry about the same things. Weight, traction, steering etc.

I can understand where you would get the idea of speed drifting being more advanced, but it's simply not true.

I completely agree...

 

[Stanley^Carter]

how long did it take you to learn how to grip? how long did it take you to drift?

well, simply because this is just a game....
but yes, grip does seems easier, but its different when you WANT TO GO FAST, it takes as much skill as drifting (maybe more..), many factors would come into consideration, just as Swift mentioned in his previous posts

 

[Swift]

well, simply because this is just a game....
but yes, grip does seems easier, but its different when you WANT TO GO FAST, it takes as much skill as drifting (maybe more..), many factors would come into consideration, just as Swift mentioned in his previous posts

There you go.

Divine monk. Go to GT3times.com and check the times on your best track. Then see how "good" you are at drifting. I'm not saying I'm really good at grip driving, cause I'm not. But to truly be a fast grip driver isn't easy.

Anyway, thanx for the backup SD and Stanley.

 

[nk4e]

to quote a very wise actor from the 80's...." either Karate yes or Karate no, karate maybe....get squashed like grape ! "

ain't that from the karate kid, anyways this post is off topic

stanley about ur post that is prob above mine , in grip racing u have times where u brake right? but in drifting u go throught the corner faster but lose the accel advantage at the end of the corner

 

[ForcedInduction]

ain't that from the karate kid, anyways this post is off topic

stanley about ur post that is prob above mine , in grip racing u have times where u brake right? but in drifting u go throught the corner faster but lose the accel advantage at the end of the corner

drifting takes you through the corner faster ONLY on very tight corners i.e. hairpins. other than that, there are no corners in which a drift line is faster than a grip's. 👍

 

[nk4e]

drifting takes you through the corner faster ONLY on very tight corners i.e. hairpins. other than that, there are no corners in which a drift line is faster than a grip's. 👍

i know ^^ 👍

 

[layzeeboi]

drifting takes you through the corner faster ONLY on very tight corners i.e. hairpins. other than that, there are no corners in which a drift line is faster than a grip's. 👍

i would comment on that.. but i dont wanna start the whole grip vs drift war.. lol

 

[divine_monk]

grip: gas, brake, steer into a corner, let go of the gas if you are going fast, gas if you are going too slow, weight transfer. you worry about speed in and out of a turn, best line possible.
drift: gas, brake, steer into a corner, countersteer, let go of the gas if you are going fast, gas if you are going too slow, weight transfer. you worry about speed in and out of a turn, best line possible, countersteering, angle.

 

[Swift]

grip: gas, brake, steer into a corner, let go of the gas if you are going fast, gas if you are going too slow, weight transfer. you worry about speed in and out of a turn, best line possible.
drift: gas, brake, steer into a corner, countersteer, let go of the gas if you are going fast, gas if you are going too slow, weight transfer. you worry about speed in and out of a turn, best line possible, countersteering, angle.

Yes, and...?

 

[divine_monk]

there are more things to take into consideration when you are drifting, thus more skill is needed to drift.

i'm pretty sure i left out some factors, but that's all i can think of. please add on to the list as you see fit. haha. i wonder if this debate will end.

 

[Delphic Reason]

i would comment on that.. but i dont wanna start the whole grip vs drift war.. lol

I hear that...

It's an old drawn out discussion thaty usually always comes to the same conclussion... but I won't get into that...

Divine Monk... I understand what you are getting at... Initially, drifting seems harder to learn than grip... Initially, grip racing is more intuitive because it is what we have been watching/doing since before some of us could even drive... Because of this drifting seems alien... However, once you surpass the initial stages of drift or grip you will find that they take equal skill/knowledge/practive to be relatively succesful... There is a huge amount going on durring a grip race, but because the techniques seem to be more subtle, to the eye of the bystander, most of it doesn't register... It's much easier to see the techniques in action at a drift event, mostly because they are so exagerated, in comparison to grip...